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Gspurs11

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Plus you then get:


The vaccination hasn't been tested enough. Except on 167 poor, innocent, mice and monkeys. Why the fuck they have been test subjects is TOTALLY beyond my comprehension.

With minimal human test subjects.

Carry on trusting who you like dude - makes no difference to me. Just be savvy enough to do your research first.

That is just completely false and you’re spreading fake news from unverified sources. The Covid-19 vaccinations had some of the largest samples sizes for clinical trials, with Pfizer testing 41,000 people in their randomised controlled trial, Moderna 30,000 and AZ 25,000.

 

Dean

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I took three casuals on over the Summer and I'll be keeping two on at the end of it. 2 have been double jabbed one like you is refusing to. Guess which one I'll be getting rid of come September? I'll give you a clue, my priority is protecting all my other staff, and to keep absence to a minimum. It'll be bye bye to the guy that thinks it's a government made conspiracy and that's a fact.

Um, discrimination?

but, as I said, my reasons for not having the jab differ. I've lost a lot during covid - my dad who's treatment was stopped - wrongly - my wife took redundancy, I've developed MS.

Am I going to change my personal, moral stance because of that stuff? No. I'm going to suck it up and deal with it as the realisation that sucky things happen in life.

And if I can't do nice things because of it, then my choice.

And if I get covid and die, them so be it.
 

0v3rl0r9

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Um, discrimination?

but, as I said, my reasons for not having the jab differ. I've lost a lot during covid - my dad who's treatment was stopped - wrongly - my wife took redundancy, I've developed MS.

Am I going to change my personal, moral stance because of that stuff? No. I'm going to suck it up and deal with it as the realisation that sucky things happen in life.

And if I can't do nice things because of it, then my choice.

And if I get covid and die, them so be it.

And that's fine, no one is objecting to your personal choice to not be jabbed - but don't start spouting lies, bullshit web articles and shit like this because it doesn't match up with what you believe.

Lol, why the rating @chaching?

Do the research!

Or carry on with your head in the sand.

Makes no difference to me either way.
 

Trix

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Discrimination? Absolutely spot on.

Could you ever prove it not a chance.

Am I concerned I'm discriminating against somebody I consider isn't concerned about the wellbeing of those around them. Not remotely.
 

Dean

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Discrimination? Absolutely spot on.

Could you ever prove it not a chance.

Am I concerned I'm discriminating against somebody I consider isn't concerned about the wellbeing of those around them. Not remotely.
Lol, what a load of shit.

Anyways, I'm going to stick to the strictly football threads from now on.

And, I'll be sure to wear my lepper sign every time I go out in public now.

Keep the general population happy, right?
 
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kaz Hirai

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I took three casuals on over the Summer and I'll be keeping two on at the end of it. 2 have been double jabbed one like you is refusing to. Guess which one I'll be getting rid of come September? I'll give you a clue, my priority is protecting all my other staff, and to keep absence to a minimum. It'll be bye bye to the guy that thinks it's a government made conspiracy and that's a fact.

Literally just proved my point on pure discrimination based on someone's medical history, which should be confidential anyway

And it's applauded, what a society ?
 

Tiberius Gracchus

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I was advised by a doctor that due to the risk of anaphylactic shock I should probably not get the vaccine, but that ultimately it's a question for me of risk (risks either way). Based on that, I decided not to.

But I'm terrified of the newer, more virulent strains, and am also worried about the impact of long-covid.

The risks identified in the early days don't seem to have transpired (we do understand more, now millions of people have been vaccinated). I've therefore decided, belatedly, to get the vaccine (first one is next week).

But this does feel to me like the next big medical scandal and I'm also terrified of the unknown impacts this could have 30 years down the line
 

Trix

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Lol, what a load of shit.
Might be to you. Won't change the fact I and many other employers will be doing just that. Does it bother me you don't like it? Not one bit, I'd never have employed the guy in the first place had I known his feelings on refusing to be immunized.
 

davidmatzdorf

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Discrimination? Absolutely spot on.

Could you ever prove it not a chance.

Am I concerned I'm discriminating against somebody I consider isn't concerned about the wellbeing of those around them. Not remotely.
It doesn't matter if anyone could prove it. It's not an illegal form of discrimination. It's acceptable business practice. You get to choose whom to make redundant, as long as you are not discriminating against a disadvantaged group that is protected by law.
 

Trix

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Literally just proved my point on pure discrimination based on someone's medical history, which should be confidential anyway

And it's applauded, what a society ?
It was confidential. Had he not gone round the workshop telling everyone I would have been none the wiser. It's not a question asked at the interview or on his application.
 

Dean

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It doesn't matter if anyone could prove it. It's not an illegal form of discrimination. It's acceptable business practice. You get to choose whom to make redundant, as long as you are not discriminating against a disadvantaged group that is protected by law.
But in the flipside, it's not illegal to not have the jab.
 

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It does have to do with science, but maybe with it's uglier side. I mean, we're pretty much being treated as guinea pigs.

I'm scheduled to take the vaccine this Friday, but I'm still not sure if I will go with it or not. I'm in my early 30s and practice tennis several hours a day (and condition myself accordingly), so maybe to me it would make more sense to risk being infected with covid-19 one day, than to take a vaccine that's still in its experimental phase (for long term risks), and for which shorter term risks have already been demonstrated.

As someone in their early 30s who caught COVID 2 months ago and still can't really exercise properly, I reckon you may want to rethink this if playing tennis is so important to you
 

Humbolt

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Lol, what a load of shit.

Anyways, I'm going to stick to the strictly football threads from now on.

And, I'll be sure to where my lepper sign every time I go out I'm public now.

Keep the general population happy, right?

Or... perhaps... maybe... you could just listen to the ACTUAL experts instead of the conspiracy nonsense and take your medicine

But in the flipside, it's not illegal to not have the jab.

It's also not illegal to stand in the fast lane of the M25, but it doesn't make it an advisable course of action.
 

Trix

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It doesn't matter if anyone could prove it. It's not an illegal form of discrimination. It's acceptable business practice. You get to choose whom to make redundant, as long as you are not discriminating against a disadvantaged group that is protected by law.
Thanks mate. Wouldn't matter anyway. I took all three on on three month temporary contracts. I have enough work to keep two. The third has just made it an incredibly easy decision which two I keep.
 

kaz Hirai

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It was confidential. Had he not gone round the workshop telling everyone I would have been none the wiser. It's not a question asked at the interview or on his application.

That doesn't alter the fact that you're treating some one as lesser because he/she choose for whatever reason not to take a Pharmaceutical drug

Surely you can see the inherent danger this path leads down
 

Dean

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Or... perhaps... maybe... you could just listen to the ACTUAL experts instead of the conspiracy nonsense and take your medicine



It's also not illegal to stand in the fast lane of the M25, but it doesn't make it an advisable course of action.
As I've said anti-governmental conspiracies or agendas are not my reasons for refusing.

My reasons are moral and in line with my life choices. All I'm gonna say.
 

Tonio

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For the people not wanting this vaccine can I just ask what your view is on other vaccines such as flu jab etc? Im assuming you haven't had any of these too for the same reasons?
 

Dean

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For the people not wanting this vaccine can I just ask what your view is on other vaccines such as flu jab etc? Im assuming you haven't had any of these too for the same reasons?
Yep, refused. Refused MS treatment. Adopted a more holistic approach.
 
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