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Daniel Levy teases exciting things still to come at Tottenham that are not yet in public domain

Neon_Knight_

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I think we overlook certain things as our focus is on football. By expanding "Tottenham Hotspur PLC" with properties etc, we not only have an opportunity to gain from any profit or income they generate, but also the size of the organisation that our club is a part of.

The football side of running a football club is now just one department of many and for the club to be able to succeed it needs to be a big presence on and off the pitch. Being part of the catering and hospitality side of things probably gives ENIC access to waaay more shoulders to rub up against than most other sectors, and it does rather compliment the football side of things, potentially able to offer premium match day'hotel stay packages etc.

I dunno, this sort of thing goes over my head, but we have to consider the bigger picture with this sort of project, and be confident that Levy won't jeopardise the club spunking cash on frivolous things, he's really, really not that sort of chap and we all know it.
The long overdue stadium naming rights deal would surpass the profits of any new infrastructure projects. If he gets that deal wrapped up, maybe then people will be less critical of other things being worked on in the background.
 

Rocksuperstar

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The long overdue stadium naming rights deal would surpass the profits of any new infrastructure projects. If he gets that deal wrapped up, maybe then people will be less critical of other things being worked on in the background.

Yeah, agreed, that shit's been dragging on for a long while - whatever he's got on the hook, it best be huge and not just a pair of old boots with a crab in them.
 

Dakes

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I, for one, am looking forward to firing up SkyScraper City again, this time to follow the hotel build. Life's too stressful to be worrying about squad building and football tactics.

Harry Crane for the win!
 

aliyid

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Can’t wait for the exciting announcement we thinking Cheese Room, Skywalk+ or time limited voucher for 5% off boots (t&c’s apply must be below 5ft tall, purchase in store on a non-match day)
 

newbie

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Levy is like Rishi Sunak. This is like the last days of the Conservative Party.

I can’t see any connection, Strange comment!

Levy’s made mistakes and yes I’m annoyed at him and the shit football, but his also achieved miracles, I can’t help but wonder if it was not for financial doping we would be having the same conversation?

Take oil money out and how would everything look? Would levy look a genius instead?
 

FloridaSpur

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I'm not sure a hotel and housing will generate money to be spent on the squad.
It's good that they're investing in the area because it needs it, it's a shithole but let's not pretend that's going towards new players.

There may be other things in the pipeline that will, the things that aren't yet public, so that's where positivity lies for me.

Any income that reduces club debt frees up money to be spent on other areas. Not unlike the NFL, concerts and other club non football activities.
 

FloridaSpur

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The long overdue stadium naming rights deal would surpass the profits of any new infrastructure projects. If he gets that deal wrapped up, maybe then people will be less critical of other things being worked on in the background.

It's only overdue in as much as the club value the naming rights at a figure that no company (or company Levy deems to be ethical) has so far met.

The American he has put in charge to seek such a deal is working to meet this figure, and likely a long term deal in the hundred of millions one would think.

LAFC for example has just secured a $100 million naming rights from BMO, a huge figure for a relatively new club, Levy one would think would be looking for double that.
 

Albertbarich

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Surely building a hotel ( who the fuck wants to stay in Tottenham?!) and houses only increases the debt and pushes the further income even further down the line?

Enough is enough, concentrate on the team at last, 22 years and still were talking about carrots that have nothing to do with football. When I was a kid and I saw Hoddle, Waddle and Gazza I didn't expect to spend my whole adult life waiting for a trophy because the owners needed to build more property to compete.

They have their entertainment complex and we still can't - so it gets to the point where you think this is one big excuse to gentrify a run down part of London at huge profit to just sell it all on as they string thousands of people along with the pretense that it's for the club.

But what does it matter. People try and make a difference and get mocked for it. I saw countless well known Spurs accounts mocking the lack of walkout on the twenty second minute on Sunday or the folks who dared try to protest so clearly there is no real appetite to change.
 

FloridaSpur

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For me, Levy’s a business man, not a football man, how long does a hotel need to be in operation for it to make enough money to effect transfers at our level?
It's not just about the hotel is it?

Collectively all revenue streams will add up to more being spent to increase the quality of the squad?

What additional revenue streams did we have before the new stadium?

We now have a sixty two thousand seater stadium, an NFL agreement on games, music concerts, major boxing events, and the club are generating income from the community and soon hotel industry.

Our North London rivals have a football stadium., and before some in here point to the league table, how long has Arteta had over Conte to form a vision and team?

Ask yourself this, where would we be today trying to finance payers like Romero, Porro, Richalrson and the like from the income of a thirty six thousand capacity stadium?

Our last two January transfer windows and subsequent purchase of loan players have reflected our positive approach to buy players and quality ones at that.

I have had a season ticket for almost forty years and believe me you what i am seeing being built upon to a quantum leap above and beyond anything we have ever had in the PL era.
 

McFlash

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Any income that reduces club debt frees up money to be spent on other areas. Not unlike the NFL, concerts and other club non football activities.
It's good for the brand as a whole, good for ENIC and Tottenham plc but I'll believe it benefits the football side when I see it.
Events at the stadium should benefit the club, yes but I can't see property development in the area benefiting anyone but ENIC.

As I say, it's far from a bad thing but I'm not sure it's as exciting for us fans as Levy seems to think it should be.
Let's face it, we're only really concerned with what happens on the pitch and in the transfer windows.
 

Chedozie

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It's not just about the hotel is it?

Collectively all revenue streams will add up to more being spent to increase the quality of the squad?

What additional revenue streams did we have before the new stadium?

We now have a sixty two thousand seater stadium, an NFL agreement on games, music concerts, major boxing events, and the club are generating income from the community and soon hotel industry.

Our North London rivals have a football stadium., and before some in here point to the league table, how long has Arteta had over Conte to form a vision and team?

Ask yourself this, where would we be today trying to finance payers like Romero, Porro, Richalrson and the like from the income of a thirty six thousand capacity stadium?

Our last two January transfer windows and subsequent purchase of loan players have reflected our positive approach to buy players and quality ones at that.

I have had a season ticket for almost forty years and believe me you what i am seeing being built upon to a quantum leap above and beyond anything we have ever had in the PL era.
Everything you say is true, but it’s also true that spending £200 million on the first team over the course of time it takes to build further revenue streams might result in us having a better team, maybe even winning a competition.

Enic will make plenty of profit when they sell the club, hotel or not.
 

PontusEngblom

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People need to be careful what they wish for when it comes to getting rid of Levy. Almost any owner that isn't an oil country is worse than him/ENIC ("worse" being in relation to squad investment, rather than other interpretations...).
 

McFlash

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People need to be careful what they wish for when it comes to getting rid of Levy. Almost any owner that isn't an oil country is worse than him/ENIC ("worse" being in relation to squad investment, rather than other interpretations...).
He's done great things for the club, I just wish he'd recognise the fact that he knows nothing about football matters and would restrict his input into signings and such.
Was hoping that he'd be stepping into the background when Paratici came in but he just can't seem to let go of control.
 

Dannyspur

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If we move back to Wembley and tear down the stadium, we could build loads of luxury flats on the site.
 

Spurs 1961

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I think we overlook certain things as our focus is on football. By expanding "Tottenham Hotspur PLC" with properties etc, we not only have an opportunity to gain from any profit or income they generate, but also the size of the organisation that our club is a part of.

The football side of running a football club is now just one department of many and for the club to be able to succeed it needs to be a big presence on and off the pitch. Being part of the catering and hospitality side of things probably gives ENIC access to waaay more shoulders to rub up against than most other sectors, and it does rather compliment the football side of things, potentially able to offer premium match day'hotel stay packages etc.

I dunno, this sort of thing goes over my head, but we have to consider the bigger picture with this sort of project, and be confident that Levy won't jeopardise the club spunking cash on frivolous things, he's really, really not that sort of chap and we all know it.
If we are to be a club rooted in the community then being a leader in development makes sense. If that builds a strong financial base the great. Much better than sellout to foreign multi billionaires who have not the slightest interest in the area.

I do get that many supporters have no connection with the area so don’t care who owns it or where we are located as long as we win a Rumbelows cup or two. Neither would they bother if we were called London QSI or something. But those of us who grew up in that part of London hopefully do care.
 

PontusEngblom

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He's done great things for the club, I just wish he'd recognise the fact that he knows nothing about football matters and would restrict his input into signings and such.
Was hoping that he'd be stepping into the background when Paratici came in but he just can't seem to let go of control.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think Levy is in any way perfect, but he's a hell of a lot better than the vast majority of chairmen out there. Most clubs would kill for the progress we've made over the last 20-odd years.

I think I'm just fed up of fans, most of whom have practically no idea of what it takes to run a football club/complete multi-million pound transfers, thinking they know better than Levy. We run the risk of forcing him out and ending up with someone far, far worse.
 

southlondonyiddo

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The point is ENIC/Levy have absolutely No/Zero interest in Glory. They will only make sound business decisions, will never speculate to try and win something. Will never Dare to Do

That is the sad truth as loyal and passionate supporters

We could have Levy as Chairman for the next 20 years, continue to be extremely successful off the pitch with almost nothing in the trophy cabinet, with no ambition to actually win anything
 

cliff jones

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In short generating more income to spend on better players?

There's two ways to look at everything, positively or negatively?
that’s what he says, but he also recently expressed pride in spending on the pitch in the top quartile of the league

Which is something he won’t quite be able to claim given the new funds being spent elsewhere
 

Neon_Knight_

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It's only overdue in as much as the club value the naming rights at a figure that no company (or company Levy deems to be ethical) has so far met.

The American he has put in charge to seek such a deal is working to meet this figure, and likely a long term deal in the hundred of millions one would think.

LAFC for example has just secured a $100 million naming rights from BMO, a huge figure for a relatively new club, Levy one would think would be looking for double that.
What I find frustrating is that we've been playing in the stadium for almost 4 years now, with no naming rights deal. Even if we get a deal in place for the start of next season, we would have benefited from agreeing an initial "below valuation" 5-year deal (which would have ended next year) and then working in a more lucrative 10+ year deal to follow it.
I do appreciate that delays to the stadium, Brexit, COVID-19 and the Ukraine war / energy crisis will have all made it harder for suitors to commit the huge sums were talking about here.
 
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