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JUSTINSIGNAL

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Of course I don't mean those three but we should compete with wages West Ham and Everton are prepared to pay... we use something like 48% of turnover on wages but Arsenal use 55% Liverpool 69% and Chelsea 67%.... From next season to we will also increase revenue by about £50 million a year because of increased capacity in the new stadium. We could comfortably go to 60% of revenue in my view.

Overall we pay more wages than Everton and West Ham mate - we have the 6th largest wage bill.

Next season I agree our wages should and probably will go up. This will be in line with the fact our revenues will increase.

As for increasing our wages as a percentage of our turnover. That's never gonna happen under Levy who wants to run the club debt free and sensibily.
 

JohanTheYid

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Overall we pay more wages than Everton and West Ham mate - we have the 6th largest wage bill.

Next season I agree our wages should and probably will go up. This will be in line with the fact our revenues will increase.

As for increasing our wages as a percentage of our turnover. That's never gonna happen under Levy who wants to run the club debt free and sensibily.
Exactly this. It's a myth we skimp on wages. We just pay them in accordance with our turnover. Clubs like Everton & West Ham have odd players on 100k plus. Our salaries are relatively even across the first team.
 

ebzrascal

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Overall we pay more wages than Everton and West Ham mate - we have the 6th largest wage bill.

Next season I agree our wages should and probably will go up. This will be in line with the fact our revenues will increase.

As for increasing our wages as a percentage of our turnover. That's never gonna happen under Levy who wants to run the club debt free and sensibily.

You are correct but I was referring to wages West Ham and Everton will pay top earners.

With regard to sensible spending from Levy I would argue for sensible but adventurous investment i.e. tempting contracts especially in young talent which might mean getting a Lemar or Dembele before they go to Monaco or Dortmund and quadruple in value. I know we came good on Alli and Dier and we should be doing much more of this even if we loan some out and some don't come off.
 

Gb160

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Of course I don't mean those three but we should compete with wages West Ham and Everton are prepared to pay... we use something like 48% of turnover on wages but Arsenal use 55% Liverpool 69% and Chelsea 67%.... From next season to we will also increase revenue by about £50 million a year because of increased capacity in the new stadium. We could comfortably go to 60% of revenue in my view.
I'm not sure that turnover to wages signifies much tbh, pretty sure that City and United both operate at around 50% as well.
Regardless even if it were raised to around 60% as u suggest, 20% wage rises all round isn't going to change he fact that the uber clubs can still offer double what we pay our best players.
 

allatsea

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You are correct but I was referring to wages West Ham and Everton will pay top earners.

With regard to sensible spending from Levy I would argue for sensible but adventurous investment i.e. tempting contracts especially in young talent which might mean getting a Lemar or Dembele before they go to Monaco or Dortmund and quadruple in value. I know we came good on Alli and Dier and we should be doing much more of this even if we loan some out and some don't come off.
The problem is the spammers only a one or two top players we have what 8, 9, 10, ?
 

Gb160

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The problem is the spammers only a one or two top players we have what 8, 9, 10, ?
This is it, their first choice goalkeeper last season was on £6.5kpw, whilst they had younger players earning £3.5kpw, that's why they push the boat out on one or two high earners...our lowest earners are on circa £20kpw, it's a much more level approach.
 

LexingtonSpurs

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Of course I don't mean those three but we should compete with wages West Ham and Everton are prepared to pay... we use something like 48% of turnover on wages but Arsenal use 55% Liverpool 69% and Chelsea 67%.... From next season to we will also increase revenue by about £50 million a year because of increased capacity in the new stadium. We could comfortably go to 60% of revenue in my view.
I take it maths and accounting is not your strong suit?
 

ebzrascal

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Exactly this. It's a myth we skimp on wages. We just pay them in accordance with our turnover. Clubs like Everton & West Ham have odd players on 100k plus. Our salaries are relatively even across the first team.

We pay less compared to Turnover apart from Man United
 

ebzrascal

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I'm not sure that turnover to wages signifies much tbh, pretty sure that City and United both operate at around 50% as well.
Regardless even if it were raised to around 60% as u suggest, 20% wage rises all round isn't going to change he fact that the uber clubs can still offer double what we pay our best players.
60% brings us close to Liverpool and possblly Arsenal and means players like Mane would be attainable for us
 

Gb160

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60% brings us close to Liverpool and possblly Arsenal and means players like Mane would be attainable for us
No they wouldn't...60% of our revenue isn't the same as 60% of Arsenal and Liverpools revenue mate,
 

Spurger King

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You guys do realise that as soon as we're able to pay higher wages, the richer clubs will just go higher until we're unable to compete again.
 

ebzrascal

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No it wouldn't...60% of our revenue isn't the same as 60% of Arsenal and Liverpools revenue mate,

Agreed but it brings us closer.. then once the new stadium is in place and related commercials like naming rights are agreed our revenue should get close to Liverpool currently £100m a year more rev. If we are then successful on the pitch we could eventually catch Arsenal approx £150m a year more rev..
 

BringBack_leGin

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It's so reassuring that we have so many accomplished financial controllers, finance directors and fp&a experts amongst out fan base when we have such a numpty, with no grasp of business finance or economics, running our club...
 

Gb160

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You guys do realise that as soon as we're able to pay higher wages, the richer clubs will just go higher until we're unable to compete again.
Exactly the point I made a few posts back, but this site is like the Dianne Abbot school of economics sometimes.
 

PrettyColors

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You guys do realise that as soon as we're able to pay higher wages, the richer clubs will just go higher until we're unable to compete again.
Can't help but compare the situation to Marx's eventual theory of one corporation owning everything - i.e. as time goes on, the rich will get richer and open up the divide on smaller clubs.
 

fletch82

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You guys do realise that as soon as we're able to pay higher wages, the richer clubs will just go higher until we're unable to compete again.

Yep
It's already happening :(
A little while back it was 100k a week then shiteh and manure started with the 150s now they are doing 200s
If other prem clubs start doing 150s 200s they will just start paying 250k to 300k :mad:
No point trying to compete it's time the not financially doped club s start screaming for wage caps across the whole of football worldwide and it can not be based on club revenue
 
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