Dawson is awesome.

[dimiSpur]

It is in the concept of the sending off it's my opinion Verts made a wrong choice, even if you want to portion some blame onto Dawson, i feel Verts got it wrong.

Yea but that's irrelevant given the thread is called Dawson is awesome. Had Jan not brought him down we may have been talking about how Dawson's miscontrol led to a 3rd Basel goal.

 

[Damian99]

Yea but that's irrelevant given the thread is called Dawson is awesome. Had Jan not brought him down we may have been talking about how Dawson's miscontrol led to a 3rd Basel goal.

Stop right there, Verts did not need to bring him down because thats the only option he had left open to him by Dawson, for want of repeating myself VERTS GOT IT WRONG. Aside of that fact there is no way Kyle Walker would not have been able to get himself into a position to defend that situation as it was still some way out and that guy wasn't the quickest over the grass.

 

[lillywhites61]

For what he lacks in his general play he makes up for in heart, desire and live for Spurs, I am sure he will want to see out his career with Tottenham as he seems to be so proud of the club the same as we are, he has his faults but we should be very happy to have a player like him in our squad.

Oh and for all those blaming him for JV being sent off? Seriously? Dawson made an error of judgement, that is all, JV made a ridiculous challenge that he really didn't need to make! He could have tried to stay in front of him as other players were close to the situation as well. Don't get me wrong I love JV but he fucked up yesterday, it seems he can never do wrong?

 

[dimiSpur]

Stop right there, Verts did not need to bring him down because thats the only option he had left open to him by Dawson, for want of repeating myself VERTS GOT IT WRONG. Aside of that fact there is no way Kyle Walker would not have been able to get himself into a position to defend that situation as it was still some way out and that guy wasn't the quickest over the grass.

I can't argue with you any further, I followed your instructions and stopped reading there.

 

[dimiSpur]

For what he lacks in his general play he makes up for in heart, desire and live for Spurs, I am sure he will want to see out his career with Tottenham as he seems to be so proud of the club the same as we are, he has his faults but we should be very happy to have a player like him in our squad.

Oh and for all those blaming him for JV being sent off? Seriously? Dawson made an error of judgement, that is all, JV made a ridiculous challenge that he really didn't need to make! He could have tried to stay in front of him as other players were close to the situation as well. Don't get me wrong I love JV but he fucked up yesterday, it seems he can never do wrong?

That would also qualify as an error in judgement mate.

 

[Damian99]

For what he lacks in his general play he makes up for in heart, desire and live for Spurs, I am sure he will want to see out his career with Tottenham as he seems to be so proud of the club the same as we are, he has his faults but we should be very happy to have a player like him in our squad.

Oh and for all those blaming him for JV being sent off? Seriously? Dawson made an error of judgement, that is all, JV made a ridiculous challenge that he really didn't need to make! He could have tried to stay in front of him as other players were close to the situation as well. Don't get me wrong I love JV but he fucked up yesterday, it seems he can never do wrong?

Totally agree. Dawson makes an error and he's "thick" "clumsy" "slow" "no anticipation" blah blah. Certain other players make a mistake and if you criticize them in anyway for it, well it can't be their fault someone else must to blame for the decision that person then made.

Dawson miss controlled a football, lots of professional footballers do from time to time, but that did not then mean he was responsible for Verts making a poor error of judgement in bringing the man down, it was NOT like he was left with no option.

 

[EastLondonYid]

So many going OTT as usual about how good or bad a player is, we often seem to love/ hate players based on their last performance, Dawson has always had a massive heart, always been so likeable, always gives 110% , and sometimes has really good games, but often, if we are honest he does come short, especially against the top players...lets see against Aguero next week, if we still think he is awesome...don't get me wrong,i am glad we kept him as i think he has done well, but if..if we are serious about moving to the next level, that imo means no Dawson as a first team regular, i see him as a squad player who can play against certain forwards and certain types of games, but he certainly isn't awesome imo...though i wish he was.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Dawson is a fucking hero.

 

[lillywhites61]

That would also qualify as an error in judgement mate.

Yeh agreed, but I saw quite a few errors I. Judgements made in the same game, one by Dembele with a stupid back pass, another Benni which Daws cut out, Walker lost the ball dilli dallying around on a few occasions in dangerous areas. All of these could have resulted in goals. Or chances or stretched a fellow team mate. It's football, no one is perfect, JV isn't perfect but he isn't really getti g critised? Not saying your one of them, just saying

 

[wearetheparklane]

Have to say I was one of his biggest critics over the last 3 years or so and insisted he was purely a squad player who should be dropped for one of either Verts, Kaboul, Caulker or Gallas. However he has well and truly won me over and that sliding block in the second half of extra time last night was one of the best challenges I have ever seen (to go with the many outstanding examples of this he has shown over the season).

 

[dimiSpur]

Yeh agreed, but I saw quite a few errors I. Judgements made in the same game, one by Dembele with a stupid back pass, another Benni which Daws cut out, Walker lost the ball dilli dallying around on a few occasions in dangerous areas. All of these could have resulted in goals. Or chances or stretched a fellow team mate. It's football, no one is perfect, JV isn't perfect but he isn't really getti g critised? Not saying your one of them, just saying

I agree, which is why I wouldn't proclaim the awesomness of any of our players last night.

The only thing that impressed me last night was the 4-3-3 system. That and Friedel's penatly saving technique.

 

[dimiSpur]

Have to say I was one of his biggest critics over the last 3 years or so and insisted he was purely a squad player who should be dropped for one of either Verts, Kaboul, Caulker or Gallas. However he has well and truly won me over and that sliding block in the second half of extra time last night was one of the best challenges I have ever seen (to go with the many outstanding examples of this he has shown over the season).

Alexandre Frei took about 20 minutes to shoot there. It was a great challenge, but one he ought to have made after losing his man in the first place.

 

[wearetheparklane]

Alexandre Frei took about 20 minutes to shoot there. It was a great challenge, but one he ought to have made after losing his man in the first place.

Agreed. However Frei's delay almost made it harder for Dawson to know whether he was going to shoot or cross. As it happens Dawson used great judgement (imo) to time it to perfection, all the more impressive considering the delay and therefore unpredictability of the actual shot/cross.

 

[wearetheparklane]

I agree, which is why I wouldn't proclaim the awesomness of any of our players last night.

The only thing that impressed me last night was the 4-3-3 system. That and Friedel's penatly saving technique.

 

[Damian99]

Agreed. However Frei's delay almost made it harder for Dawson to know whether he was going to shoot or cross. As it happens Dawson used great judgement (imo) to time it to perfection, all the more impressive considering the delay and therefore unpredictability of the actual shot/cross.

He made a good block in the first half after Walker made a mess, it would have been a very very good goal scoring opportunity when the score was 1-1, but no doubt it was the strikers fault or the ball was to round or anything really except good play and reading of a situation by Dawson

 

[EastLondonYid]

I agree, which is why I wouldn't proclaim the awesomness of any of our players last night.

The only thing that impressed me last night was the 4-3-3 system. That and Friedel's penatly saving technique.

When Huddlestone stepped up first, i was hoping he was going in goal....he's huge fucking barnet would have surely saved one more than Brad.,

But seriously you couldn't make it up, we put a player who hasn't had a haircut for donkeys as he cant hit a barn door, to take our first pen....anyway, i wasn't really too gutted as i've lost the will to live, and put on years watching us in this competition..enough ffs.

 

[SpursOldBoy]

Aside of that fact there is no way Kyle Walker would not have been able to get himself into a position to defend that situation as it was still some way out and that guy wasn't the quickest over the grass.

I totally agree with this, I thought Walker was running back parallel to their striker and would have got to him before he got into a scoring position.

Yes, Dawson has his faults, but as others have said I'd rather have his commitment and passion for the club than a waster like Ade. I hope he stays too, he's a good squad player who will always give 100%.

 

[wearetheparklane]

He made a good block in the first half after Walker made a mess, it would have been a very very good goal scoring opportunity when the score was 1-1, but no doubt it was the strikers fault or the ball was to round or anything really except good play and reading of a situation by Dawson

Sorry, have to diasagree. If Dawson doesn't make that block in ET then it's a goal and we are out already, before the penalties (in hindsight probably the better option ).

 

[Damian99]

When Huddlestone stepped up first, i was hoping he was going in goal....he's huge fucking barnet would have surely saved one more than Brad.,

But seriously you couldn't make it up, we put a player who hasn't had a haircut for donkeys as he cant hit a barn door, to take our first pen....anyway, i wasn't really too gutted as i've lost the will to live, and put on years watching us in this competition..enough ffs.

To be fair when it comes to penalties, it comes down to players big enough and brave enough to want to take one of the first five, the others are probably shitting themselves and hope it's all over in the first five attempts. Give Hudd some credit, it wasn't the worst penalty and he had the balls to take one and step up first.

 

[dimiSpur]

When Huddlestone stepped up first, i was hoping he was going in goal....he's huge fucking barnet would have surely saved one more than Brad.,

But seriously you couldn't make it up, we put a player who hasn't had a haircut for donkeys as he cant hit a barn door, to take our first pen....anyway, i wasn't really too gutted as i've lost the will to live, and put on years watching us in this competition..enough ffs.

The stupid thing was I was sitting there thinking "what the fuck am I hoping for?" when Jan got sent off. We were never going to score in extra time and the thought of Friedel saving pens was actually making me laugh out loud. Yet watching the shootout still sent me into a rage filled reaction. I knew we wouldn't win, but why did the players think so too? You could see from the body language they had no belief, no belief that they could score from 12 yards.