Deadwood - Is it really going to be that hard to shift?

[RichSpur58]

IMO any decent scout would see that he'd rip it up in those countries (maybe less so Italy actually). He's a proven international striker with a good EPL record. For £7-8m he'd be an excellent buy for a mid-table Bundesliga side.

Agree with that

 

[muffwah]

keane will be easier to shift then Bentley. Birmingham haven't got a pot to piss in and I'm sure QPR/Sunderland/Wolves would take Keane for 6-7m

You seem to be forgetting that Bentley is a better player who isn't 2 years past his sell by date, and his wages are lower.

 

[StartingPrice]

I don't think they will all go. I don't think any of them are worth keeping either. My point was that we can drop our fees for players and still recoup a large sum of money as we have a large number of players who aren't going to push us on (i forgot the likes of Hutton too). I think we will ship Keane and at least one other striker (looking like Defoe at the moment) and then it will depend on how we do at pulling in new strikers. It is always difficult to tell with Spurs who we are really interested in as we are linked with everyone but i can see us bring in 2 established strikers and possibly a youngster - maybe from our South American contacts. That would leave us with enough to sell on at least 3. As for last time it is different, we sold a stikeforce that scored all our goals and replaced them with nothing - this time we are talking about a stkike force who only score in brothels!

:up:
My feeling is that replacing all of our strikers in one TW is a serious risk. Two experienced strikers and one young talent (who can all play with VDV, but one another also) is the logical step for our squad to progress. The problem is that I don't want that to be at the expense keeping some continuity at least for a year (or even until next Jan), at the same time, however, can we really have VDV and4 strikers:shrug: I don't think we can.

Whichever way the management goes with it, I hope it works (obviously):grin:

That's because last time we sold Keane and Berbatov, who between them scored 91 goals in two seasons, and replaced them with Frazier Campbell and Roman Pavlyuchenko. :lol:

Eek
I was thinking before then, however, more like Postiga/Zamora territory.

 

[stemark44]

It will be easy to shift the 'deadwood' if all we ask is 1-2m for each player. But Levy is never going to do that.

As for Pav having options in Germany, Italy and France Dan? He's never had them before, he's not getting any younger. And he's shit. He might have options, but not for anywhere near the money that Levy will want.

Agreed Giovani should be no problem, he hardly cost us much either, someone will snap him up.

I honestly cant see us getting more than a million for Keane, problem with him is wages.

I honestly don't think he is any worse than Edin Dzeko based on his pereformances this year and I would be really surprised if we don't get near the £12 million mark.
Pav would do a good job in Germany.

 

[Maske2g]

I really have to laugh at these valuations sometimes.

If I was a chairman, and my manager asked me for 4-5 million to sign a forward who is pushing 31 and hasn't done a think in the premier league for 3 years, I would give him a written warning.

Equally, Bentley couldn't cut the mustard at Birmingham, why is he worth 7 million?
Is it because we stupidly paid 17 million for him? Where is the relevance? Lentini cost 13 million once, now he probably has a walking stick.

Palacios has been mainly poor for 18 months- 2 years. who would pay 9 million for a player who's confidence seems shattered?

Wake up. 95% of teams below us, who will be aiming to sign these sorts of players, simply don't have the cash to splash out such money on players like this.

 

[Maske2g]

I honestly don't think he is any worse than Edin Dzeko based on his pereformances this year and I would be really surprised if we don't get near the £12 million mark.
Pav would do a good job in Germany.

I've seen Dzecko tear apart Bayern Munich on many occasions. Not a great side this year, but he's been doing it for years, and they tore Man U a new one last season. He can score any type of goal. He hasn't settled into a new team yet, or into not being the big dog anymore, being on the bench and stuff. I have no doubts that he will have an impact next season.

 

[EastLondonYid]

Lets not get all stupid and want major wholesale changes,even to our strikers,we are not going to get rid of all of them, do you really think that 3/4 top strikers would join us with no CL football and having to fight for their place with other new top stikers?
I think we should just get 2 real quality strikers in ,one who would be first choice with vdv,and a younger patient striker or alternatively a top older striker who would also acknowledge he won't play every week.(not too old mind) but ones who actually score FFS.
We need to have a permanent strike force pairing next season, one that would play most games, providing they gel and hit it off.

That would mean we could sell keane,pav and even JD,though i would keep jd if he was willing to warm the bench,unlikely,Crouch is a player i would keep, but use as mainly as a sub, we must be realistic that 4 new good strikers won't join, and it would be a huge risk thinking that if they did, that they would all settle and be a success.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

IMO any decent scout would see that he'd rip it up in those countries (maybe less so Italy actually). He's a proven international striker with a good EPL record. For £7-8m he'd be an excellent buy for a mid-table Bundesliga side.

He's scored 1 goal in 18 months in Internationals and he does not have a good EPL record, he just has a better one than our other strikers. But you cant polish a turd.

He's never ripped it up anywhere in his life.

£5m and I'd snap someone's hand off.

 

[striebs]

I get the impression Levy prefers to flush money down the toilet on wages than be seen to be weak in negotiations .

The priority has to be to shift the dead wood and the closer it gets to the closure of the transfer window the less those players are going to be worth .

 

[Maske2g]

He's scored 1 goal in 18 months in Internationals and he does not have a good EPL record, he just has a better one than our other strikers. But you cant polish a turd.

He's never ripped it up anywhere in his life.

£5m and I'd snap someone's hand off.

Whilst I'm not a fan...in his defence, his goals per minutes ratio for us is incredible for someone who has never once been first choice for more than 4 games.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Whilst I'm not a fan...in his defence, his goals per minutes ratio for us is incredible for someone who has never once been first choice for more than 4 games.

There's a reason for that though.

 

[crisp1979]

It's a shame West Ham went down, they always liked to take a couple of rejects every year. Portsmouth were the same. I think Sunderland are the closest thing to these teams we have left now. I'm sure Steve Bruce is looking at Crouchy & maybe Wilson P

 

[jimmy-jojo]

I really have to laugh at these valuations sometimes.

If I was a chairman, and my manager asked me for 4-5 million to sign a forward who is pushing 31 and hasn't done a think in the premier league for 3 years, I would give him a written warning.

Equally, Bentley couldn't cut the mustard at Birmingham, why is he worth 7 million?
Is it because we stupidly paid 17 million for him? Where is the relevance? Lentini cost 13 million once, now he probably has a walking stick.

Palacios has been mainly poor for 18 months- 2 years. who would pay 9 million for a player who's confidence seems shattered?

Wake up. 95% of teams below us, who will be aiming to sign these sorts of players, simply don't have the cash to splash out such money on players like this.

So you think Palacios hasn't ever played well for us in the time he has been with us?

 

[brett.spurs]

Sevilla paid £8.6m for Didier Zokora.

I don't like seeing Wilson described as deadwood either, find that pretty insulting really considering the work he did to start our revival.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Sevilla paid £8.6m for Didier Zokora.

I don't like seeing Wilson described as deadwood either, find that pretty insulting really considering the work he did to start our revival.

Too right. He's not deadwood in the slightest.

Poor for 18 months? What a load of old shit.

 

[blanchflower007]

Sevilla paid £8.6m for Didier Zokora.

I don't like seeing Wilson described as deadwood either, find that pretty insulting really considering the work he did to start our revival.

Great Post +1. If Palacios goes it will not be for any less than what we paid IMO.

 

[brett.spurs]

He was picking up form again before getting injured. Sandro took most of the plaudits against Milan and whilst he was obviously really good, Wilson was an absolute animal and put in one of the best individual performances from a Spurs player all season.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

He was picking up form again before getting injured. Sandro took most of the plaudits against Milan and whilst he was obviously really good, Wilson was an absolute animal and put in one of the best individual performances from a Spurs player all season.

:clap:

This.

I hate the way people just totally disregard players that are out injured. Palacios was pretty much the reason for our revival when he first arrived at the club. You don't lose that ability over night.

 

[fatpiranha]

Some will be easy to shift like Krancjar, Gio, Pav because their reputations were made on the international stage and we can sell them abroad.

Palacios, Bassong and O'Hara are good players who can't get in a team that has better players in their position. Some premiership team will take them for a decent price.

Crouch, Defoe, Hutton and Jenas all have better reps among other teams supporters than they do at Spurs. So long as we don't get too greedy they should be moveable.

Keane and Bentley are difficult. Busted flushes on silly wages. We should accept a bag of crisps to get them off our wage bill.

 

[blanchflower007]

Some will be easy to shift like Krancjar, Gio, Pav because their reputations were made on the international stage and we can sell them abroad.

Palacios, Bassong and O'Hara are good players who can't get in a team that has better players in their position. Some premiership team will take them for a decent price.

Crouch, Defoe, Hutton and Jenas all have better reps among other teams supporters than they do at Spurs. So long as we don't get too greedy they should be moveable.

Keane and Bentley are difficult. Busted flushes on silly wages. We should accept a bag of crisps to get them off our wage bill.

I think there will be at least 4 teams after Bentley, people soon forget how well he played at the end of last year and how highly he was rated before joining us, I think we will get at least 6 million for him.

Sunderland will be after a few of our players I think as esp if Henderson moves on.