Please stop peddling this apologist bullshit. Harry Kane and many other play with broken fucking noses and are still challenging for headers and banging them in to win the Derby looking like Batman and having to breath from their mouths (in Harry's case that's sort of natural so perhaps he's not affected here). It's a specious argument. It sounds good to those reluctant to criticise Dele but it bullshit to the rest of us.
I just had the same thought. Now I come back to another thought I often have "what are people seeing when they are ostensibly watching football". I see folks in here ascribing good technical ability to Dele. In what world? It's crazy. He is has piss poor technical ability. His nutmegs are because he can't do anything else to beat a man because he can't dribble/control a ball. His flicks are the same thing that is why he is still trying them deeper in the MF where another mgr would have your head for being so loose with the ball.Hopefully the myth is about to end soon and Poch can take him out of the team and out of the squad. People thought Real or Barca would come in for him. Lol.
The thought of a smart deal like this will allow me to rest my head easily tonight. We won't get 100M for Dele because the only team stupid enough to do it is ManU and even they probably realize he is shit. The true hot-iron time was after his second year. But I don't care if he sits or goes for 5M the deal for Brandt is what we need. For me, if we got rid of Eriksen and Dele for Brandt we would be better off. I like Eriksen but he is not an all around MF and in that regard Brandt is better and younger and has the game to actually play from the wing as well.Imagine selling him for £100m and buying Brandt for £20m
It’s a deal, it’s a steal...
You know I had to read this as soon as I got the notification.He’s having a bad season. True..
He’s a good player. Also true.
He has faults on which he can improve. Definitely true.
He has earned our patience. Absolutely true.
You say that as if the vast majority of those players don't have massive deficiencies in their game and could not be easily and inexpensively improved upon. Or better yet, many should have been improved upon already. Soemone just posted a telegraph article saying 12 players being allowed to go. Obvs Lloris, Foyth, Sanchez, Dele and maybe Eriksen are not on that but not very far from the list you just posted. So Poch has it wrong too?Woah these last few pages
Saying he's badly out of form, and the reasons why that may be is normal
But suggesting selling him, and he has never been all that good
That brings it to
Lloris
Trippier
Foyth
Kwp
Aurier
Sanchez
Rose
Davies
Dier
Wanyama
Dele
Eriksen
Lamela
Llorente
Janssen
I've heard aren't good enough for us this season
He’s having a bad season. True..
He’s a good player. Also true.
He has faults on which he can improve. Definitely true.
He has earned our patience. Absolutely true.
What's your financial threshold? Straight swap for Brandt? 25M? 50M? 75M? 100M? Or wouldn't sell for any offer?That being said I'm glad he's on the team and wouldn't sell him.
What's your financial threshold? Straight swap for Brandt? 25M? 50M? 75M? 100M? Or wouldn't sell for any offer?
Do you believe that there is any team out there that would pay 100M for Dele? That was the hype a few years ago but I'm asking about now since most teams have a better/fuller scouting report on him and the shine is off the rose. His England place is probably safe for now since Hudson-Odoi is hurt but I would have imagined it under serious threat with Harry, Sancho, CHO, and Raheem.If I had any confidence we could properly replace him I’d start to think about it over 100 mil but I don’t think we would. And completely understand why the club wouldn’t do that.
He's a better version of Thomas Muller
No I don't think anyone would pay 100mil for Dele. I think he's much better in midfield than he was when he started with us, but he's obviously not a midfielder still.Do you believe that there is any team out there that would pay 100M for Dele? That was the hype a few years ago but I'm asking about now since most teams have a better/fuller scouting report on him and the shine is off the rose. His England place is probably safe for now since Hudson-Odoi is hurt but I would have imagined it under serious threat with Harry, Sancho, CHO, and Raheem.
So will you take my challenge on naming his improvements over these 4 years? 2 folks have implicitly declined already. But I am curious as to what people are seeing in order for them to claim his qualities and have faith they he will 'come good'.
For example, Sterling could not strike a ball, use his left foot, was weak in the tackle and easily pushed off the ball, wasn't great defensively, etc etc. Now his is chippy, busts a gut to take a professional foul to stop a break, knocking them in and passing lefty or righty, and is a danger to man and beast on the field. Demonstrative improvement throughout his game. He's played in the WC and barely gets a break for Pep or England yet he delivers game in game out all the while improving from the Aaron Lennon-light 'what a waste of money' to, for me, one of the 5 best players in the world right now.
Can you name 1 technical thing Dele has demonstrably improved on in his 4 years? If you cannot name 1 thing then my follow-up would be to ask what makes him so valuable that someone would pay 100M for him or that we should move heaven and Earth to keep him.
"a very poor player..." - get a grip.You know I had to read this as soon as I got the notification.
Having a bad season. True
He's a good player. No, a very poor player that is overrated by our supporters because of past goals. He is actually a very very very average footballer
He has faults on which he can improve. True, but why hasn't he improved on anything, and I mean anything, in the 4 years he has been here? Can you name one aspect to his game that he has improved? No, no you can't.
He has earned our patience. No, no he hasn't. Some have recognized his poor play for his full stint here. I would say that is patience. And yet he hasn't improved and I'm gonna be presumptuous and bet that you can't actually point to an example of concrete improvement so why must patience go on?
Ooo, I like these definitive statements. I should try them more often. Thanks for setting the example.