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ohtottenham!

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Dele…”poor player” my arse!

The whole squad is devastated by injuries and fatigue. Our English contingent particularly so. See Kane, Trippier, Dier, Alli, Winks and Rose, who’s probably fared the best of late, but still needed considerable time out to recharge after his injuries.

There have been knock-on effects of our CM crisis throughout our other squad positions due to players being forced to play out of position, and playing far more game time than they should, in order to provide cover for our squad deficiencies.

It’s the arse end of a long season, after a World Cup with our players heavily involved. We also had 3 grueling and taxing games against City within 10 days. Yet, we’re still in with a good top 4 shout, and still have a fighting chance in the CL second leg.

Dele hasn’t been at his best of late, but he’s not alone. If we had a fully-fit DESK, and a fit Sissoko/Winks in CM, I’d back our chances against anyone. But, we don’t, yet we still got that key result against City.

That is a testament to the spirit in the team, and Dele will still have a positive contribution to make before season’s end.
 

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Doesn't help that we have to rush players back after injury when they are clearly not always up to speed because we have such a small squad in terms of strength in depth.
 

IfiHadTheWings

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This thread is embarrassing, Dele is definitely out of form as has been under par for most of the season but the way in which we turn on our players is actually an embarrassment.
 
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ardiles

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This season -

Kane has missed many games through several injuries

Son has had a lot of football starting from the World Cup and unsurprisingly, fatigue has set in.

Eriksen has not been at his best (possibly of his contract issues playing on his mind)

Dele has been off his game for quite some time now, which worsened with the injury to his hand.

All four players were involved in the World Cup and didn’t have a proper pre-season. We have not strengthened for the last two TWs and allowed Dembele to move on without getting any replacement.

We’ve had injuries in other areas of the pitch, resulting in players playing out of position or not having sufficient rest due to being used too much without adequate cover on the bench.

Our midfield has been decimated which resulted in our attacking players having to work overtime supporting the midfield.

When the four are fit and at their best, we are a formidable attacking force.

If we can get Eriksen to sign an extension, we should be back to our best again next season. But we should get proper cover in the summer and replace those that need replacing (none of the four need replacing).
 

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He confuses me so much. At his best he can massively effect a game. But does he ever really boss a game. Could you ever imagine him curling one in from 25 yards. Surly a player of his supposed quality should be able to shoot from outside the box like Kane Son and eriksen can. Think I can remember 2 shots from outside the box he’s ever scored. If we put him up for sale tomorrow I’m really not sure how much interest there would be. I’m still really not sure what he is a 2nd striker a 10 a CM. Like I said he just massively confuses me.And for me if you really have to think this much about a player is he really top quality. I don’t have to think about Salah hazard mane sterling sane b Silva they are just great players.
 

ardiles

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Despite all our hurdles this season, we are still
third in the league and in the CL SFs.

If our main players are given adequate rest in the summer and with, hopefully, new quality additions to the squad, we should be even better next season. Especially so, now that we have the full season to play our home games at NWHL.
 

michaelden

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This thread is a embarrassing, Dele is definitely out of form as has been under par for most of the season but the way in which we turn on our players is actually an embarrassment.

Maybe, but his performances recently are the same. He is a pale shadow of his ability and that is more embarrassing. Not even going through the motions.
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

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This thread is a embarrassing, Dele is definitely out of form as has been under par for most of the season but the way in which we turn on our players is actually an embarrassment.
I don't think that's fair.

When Dele is his usual self, he gets lavished with praise, and rightly so. I don't think it's then wrong to criticise him when he's out of form, which he is.

Yesterday was the biggest game of his career and he literally did nothing. He deserves criticism for that imo.
 

IfiHadTheWings

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Criticism is fine and of course people are pissed off with the result/performances (so am I) but there is always this over the top nonsense whenever a player goes through a bad patch, player is out of form suddenly he's not good enough and needs to be sold just look at the Eriksen thread recently.

There are a lot of players playing without confidence and rhythm in our team at the moment due to a lot of factors, not being able to field a consistent team due to injuries has clearly disrupted our rhythm and if Dele is anything he is a rhythm player who plays best linking up with Eriksen & Kane.
 

Tucker

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This thread is embarrassing, Dele is definitely out of form as has been under par for most of the season but the way in which we turn on our players is actually an embarrassment.

It’s really sad how our so called fans turn on players like this.
 

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Nobody is doubting his quality. However he hasn’t just had one or two bad games. In truth, he’s had an awful season for the most part. If we had players fit, he wouldn’t be starting based on his current form.

He has no excuses to perform that badly yesterday. It was the biggest game of his life and he was a passenger.

If everyone was and had been fit, he'd have better quality around him, probably be more rested, and be playing in a more natural position, and thus playing better.

Also, and awful season? He hasn't racked up the numbers of previous years, but he was having a great season before the injuries.
 

Primativ

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I just had the same thought. Now I come back to another thought I often have "what are people seeing when they are ostensibly watching football". I see folks in here ascribing good technical ability to Dele. In what world? It's crazy. He is has piss poor technical ability. His nutmegs are because he can't do anything else to beat a man because he can't dribble/control a ball. His flicks are the same thing that is why he is still trying them deeper in the MF where another mgr would have your head for being so loose with the ball.

Don't really know how long it will take for the worm to turn on this one but the laggards will come around in time to realize that we have a very average player on our hands that hasn't improved one aspect of his game in 4 years. Imagine 100M in our pocket if we sold him after his second year and now imagine ManU labored with Dele on 250K/wk and Sanchez. It was a poisoned pill that we could have fed those arrogant fuckers. All it would have taken was someone to be bold, smart, incisive, or reasonable enough to admit the emperor had no clothes. We could have swindled them.


Couldn’t agree with you more. The kid is piss poor technically. He has an instinctive finish with his head or feet occasionally, and he has a knack for sniffing out chances (when on form) but he is essentially an English Tim Cahill.

Like I said, I think he’s the biggest fraud in this spurs side and has been for about 18 months. People on here can be sheep and they get outraged when you say anything negative about a Spurs player.

Alli is over hyped beyond belief by Spurs fans. People turn a blind eye to his ridiculous amount of faults. People also confuse technique with technical ability.

Alli is a street footballer, that's how I best describe him. Fancy flicks and instinctive finishes, great technique, but his technical ability is piss poor. Could you ever imagine Alli doing a 30 yard raking pass? Do you ever see him switching player with a curl of the outside boot? Do you ever see him making excellent long rage shots? No, he doesn't have it in his game.

You look at Sancho, Hudson-Odoi, Sterling, they have much more about them for playing that position effectively.

All Alli does is receive the ball, and then pass it backwards. Alli has no pace or dribbling ability to beat a defender one on one, bar a nutmeg (street footballer you see).

The guy is a complete enigma in the modern game. Pep or Klopp would never play him in their teams, they don't accommodate fancy dans who contribute nothing to the overall team play function.

On top of his lack of attributes which would make him a complete player for that position on the pitch. I have to also question his mentality and attitude. He seems more focused on the celebrity culture of being a pro footballer, chasing slags around, thinks he's made it.

Biggest game of his club career and he puts in a disgrace of a performance last night. He strolled around like a big time charlie who had put us 3 nil up. The kid has always been total shit for England. He never performs internationally. Even when he was scoring 20 league goals a season, he was never that involved in games for us. Now the goals have long dried up, the bloke literally does fuck all.

WIth Kane and Son out, Alli is supposed to be stepping up. Games like last night are what makes players. You used to see big game players stepping up in games like last night, Alli was pathetic.

Mark my words if he doesn't sort it out the kid will be playing for Everton in a couple of seasons. I'd be amazed if Poch thinks he can plan and build a team and attacking strstegy around such a passenger with so many clear defiencies in his game which Alli looks nowhere near fixing.
 

Primativ

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If everyone was and had been fit, he'd have better quality around him, probably be more rested, and be playing in a more natural position, and thus playing better.

Also, and awful season? He hasn't racked up the numbers of previous years, but he was having a great season before the injuries.



LOL. no he wasn't. Great?! That's such an easy word to throw around. He's had an awful season. He rarely ever dictates a game, or dominates it with an immense attacking play. People keep making excuses for him, but Alli is exactly the player he's always been, just he isn't scoring.

Two or three seasons ago he still had all the same faults and flaws, still barely involved in games, but he used to score a la Tim Cahill.

Alli justified his place in the team solely on his goals output. He did fuck all else. I don't think we can afford to carry such a flawed player long term if we want to be a really successful team.
 

SteveH

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Dele probable would not be playing if we were not down to the bare bones in the squad.
He got a fractured hand cast, this will impact on the balance of his movement big time.
 
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