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Shadydan

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Athletes are paid to entertain us so I have no qualms about how much they get paid, now compare that to Directors of multi million pound companies who exploit other helpless human beings for their companies wealth, how much do you think the directors of Nike are paid, FAR more than your average footballer.
 

WhiteHeartLowe

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Athletes are paid to entertain us so I have no qualms about how much they get paid, now compare that to Directors of multi million pound companies who exploit other helpless human beings for their companies wealth, how much do you think the directors of Nike are paid, FAR more than your average footballer.

I suppose the difference is that if the directors of Nike (or any big company) know their stuff and make the brand successful then they create jobs and wealth for many other people, and the countries economy as a whole.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Dele's had a difficult up bringing and from looking in from the outside Poch seems like a bit of a father figure for him which he hasn't ever had. Although this is conjecture it may well be a factor in him sticking around for a good while.
They said Bale loved AVB, too. Which in truth, there is no doubt they got a long really well. They also said that Bale was so tied to his family and had just gotten a baby and even spent football breaks to go visit his dad rather than party it up in Orlando (which was partially true), so he clearly was going to stay. They said a lot of things. It's all bullshit at the end of the day.
 

worcestersauce

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Dele won't be going anywhere, not least because he knows he doesn't need to go anywhere at the moment, this is not a player who is going to snatch at a once in a lifetime opportunity because he knows and his advisors know that it isn't a once in a lifetime opportunity.
If Madrid want him now they will be gagging for him in four years time, we know it, they know it and he knows it so why would he jump too soon.
 

TEESSIDE1

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Dele won't be going anywhere, not least because he knows he doesn't need to go anywhere at the moment, this is not a player who is going to snatch at a once in a lifetime opportunity because he knows and his advisors know that it isn't a once in a lifetime opportunity.
If Madrid want him now they will be gagging for him in four years time, we know it, they know it and he knows it so why would he jump too soon.

With us now competing with the elite English clubs and being financially stable we don't need to sell him and Alli shouldn't feel the need to move for footballing reasons in terms of bettering his career.

Outside of the EPL you have PSG but you'll soon get bored playing in a crap league as everyone outside of PSG and Monaco are pants. Germany, the only club to worry about is Bayern Munich but they spunked the best part of £40m, rising to £60m on Sanches in the summer and he can't even get in the team. Barcelona are overloaded with midfielders leaving only Real Madrid as potential suitors but again in Real's case when everyone is fit they have Morata, Isco, Kovacic and Rodriguez sitting on the bench. He could go to Real but would in effect be a squad player. Italian league is shite and that only leaves outside of Europe. China are throwing money about all over the place but the pitches and standard of football is still horrific. You can pretty much kiss goodbye to your international career if you go to China. I'm not worried by China one bit as Qatar and UAE's having been offering extortionate fees and wages for a number of years and have like China only succeeded in attracting journeymen and squad players.
 

aliyid

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Athletes are paid to entertain us so I have no qualms about how much they get paid, now compare that to Directors of multi million pound companies who exploit other helpless human beings for their companies wealth, how much do you think the directors of Nike are paid, FAR more than your average footballer.
Comparison I always make is with singers or actors as they are in the entertainment industry too.

Even old singers like Madonna made well over $1m per week last year (think she was at $78m in 2016) compare that to top players who are on £150k per week (£8m/yr so 10% that of an artist who hasn't released anything decent in over 10yrs) Taylor swift, Katy Perry and even Barry Manilow make double that...

Then you think that top actors get around $20-30m per film it starts to make you think footballlers get the raw end of the deal for the efforts they have to put in
 

dontcallme

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I suppose the difference is that if the directors of Nike (or any big company) know their stuff and make the brand successful then they create jobs and wealth for many other people, and the countries economy as a whole.

But some of these multi-billionaire cloth making companies have been found having sweat shops in the poorest countries in the world with their workers suffering terrible conditions and being paid peanuts.

At least in football everyone gets well paid.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2007/oct/28/ethicalbusiness.india

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/may/20/burhanwazir.theobserver

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/expo...that-pay-children-just-60p-a-day-6875294.html

http://bell5043.blogspot.co.uk/2009/01/reebok-sweatshops.html

 

tototoner

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Mirror saying Barcelona interested now also.

To be honest I am not surprised all the top clubs in Europe are interested but if we have aspirations to get to that table then we cannot keep selling our best players.

Personally I cannot see Alli going anywhere for a long time yet.
 

dontcallme

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Mirror saying Barcelona interested now also.

To be honest I am not surprised all the top clubs in Europe are interested but if we have aspirations to get to that table then we cannot keep selling our best players.

Personally I cannot see Alli going anywhere for a long time yet.

"Keep Selling?" Wasn't the last time we sold a top player 4 years ago where the player pushed hard for a move to Real Madrid and had to put in a world record fee to get him?
 

tototoner

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"Keep Selling?" Wasn't the last time we sold a top player 4 years ago where the player pushed hard for a move to Real Madrid and had to put in a world record fee to get him?

Long may it continue

Someone should tell the media this
 

Danners9

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so last week, morning of a game, the Mirror had Alli leaving. This week, morning of a game, they once again have Alli maybe leaving.

I'll hold off until next week until calling it a pattern, but it is looking that way.
 

shelfmonkey

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I suppose the difference is that if the directors of Nike (or any big company) know their stuff and make the brand successful then they create jobs and wealth for many other people, and the countries economy as a whole.

Tell that to Nike workers in third world countries when the footwear and clobber they make is sold for more per item than they earn in a month or more, I'm sure they'll feel a lot better!
 

WhiteHeartLowe

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Tell that to Nike workers in third world countries when the footwear and clobber they make is sold for more per item than they earn in a month or more, I'm sure they'll feel a lot better!
Im not trying to defend Nike's business practices, or any other big company, of course their are sharks among them, but their products sell for what the market will stand, and its naive to expect them to do otherwise, the fact is that many people work for 'big companies' in many different countries, and are damn glad that they do. Look at the recent failures of BHS and Woolworths for example, companies that were ultimately badly run that went to the wall, losing many thousands of people their jobs.
Also, everyone who has a PEP, an ISA or a private pension should hope that these large companies prosper, as thats where their money is invested, millions of people, not themselves wealthy, (like me in fact) with a small/medium pot of money trusting that these directors of the these companies know how to run a successful business, and as in all walks of life, to get the best in any field of human endeavor, costs.
 

riggi

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Not read anything on here but ive always thought Alli is a lot more likely to leave than Kane.
 

knowlespurs

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there is zero chance of him leaving this window, and very very little chance of leaving in the summer as well
 

Pochie

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Alli is a young lad who is happy at Spurs. So are the rest of the squad. One after the other they've signed new contracts.

The point is Mirror/Mail/Lawro and any other stirrer who wants to try and tear us down, Spurs are building a cracking team that is going places. All the players can feel it and none of them want to leave.

It's getting good. Keep excited. COYS!
 

archiewasking

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Just playing devil's advocate here, but.......
He didn't have to think too hard before leaving MK Dons to join us.
If Barca or RM make a concrete high bid, would you really believe Alli's head wouldn't be turned? Surely at the least he would want to hear what they have to say.

I imagine we would be looking for another huge, say £100m fee, for him. If one of the Spanish giants offer that, can you really see him staying? As far as I know, he's not a Spurs fan from conception, so we're don't have that pull on the heart that Kane has. Alli could rupture something the day after they sign him and end his career. He might never be as good again as he is this season, even without an injury. If the club settled on, for instance, £50m plus Isco, would anyone on here think that was a nightmare deal?
 

dontcallme

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Just playing devil's advocate here, but.......
He didn't have to think too hard before leaving MK Dons to join us.
If Barca or RM make a concrete high bid, would you really believe Alli's head wouldn't be turned? Surely at the least he would want to hear what they have to say.

I imagine we would be looking for another huge, say £100m fee, for him. If one of the Spanish giants offer that, can you really see him staying? As far as I know, he's not a Spurs fan from conception, so we're don't have that pull on the heart that Kane has. Alli could rupture something the day after they sign him and end his career. He might never be as good again as he is this season, even without an injury. If the club settled on, for instance, £50m plus Isco, would anyone on here think that was a nightmare deal?

We should never completely rule out any player or manager wanting to join the truly elite. We have thankfully moved up to a level where the clubs in the top four are not always a step up but Real and Barca will always be the dream and pinnacle for many players.

Real Madrid have a history of buying players in and around theri peak. They rarely buy players with the idea to develop them and give them time. As good and effective as Alli is we know there is still a lot of work to go into his game.

Barca are more likely to implement players more slowly into their system but at the moment I don't believe he is a great fit for them. It would take a huge amount of money for them to buy Alli and I'm not convinced he would be top of their list right now.

So in conclusion I don't believe it is impossible for Alii's head to get turned but in my view it is unlikely that the 2 clubs mentioned currently have a serious interest in the player.
 
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