Do anti-Defoe brigade now see why Redknapp will not sell him ?

[bas]

Defoe showed again v W. Brom how valuable he is to our club and does not receive the apprecxiation he deserves. Apart from a good and very important goal he got better as the game went on . I watched the game but they did not show on MOTD how he linked up with Adebayor and in particular one great move involving several passes on the ground that presented Adebayor with an easy chance that should have been buried. I realise that it seems impossible to fit VDV and Defoe into the same team as there are only so many spaces available but what a lovely problem to have - especially with injuries and suspensions to contend with. Had Rooney scored Defoes goal yesterday it would have received rapturous applause from the media. Well done Harry you're right again.

 

[There's always next year]

Defoe showed again v W. Brom how valuable he is to our club and does not receive the apprecxiation he deserves. Apart from a good and very important goal he got better as the game went on . I watched the game but they did not show on MOTD how he linked up with Adebayor and in particular one great move involving several passes on the ground that presented Adebayor with an easy chance that should have been buried. I realise that it seems impossible to fit VDV and Defoe into the same team as there are only so many spaces available but what a lovely problem to have - especially with injuries and suspensions to contend with. Had Rooney scored Defoes goal yesterday it would have received rapturous applause from the media. Well done Harry you're right again.

There are a small minority who don't particularly rate Defoe, so to generalise your opinion is a little unfair. I also suspect that those who show dissent towards Defoe, do so due to becoming frustrated that he is not maximising his potential.

Redknapp won't sell hm, and rightly so as his form this year considering game time is pretty good.

 

[ikky]

I dont mind him staying and fighting for his place, the question is does Defoe want to stay and play 2nd fiddle to a superior player in Van der Varrt. Yesterdays game Defoe was anonymous for 75% of the game.

 

[kdspur]

defoe is great when a game is like the second half.. lots of space and open play but when game is on knife edge in tight games against proper well drilled teams then he offers no hold play, cant win any headers or hold onto ball to an extent of a top class centere forward and you couple that with fact he is incredibly selfish and offside alot and he is a frustrating player.

he took his goal very well yesterday and thats where he is lethal but and its a huge but, he was crap in first half along with many others in fairness but thats a first half im used to with defoe.. he really offers nothing and barely touched the ball. if you want to be top top club you need a center forward ala rooney and the like who can influence play. With defoe and when we dont have ball i feel we carry him to a huge extent.

he has obviously contributed from bench and he plays a part but for me thats all it should be.. we are third for reason with ade and vdv up there.

 

[haxman]

Frustrating player. Brilliant sometimes, totally shit others.

 

[RobinLeonard]

Against WBA:

Adebayor: 52 passes
Defoe: 22 passes

Bale: 62 passes
Sandro: 40 passes
Parker: 60 passes
Lennon: 43 passes

BAE: 80 passes
Kaboul: 38 passes
King: 36 passes
Walker: 68 passes

I like Defoe and he has started the season brightly. But he does not get involved enough in our general play to be considered a starter. Especially not in competition with VdV who offers as many goals complete with a better all round play.

 

[CosmicHotspur]

He's a finisher and little else. Great when he's on target but, sadly, he is inconsistent.

He's good but he's most certainly not the best striking option in the squad. He needs to be fed the ball, not often taking it through the opposition himself into a scoring position, and it would be interesting to see percentage-wise how many of the excellent passes he receives in front of goal come to nothing.

 

[Krafty]

I like JD and I'm glad he got his goal. He is a very lethal finisher when on form, and he seems to work very well with Adebayor.

I watched the football first match and in the second half he was always on the move - didn't always get the ball but was never static, and his finish for the goal was very good.

I feel its important to keep JD sharp and on form because VDV does pick up injuries, and there will be times when we need two proper strikers on the pitch. He isn't an automatic starter but is certainly in and around there and given the way we are playing, especially the movement from the team as a whole, he will get goals.

 

[mpickard2087]

I give him credit, I had totally given up on both him and Pav at the end of last season but Defoe has worked hard over the summer, regained his sharpness and looks a lot stronger than previously and he is now banging in a few goals, whereas Pav has opted to do nothing and got even worse.

Defoe still has his limitations, but on this form isnt a bad squad member to have at all.

 

[Legend10]

What a load of old bollocks all this counting passes is. Players offer the team different things and it's the sum of all parts that's important. Counting passes, lol totally ridiculous and obviously Ledley was our 2nd worst player yesterday based on having the 2nd lowest passes and Walker who didn't by recent standards have a great day was our 2nd best performer.

 

[dynamoSpurs]

defoe is the nuts. most clinical in the league and a cracking fella it seems. spurs through and through. we'd be stupid to sell.

 

[Legend10]

He's a finisher and little else. Great when he's on target but, sadly, he is inconsistent.

He's good but he's most certainly not the best striking option in the squad. He needs to be fed the ball, not often taking it through the opposition himself into a scoring position, and it would be interesting to see percentage-wise how many of the excellent passes he receives in front of goal come to nothing.

Blimey a striker who needs to be fed the ball, criminal! And of course you won't often see him creating chances for himself and oh hang on a minute I've just seen his goal yesterday!

 

[jonathanhotspur]

He was barely involved in the first half (8 passes tells its own story) but I was thrilled with his goal and very pleased with some of his link-up play in the second half.

 

[Capocrimini]

No one is anti Defoe, most Spurs fans love the kid. We all just know he had the potential to be a superstar, and for whatever reason he has become a journeyman goal scorer. I expected a lot more. In terms of value for money, we've had Lennon, Bale, Walker and hell even VDV come through and show game changing abilities. Whereas Defoe when he's on the pitch you always think he needs a bit of luck to score, yesterdays finish was brilliant but let's be honest where was the closing down? I actually love Defoe, but I appreciate we can't start him, as long as he's happy being second fiddle, but I would not want him starting.

 

[ajspurs]

Fantastic squad player to have, but that's all right now in my eyes.

 

[KILLA_SIN]

defoe is the nuts. most clinical in the league and a cracking fella it seems. spurs through and through. we'd be stupid to sell.

:rofl:

 

[Chinaspur]

Striking stats in premier league so far this year:

Ade - played 893 minutes, 7 goals = 1 Goal per 128 minutes (1.4 games)

VdV - played 741 minutes, 6 goals = 1 Goal per 124 minutes (1.4 games)

Defoe - played 553 minutes, 5 goals = 1 Goal per 111 minutes (1.2 games)

What a front three! They all offer something different. Think Defoe gets a hard time on here (if you don't go search for Dan Ashcroft's posts!), so pleased he is proving the critics wrong.

 

[StartingPrice]

Frustrating player. Brilliant sometimes, totally shit others.

This.

I have never been anti-Defoe...but have stated that he should be a squad player now, and as long as he is happy to accept that then I am fine with keeping him.

But, the thing that sums him up, IMHO, would be that yesterday I was thinking :bang: typical selfish Defoe :bang: at which point he scored

And that returns me to being happy to have him as a squad player, if he will accept that, but that, if fit, our front two should be VDV and Adebayor for the time being.

 

[RobinLeonard]

What a load of old bollocks all this counting passes is. Players offer the team different things and it's the sum of all parts that's important. Counting passes, lol totally ridiculous and obviously Ledley was our 2nd worst player yesterday based on having the 2nd lowest passes and Walker who didn't by recent standards have a great day was our 2nd best performer.

You are laughing at your own faulty interpretation of my post.

It's not a definite measure of quality but it's an indication of something. Every other outfield player irregardless of position saw the ball at least twice as much as Defoe. Is that meaningless?

Defoe is not the kind of player who closes down the opposition (Adebayor is better at this aswell) and while Defoe can play off the shoulder of the last defender, potentially pushing the defense deeper, it's not his natural game.

I like Defoe, I want to keep him in the squad. But in a game where we bossed possession, a game where he played 90 minutes, 20 passes does tell the story of a player who is at times, a passenger.

At the end of the day a striker might well be judged on goals. But Darren Bent scores loads of goals, still every club he plays for ends up in the middle of the table.

 

[freeeki]

I don't think there's anyone who doubts that Defoe is a superb asset and a fearsome striker on his day.

Sadly, as with Robbie Keane, it seems that in recent years "his day" has occurred less and less often.

This season it appears that JD is experiencing a good run of form, which is great. Long may it continue.

We'd be wrong to get rid on his current form. He's still got a few good seasons left in him providing he remains fit and motivated.