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Fredo

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I do agree with this but I also think there's something amiss in our scouting if these 'ambitious' signings don't work out consistently, as seems to be the case with Spurs. Ndombele, Lo Celso, Soldado, Lamela, Sanchez, none have done particularly well. Even Rebrov didn't cut it.
You've actually got a point there. Ah idk anymore. Lets just see how we've done at the end of the window.
 

arunspurs

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I dont understand why we agree 70+20 for Martinez but dont get this guy? Am I missing something? What are we going to use that money on then?...

What we supposedly had was a provincial agreement...somethign like, we can agree to 70m bid...but we need to see whether we can move Kane or not. As for as Martinez , he is less risky given he is a SerieA & Copa winner. Easier to move him on given his image, if things dont work out.
Vlahovic is everything based on 1 very good season for a non-European team. So, risky to go beyond certain level
 

Pochemon94

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I do agree with this but I also think there's something amiss in our scouting if these 'ambitious' signings don't work out consistently, as seems to be the case with Spurs. Ndombele, Lo Celso, Soldado, Lamela, Sanchez, none have done particularly well. Even Rebrov didn't cut it.
I will say this, the issue is, we don’t have the prestige like Bayern, the wage structure like city/Chelsea/United or the combination of the both. We will not get a pogba/haaland/Kane/lewandowski/kimmich/Ronaldo in the transfer window, we have to buy players that are on the cusp of that in terms of big name signing, the problem is that they are one step away from it and sometimes they just don’t develop for various reasons. I hope we end up hitting on a Martinez or a vlahalovic but there is always inherent risk in any transfer, you essentially are paying for less risk the higher up you go in fee. Anywho that’s my ted talk hahaha
 

rossdapep

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Besides we've always done better with the more under the radar types or those who are not demanding high fees.


I think it's fair to believe shopping in the Njie, Nkodou market is showing no ambition and is beneath us.

But it's also fair to not expect the club to get involved in crazy bidding wars.

We were the only team seemingly willing to go high for Ndombele and it's clear why.

We need to shop in the midrange, special talents that are not going to over exert us.

It's where we've gone wrong in recent times, we started chasing the higher end players who every big club was chasing at mega prices (De Jong, Ndombele, Bruno), we then overpaid on younger British players. Then, last season Jose applied the band aid with temporary fixes who turned out to be ill suited (Doherty, Hart, Vinicius)

We need to get back to better scouting with real value. Sarr fits that.
 

Albertbarich

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I reckon martinez will be a spurs player by the end of the window.

Inter can't let anymore star players leave hence all the statements. Martinez wants to leave a hero hence his statements.

And yet inter who are (no apparently about it) skint are buying strikers already got dzeko and now after thurham and correa. Oh and zapata.

Call me a crazy deluded optimist if you must and it would be the first time I've ever been called that but I honestly think that's what's happening.
 

curlacious

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I will say this, the issue is, we don’t have the prestige like Bayern, the wage structure like city/Chelsea/United or the combination of the both. We will not get a pogba/haaland/Kane/lewandowski/kimmich/Ronaldo in the transfer window, we have to buy players that are on the cusp of that in terms of big name signing, the problem is that they are one step away from it and sometimes they just don’t develop for various reasons. I hope we end up hitting on a Martinez or a vlahalovic but there is always inherent risk in any transfer, you essentially are paying for less risk the higher up you go in fee. Anywho that’s my ted talk hahaha
That's true.

Although I think now the market has skewed so 'very promising' players in the 22/23 age bracket are way overpriced and STILL risky (Pepe, Ndombele) because they've just exploded onto the scene/into form in one season and are 'fashionable' that year.

The clever money is in the soon-to-become promising market with players around 19/20/21, who on the whole are much cheaper.

That seems to be where our transfer strategy is headed, thankfully (Gil, Sarr and Kvaratskhelia etc)
 

Jospur

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Feels like Spurs are now slinking off with its tail between its legs. Transfer window started well but has now devolved into what Spurs’ fans have come to expect. There was supposed to be non-Kane money to be spent but where has that gone? Probably not on quality players such as Vlahovic but more on a scattergun approach of bringing in potential talent and see if we get lucky. Too bad.

We may or may not end up with Kane this season but it looks like we’ve lost the very real talent of Gareth Bale who contributed well - when the turd Mourinho would allow him.

Our new ‘Don’ has come in with a fanfare of trumpets - and he seems like a very likable, passionate individual - but at this stage of the transfer game I’m feeling very underwhelmed. Hope he does well but not holding my breadth.

ValenciaYid has said that the Club needs Champions League Football. Sure it does. Tottenham Hotspur has arguably the best football stadium and training ground in the world. Also the best striker in the world.

Now is the time to live by the motto ‘To Dare is to Do’.

If Champions League Football is the immediate aim then spend the money on bringing in first team players. Quality. Better quality than the opposition.

Now is the time…
 

robotsonic

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The clever money is in the soon-to-become promising market with players around 19/20/21, who on the whole are much cheaper.

That seems to be where our transfer strategy is headed, thankfully (Gil, Sarr and Kvaratskhelia etc)

This absolutely. The money in the game is a joke at the moment, and players who have proven sweet FA are going for tens and tens of millions of pounds that we can't afford to not see pay off for us.

We need to act like the German teams (outside of Bayern), imo, and do exactly what you've described. Scout well and take well measured punts on very promising young players, and not get drawn into signing players who looked good in a couple of CL matches and are now worth 60mil because of the stage, because honestly it's no better than signing someone off of the back of a good World Cup imo.
 

Albertbarich

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We didn't get into a billion quids worth of debt to build this fancy new stadium to have the same transfer approach as when we were at the lane.

Were in and we need to compete s s just because some big name buys have gone wrong it doesn't mean we should lower our ambitions.

Let's see what happens come September but this kid and martinez are absolutely the type of buys we should be making.
 

robotsonic

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If Champions League Football is the immediate aim then spend the money on bringing in first team players. Quality. Better quality than the opposition.

Now is the time…

Does Dusan Vlahovic even fall into that bracket? I'm not so sure. He looks the real stuff, but hasn't done nearly enough to be a sure bet, and they want 50-80mil for the player by all accounts. We keep spending massive cash on first team players and all it gets us is us all wanting them gone within two years, or them wanting to be gone from us. We've never been at our best that way, and it's not proving to be the case these days either.
 

easley91

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I do agree with this but I also think there's something amiss in our scouting if these 'ambitious' signings don't work out consistently, as seems to be the case with Spurs. Ndombele, Lo Celso, Soldado, Lamela, Sanchez, none have done particularly well. Even Rebrov didn't cut it.
I'd just like to say Ndombele has the ability but is a mental problem, Lo Celso and Lamela blighted by injuries but both have/had potential, Sanchez can be good on his day, Soldado was decent in Spain before we signed him.

Using the timeline from Soldado, we also scouted Dele, Son, Eriksen, Toby, etc. So we've had players work out and not work out. Guess what? That's football. Not every signing will be a roaring success.

Every signing is a risk and nobody knows how they'll react when they arrive in a new country, new culture, new league, new club etc.
 

glacierSpurs

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Would love for AM to sign him and get in some serious debt. Fiorentina not selling him and lose out on raking in €70mil from us is also great. I'll be laughing at either one. But I don't think we should lose too much sleep over missing him out to that insane amount of price been asked for.
 

septicsac

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Also in the "I think we will regret not buying this guy" camp, but at 80M its getting very risky, I just hope there are good viable alternatives, as we passed on the likes of Ings and Daka, who would fit the bill of cheapish options, well cheap compared to DV or LM.
This will be a major test for Fab, as any alternatives to DV are not very clear at the minute, hopefully he has a few tricks up his sleeve.
 

ardiles

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If the player is still at his current club when the TW closes and if he doesn’t sign an extension, I think Fabio might get into ears of the player and his agent, that we would go for him again during the next winter or summer TW, when his fee would be much lower as he’d have only a year left (if it’s next summer) of his current contract.
 

spursfan77

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We didn't get into a billion quids worth of debt to build this fancy new stadium to have the same transfer approach as when we were at the lane.

Were in and we need to compete s s just because some big name buys have gone wrong it doesn't mean we should lower our ambitions.

Let's see what happens come September but this kid and martinez are absolutely the type of buys we should be making.

I agree but we also didn’t expect it to not be producing any income for nearly two years. It hasn’t been open to crowds for a full season yet or for the additional uses there. It might take us a while to get back to a healthy financial position but because of the stadium and the fact we pay less wages than our rivals, we will be there a lot quicker than the rest of them. We just need to hope fans can attend games all season.
 

$hoguN

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Our interest was when we thought we had a chance around the 40m mark. Soon ended when it doubled.
Thanks for sharing. Very disappointing news as this looks like the best time to invest.

Hopefully Fab has others in mind!
 
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