Emmanuel Adebayor (from rumour to DONE)

[rez9000]

This is my favourite picture ever.

It IS a great photo.

 

[StartingPrice]

There is no proof he would have gone through on his bluff but the fact that he is telling city he'd be prepared to sit in the reserves and collect his money every week isn't a bargaining chip, I admire and not one I would expect any player worth their salt to use. The people at city know him better than any of us, they obviously felt that there was a realistic possibility that he may go through with his threat, which suggests that don't think too highly of him.

Like I said, it remains unproven.
All that is proven is that Citeh had more to lose than him, which is usually the case when the blinker is outfaced by the blinkee

I can't say whether you would do the same in his situation or not, because there have been moral issues where one of my friends has stated flatly that I (SP) would do the same, and another friend, who knew me slightly better, has pointed out that actually I wouldn't. I can't say whether I would've or not, because while I get the point you are making, neither of us is in that world (you're not, are you? ), and I do recognise that it is a crazy world where the normal rules do not seem to apply.

Puts me in mind of an article I read, years ago, by Rob Lee (of Newcastle) during his playing career. He said that he found the money in football literally disgusting. His dad was a miner, and he grew up during the miner's strike, etc., and he wasn't mincing his words about how obscene he found it. He then said, as a professional footballer in a top 4 side, he expected to be paid on a level commensurate with his contemporaries. I understood that ambiguity, and that is the problem here. Like I said, Citeh have hardly acted as a moral agent in the whole situation, and there were bluffing him, too - we desperately need to get you off the books, whether you would prefer to stay or not, and we know that is going to entail a negative impact on your earning potential, we just don't give a fook, we're going to short change you as much as we can, be mealy-mouthed asmuch as we can. Would you just be a good boy, collect you £200 for passing go, take your two Sherbert Fountains and feck off, or would you make it clear that you expected better and had some cards of your own to play?

 

[Berglad]

This is my favourite picture ever.

So does the press continue with the "AVB is arrogant and humorless" line or do they now change track to "AVB is losing the respect of the players with his clownish antics?"

 

[Mullers]

Like I said, it remains unproven.
All that is proven is that Citeh had more to lose than him, which is usually the case when the blinker is outfaced by the blinkee

Monetarily yes, but they will keep going as a club competing for trophies even if he is in the reserves, where as Ade's career would be in ruins.

I can't say whether you would do the same in his situation or not, because there have been moral issues where one of my friends has stated flatly that I (SP) would do the same, and another friend, who knew me slightly better, has pointed out that actually I wouldn't. I can't say whether I would've or not, because while I get the point you are making, neither of us is in that world (you're not, are you? ), and I do recognise that it is a crazy world where the normal rules do not seem to apply.

Puts me in mind of an article I read, years ago, by Rob Lee (of Newcastle) during his playing career. He said that he found the money in football literally disgusting. His dad was a miner, and he grew up during the miner's strike, etc., and he wasn't mincing his words about how obscene he found it. He then said, as a professional footballer in a top 4 side, he expected to be paid on a level commensurate with his contemporaries. I understood that ambiguity, and that is the problem here. Like I said, Citeh have hardly acted as a moral agent in the whole situation, and there were bluffing him, too - we desperately need to get you off the books, whether you would prefer to stay or not, and we know that is going to entail a negative impact on your earning potential, we just don't give a fook, we're going to short change you as much as we can, be mealy-mouthed asmuch as we can. Would you just be a good boy, collect you £200 for passing go, take your two Sherbert Fountains and feck off, or would you make it clear that you expected better and had some cards of your own to play?

I'm not from that world but I do know some wealthy people, a few of which are my friends. Whilst I think saying things in theory and following it up in reality are two different things, I think I have a fair idea of what I would do and what I wouldn't do. I would say my happiness is more important than the money. It wouldn't make me happy if I am deprived of doing something I would like to do but still getting a shit load of money for doing nothing. Football career is short, life is short.

I understand the point you're making but even with a pay cut he'd still be amongst the top earnings in the prem.

 

[StartingPrice]

Monetarily yes, but they will keep going as a club competing for trophies even if he is in the reserves, where as Ade's career would be in ruins.


I'm not from that world but I do know some wealthy people, a few of which are my friends. Whilst I think saying things in theory and following it up in reality are two different things, I think I have a fair idea of what I would do and what I wouldn't do. I would say my happiness is more important than the money. It wouldn't make me happy if I am deprived of doing something I would like to do but still getting a shit load of money for doing nothing. Football career is short, life is short.

I understand the point you're making but even with a pay cut he'd still be amongst the top earnings in the prem.

Well, apparently, Citeh thought they had more to lose.

I'm afraid you missed my point, somewhat. I wasn't discussing footballers as being in a world that is alien to us becuase they are rich, but specifically because it is the football world. I'm not justifying it, I illustrated it with the anecdote from Rob Lee to show how even normally level-headed, humble folk from humble backgrounds who are disgusted by what they perceive as the amount of greed in the game can also modify their behaviour to get what they perceive as their due as weighed against their contemporaries.

And, sad, to say, the world outside of football is littered with examples of folk who claim to adhere to one precept and yet act against it. I mean, jsut look at the number of labour supporting celebs who feign disgust at Tory business men who screw the tax system, who are being outed for exploiting loopholes to keep even more of their alrady gross wages! If you have wealthy friends who practice moral rectitude in these matters as well as adhering to the precepts then, I guess, you are lucky in your friendships - just not sure it equates with the world offootball.

 

[Mullers]

Well, apparently, Citeh thought they had more to lose.

I'm afraid you missed my point, somewhat. I wasn't discussing footballers as being in a world that is alien to us becuase they are rich, but specifically because it is the football world. I'm not justifying it, I illustrated it with the anecdote from Rob Lee to show how even normally level-headed, humble folk from humble backgrounds who are disgusted by what they perceive as the amount of greed in the game can also modify their behaviour to get what they perceive as their due as weighed against their contemporaries.

And, sad, to say, the world outside of football is littered with examples of folk who claim to adhere to one precept and yet act against it. I mean, jsut look at the number of labour supporting celebs who feign disgust at Tory business men who screw the tax system, who are being outed for exploiting loopholes to keep even more of their alrady gross wages! If you have wealthy friends who practice moral rectitude in these matters as well as adhering to the precepts then, I guess, you are lucky in your friendships - just not sure it equates with the world offootball.

I'm not saying my friends do I just mentioned it because I thought you were talking about the football world in regards to wealth. I agree with what you're saying but to balance it out there are humble people from humble backgrounds who are principled. I don't say it's confined to the football world, but in this particular instance we are talking about footballer. Even if a lot of people inside or outside the football world would do what Adebayor has done, it doesn't make his action acceptable or right, imo. If Modric decided to do what Adebayor had done, what do you think the response would be on these forums?

 

[StartingPrice]

I'm not saying my friends do I just mentioned it because I thought you were talking about the football world in regards to wealth. I agree with what you're saying but to balance it out there are humble people from humble backgrounds who are principled. I don't say it's confined to the football world, but in this particular instance we are talking about footballer. Even if a lot of people inside or outside the football world would do what Adebayor has done, it doesn't make his action acceptable or right, imo. If Modric decided to do what Adebayor had done, what do you think the response would be on these forums?

Then, again, you misunderstand.
I am neither trying to say that what he did was right nor that it was justified in any normative sense. I am saying that no-one involved in football, including (or, especially) clubs like Citeh, seem to play by the normal rules. He wasn't, they weren't. In an ideal (Pangolssian) world, I would be agreeing with you 100%. I just don't feel that there is any analogy outside of football that you can give that will equate with the crazy world that football has become.

As far as I am aware, the Modric situation is as different from Adebayor's as chalk is from cheese - I would imagine that if Modric had said that he wouldn't leave WHL unless he were paid x amount of money, he would have a threadbear wallet for quite some time

 

[whitelightwhiteheat]

This is my favourite picture ever.

Is this one real?! Did they actually do this?!

 

[dn013]

Is Adebayor going to start on Saturday?

 

[whitelightwhiteheat]

Is Adebayor going to start on Saturday?

I hope so.

 

[Dare!]

Is this one real?! Did they actually do this?!

Yep, haha.

 

[bigpalacios]

nice pic haha

AVB and Ade look really pleased about the purchase of this bench.

 

[whitelightwhiteheat]

Yep, haha.

Just saw it on the Official Spurs twitter. That's bloody superb! Ha ha!

AVB is just proving to everyone that what they thought about him is complete rubbish. Great sense of humour.

 

[whitelightwhiteheat]

AVB and Ade look really pleased about the purchase of this bench.

Ade just said to AVB:

"Do you think Defoe will find this bench comfortable?"

 

[DEFchenkOE]

Check out avb in his Under Armour creps

 

[Ribble]

AVB and Ade look really pleased about the purchase of this bench.

It's Luka's leaving present, the inscription reads "get used to it".

 

[ItsBoris]

Anyone think that if we get another forward (Leandro), we might see Ade play as a wide forward at times like AVB did with Sturridge last season?

 

[kaz Hirai]

Anyone think that if we get another forward (Leandro), we might see Ade play as a wide forward at times like AVB did with Sturridge last season?

we dont seem to be getting another forward

 

[Berglad]

Anyone think that if we get another forward (Leandro), we might see Ade play as a wide forward at times like AVB did with Sturridge last season?

I think so, and Ade spent a lot of time out on the wings last season anyway.

Goals from the side!

 

[quoteobserverquote]

I don't think we'll see Ade start until after the international break personally. Match fitness and all.