Emmanuel Adebayor (from rumour to DONE)

[Spursking]

YES, YES, YES!! Adebayor!!!

 

[thinktank]

Don't want this 'play when I feel like it' bullshit now ade; we need you to give 100% for every game. Got a feeling AVB will get the best out of him too.

 

[Spursking]

Don't want this 'play when I feel like it' bullshit now ade; we need you to give 100% for every game. Got a feeling AVB will get the best out of him too.

We need some smiles in the squad. He can cheer everyone up, and even teach them an african dance .

 

[DJS]

Wonder what squad number he'll get...?

Probably 25 I guess, shame as him being 10 was kinda cool but I guess VDV wanted it.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

Good news

Shame we've handed 3 points to a Champs League rival already.

We hardly handed it to them. We played pretty well and Newcastle away is tough no matter what squad you have in place. We were unlucky but it was by no means handing them points. Look at United, they'd made their signings in time for Everton game but still lost.

 

[tippspur59]

Glad to see this saga is all over and Ade is back with us,get Modric out now and we will have loads of dosh for another new striker.

 

[Winchy85]

Interesting contract though.

We pay £6m for him for a 4 year deal.
Wages: First 2 years - £160k a week (£80k Tottenham, £80k Man City)
Last 2 years - £80k a week from Tottenham only.

After 2 years he is allowed to speak to any club who will offer the £6m we have paid for him.

Effectively, we have him on a cut price offer on a 2 year contract then he'll be off unless we increase his wages for the same money we've paid for him now.

Clever from Levy!

 

[Mullers]

Here was the deal for City, pay Adebayor off, or have him on £8m p/a sitting in the reserves without even a squad number.

Next TW they're in the same position, but can they command any kind of transfer fee then?

Alternatively they get £5m from us, plus they don't spend £8m next year, and potentially another £8m the season after, £16m in total.

What Ade said to them was, you're saving £21m by making this deal, I want a big slice of that. Even if they give him three quarters of it, they're still saving a massive chunk of money. Who is going to cave in, in that situation? Adebayor, who is happy to sit back and collect his money? Spurs, who have Levy at the helm and will anyway be after other strikers? Or City, who are being bent over a barrel?

I think all three have caved in to an extent, I don't believe that City paid Adebayor the money he was asking for so he caved in there, City caved in over the transfer fee and probably us over the wages. I don't think that city believed that Adebayor was prepared to sit in the reserves all season and I don't believe that he would either.

But if he is the sort of guy who is prepared to sit in the reserves and collect his money then I would strongly suggest that we made a mistake buying him, no matter how low the transfer is. There is a tendency though for fans of all cubs to look past a players imperfections if he's a good enough, Woodgate involved in a racist attack on an Asian student and charged with affray, oh we'll just look past that, he's a good defender, Berbatov behaved liked a twat, oh we'll look past that, great player and his transfer fee is low, etc etc.

 

[StartingPrice]

I think all three have caved in to an extent, I don't believe that City paid Adebayor the money he was asking for so he caved in there, City caved in over the transfer fee and probably us over the wages. I don't think that city believed that Adebayor was prepared to sit in the reserves all season and I don't believe that he would either.

But if he is the sort of guy who is prepared to sit in the reserves and collect his money then I would strongly suggest that we made a mistake buying him, no matter how low the transfer is. There is a tendency though for fans of all cubs to look past a players imperfections if he's a good enough, Woodgate involved in a racist attack on an Asian student and charged with affray, oh we'll just look past that, he's a good defender, Berbatov behaved liked a twat, oh we'll look past that, great player and his transfer fee is low, etc etc.

I'm sure there was some give and take on the matter...though I wouldn't even begin to guess the details.

As Winchy says, looks like a cleverly structured deal.

 

[sloth]

I think all three have caved in to an extent, I don't believe that City paid Adebayor the money he was asking for so he caved in there, City caved in over the transfer fee and probably us over the wages. I don't think that city believed that Adebayor was prepared to sit in the reserves all season and I don't believe that he would either.

But if he is the sort of guy who is prepared to sit in the reserves and collect his money then I would strongly suggest that we made a mistake buying him, no matter how low the transfer is. There is a tendency though for fans of all cubs to look past a players imperfections if he's a good enough, Woodgate involved in a racist attack on an Asian student and charged with affray, oh we'll just look past that, he's a good defender, Berbatov behaved liked a twat, oh we'll look past that, great player and his transfer fee is low, etc etc.

I think he's just the sort of man who knows in a Mexican stand-off who's really got the fire power. City could have pulled the trigger, but Ade felt he had the bullet proof vest on, and they didn't. He made sure they understood that, no blinking, no weakness shown. Once that was conveyed there was only one way it was ever going to end. [/stretched analogy]

I don't think any footballer is different, they all want the most wages their talent can secure. Perhaps for some footballers, who have remained at their home-town club, there's sentiment involved, but for these guys coming from over-seas, sometimes from impoverished parts of the world, football is a means to an end, and I don't see why they should be blamed for that?

In no other walk of life are people blamed for choosing jobs based on who's offering the best deal?

I do think it's different if people have signed a contract, in those circumstances they should honour it. In Adebayor's case he was honouring it, and it was City who wanted to break it, why should he have acted differently?

 

[Mullers]

I think he's just the sort of man who knows in a Mexican stand-off who's really got the fire power. City could have pulled the trigger, but Ade felt he had the bullet proof vest on, and they didn't. He made sure they understood that, no blinking, no weakness shown. Once that was conveyed there was only one way it was ever going to end. [/stretched analogy]

I don't think any footballer is different, they all want the most wages their talent can secure. Perhaps for some footballers, who have remained at their home-town club, there's sentiment involved, but for these guys coming from over-seas, sometimes from impoverished parts of the world, football is a means to an end, and I don't see why they should be blamed for that?

In no other walk of life are people blamed for choosing jobs based on who's offering the best deal?

I do think it's different if people have signed a contract, in those circumstances they should honour it. In Adebayor's case he was honouring it, and it was City who wanted to break it, why should he have acted differently?

Because he wants to play football a profession I assume he cares about and not just a means to an end. He's earned a lot of money I'm pretty sure he's past time of playing football just to earn a living. Let's have a look at Dawson, he's got years on his contract, he's well with in his rights to say I'm not going anywhere, I'd be surprised if QPR are paying him more than we are, even if they are I feel he's going there because he wants to play first and foremost.

Lets take the spurs sentiment out of it for a minute, if you asked people in this forum what they thought of a footballer who'd rather sit in the reserves and collect their money rather than go elsewhere still get well and play, I'd expect the response to be pretty negative towards that player.

 

[Mullers]

I'm sure there was some give and take on the matter...though I wouldn't even begin to guess the details.

As Winchy says, looks like a cleverly structured deal.

With Levy involved I'd expect that to be the case.

 

[sloth]

Because he wants to play football a profession I assume he cares about and not just a means to an end. He's earned a lot of money I'm pretty sure he's past time of playing football just to earn a living. Let's have a look at Dawson, he's got years on his contract, he's well with in his rights to say I'm not going anywhere, I'd be surprised if QPR are paying him more than we are, even if they are I feel he's going there because he wants to play first and foremost.

Lets take the spurs sentiment out of it for a minute, if you asked people in this forum what they thought of a footballer who'd rather sit in the reserves and collect their money rather than go elsewhere still get well and play, I'd expect the response to be pretty negative towards that player.

Of course Adebayor wants to play football. And he'd also like to win things. Glory is important to all of us. The point is that he was prepared to call City's bluff. I'd like to think I'd do the same if I worked out who had the best hand. That's the game, and that's how it works. Yes, it's risk, but that's what life is for.

In this case btw, Ade won. I'm not sure what it is you're saying you dislike, except you think he was playing with too higher stakes, namely his playing career?

 

[Mullers]

Of course Adebayor wants to play football. And he'd also like to win things. Glory is important to all of us. The point is that he was prepared to call City's bluff. I'd like to think I'd do the same if I worked out who had the best hand. That's the game, and that's how it works. Yes, it's risk, but that's what life is for.

In this case btw, Ade won. I'm not sure what it is you're saying you dislike, except you think he was playing with too higher stakes, namely his playing career?

I believe many players wouldn't do what Adebayor and I wouldn't do what he did either. What I dislike is that he was prepared to sit in the reserves and collect his money rather than play. I think that kind of attitude sucks, I hope it doesn't come back to bite us. Mind you shitty did pay him those obscene wages in the first place so I'm not shedding tears for them.

 

[sloth]

I believe many players wouldn't do what Adebayor and I wouldn't do what he did either. What I dislike is that he was prepared to sit in the reserves and collect his money rather than play. I think that kind of attitude sucks, I hope it doesn't come back to bite us. Mind you shitty did pay him those obscene wages in the first place so I'm not shedding tears for them.

He was prepared to call their bluff yes. It's not easy to do, you do have to be strong-willed, and you do have to be prepared to face the consequences if they don't cave in. I admire him for it.

But I think you're opinion is fair enough too.

 

[StartingPrice]

I believe many players wouldn't do what Adebayor and I wouldn't do what he did either. What I dislike is that he was prepared to sit in the reserves and collect his money rather than play. I think that kind of attitude sucks, I hope it doesn't come back to bite us. Mind you shitty did pay him those obscene wages in the first place so I'm not shedding tears for them.

He was prepared to call their bluff yes. It's not easy to do, you do have to be strong-willed, and you do have to be prepared to face the consequences if they don't cave in. I admire him for it.

But I think you're opinion is fair enough too.

At the end of the day, we won't find out - but I think Slothio is right on this. What is more important: whether he was prepared to call Citeh's bluff and sit in the stands on a lucrative contract, taking up a valuable squad place? Or whether he was going to call them by letting them think he was prepared to call Citeh's bluff and sit in the stands on a lucrative contract, taking up a valuable squad place? I would go for the latter. There is no proof that he would have went through with his bluff, so you can't really castigate him for something you aren't sure he would do, but he was prepared to let them think he would to get what he considered to be fair treatment.

Was it ethical? Well, I'm sure you would have to reference through Citeh's behaviour in bullying the Goons out of him <> just because they found a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, paying ridiculous wages that have skewed football even more than it was already, and then jettison almost immediately (knowing he wouldn't get anyone else to pay them ridiculous wages after they have bullied him out of, from his point of view, a perfectly good team, with no way back), because they thought they could buy and discard players willy-nilly due to having found a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. You reap what you sow, eh

 

[Mullers]

He was prepared to call their bluff yes. It's not easy to do, you do have to be strong-willed, and you do have to be prepared to face the consequences if they don't cave in. I admire him for it.

But I think you're opinion is fair enough too.

Being strong willed is great in the right circumstances, hopefully his strong will, will help to have more consistent high level performances for us.

At the end of the day, we won't find out - but I think Slothio is right on this. What is more important: whether he was prepared to call Citeh's bluff and sit in the stands on a lucrative contract, taking up a valuable squad place? Or whether he was going to call them by letting them think he was prepared to call Citeh's bluff and sit in the stands on a lucrative contract, taking up a valuable squad place? I would go for the latter. There is no proof that he would have went through with his bluff, so you can't really castigate him for something you aren't sure he would do, but he was prepared to let them think he would to get what he considered to be fair treatment.

There is no proof he would have gone through on his bluff but the fact that he is telling city he'd be prepared to sit in the reserves and collect his money every week isn't a bargaining chip, I admire and not one I would expect any player worth their salt to use. The people at city know him better than any of us, they obviously felt that there was a realistic possibility that he may go through with his threat, which suggests that don't think too highly of him.

Was it ethical? Well, I'm sure you would have to reference through Citeh's behaviour in bullying the Goons out of him <> just because they found a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, paying ridiculous wages that have skewed football even more than it was already, and then jettison almost immediately (knowing he wouldn't get anyone else to pay them ridiculous wages after they have bullied him out of, from his point of view, a perfectly good team, with no way back), because they thought they could buy and discard players willy-nilly due to having found a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. You reap what you sow, eh

I agree.

 

[Schitzophonic]

ADEBAYOR #25

 

[Berglad]

nice pic haha

 

[Dare!]

This is my favourite picture ever.