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glacierSpurs

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And we see Ronaldo banging in two goals already. Why can't we just spent - on Conte, on Martinez/Vlahovic, on Coutinho, on Pjanic on Traore etc. The returns from such big purchases are so immediate but the few millions Levy saved can never stand the test of time. All fucking short-sightedness from the baldy. I feel like supporting this club is sometimes a big waste of time.

Just fuck off ASAP.
 

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Wonders off the pitch?

He borrows a billion pounds to build a stadium and that makes him a genius?

If he hadn't tinkered and changed plans half way through it wouldn't have been 2 seasons late and cost double the initial cost.

I would respectfully argue that 80% of people on this forum could get a stadium built for a billion quid with zero experience.

I don't buy the narrative he is a genius. He go the job through nepotism not ability.

Imagine if we had a David Dein in charge. Still no naming rights. A poor squad and a poor manager.

The buck stops with him.

Shame its our bucks which our fans will be paying for the next 30 years.

All the while Enic will be counting their cash from being landlords.

Sad.
And let’s not forget. Stadium was late, over budget and had failed to sell the naming rights….yet Levy still voted himself a huge bonus payment on completion.
 

Albertbarich

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You can blame nuno for the tactics yesterday but he is another manager who hasn't been backed.

So many rumours and smoke around the window that just closed. Returning to our DNA, painful rebuild, were going to invest, we want another striker to backup and help kane, its going to be different this year, fabio Friday blah blah blah

It was exactly the same as it always is.

We are desperately desperately short up front. The midfield is lacking just as much too ans only one man will pay for it.

Nuno.

Ans them maybe Paratici.

But the man who hired them both, the man who has overseen constant under achievement a constant lack of success and a constant sea of instability still remains in his job, still is held up by a section of this fanbase as some sort of hero will just carry on with no consequence.

He is here to win trophies. Building pretty stadiums and training grounds is great but primarily we should be succeeding on the pitch.

We're a billion quid in debt for a stadium he still hadn't got a sponsorship deal for which mean he still hasn't opened up his fabled skywalk and now it's a stadium that looks a million years off champions league football.

But this week despite that abomination, despite the fact another manager is now being doubted we will no doubt be tweets about a fucking boxing match as if a football club fanbase gives a shit. If were really lucky we will here about a concert or the NFL. Who needs good football team when we can support the the big version of the O2 arena?

This cycle of under investment, poor decision making , followed by people losing their jobs continues on and on. Pretty boring and predictable.
 

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Lets get real. We are miles off City, Chelsea, United and Liverpool in terms of squad quality and balance. This gap is growing and will continue to grow unless our recruitment policy unearths some real gems like we did 6-7 years ago. We are shopping in a different store to the aforementioned 4 clubs who will always be a more attractive proposition.

I don't entirely blame ENIC as they have never spent their own money to fund the club and this is clear in their mandate, so to expect a reckless spending spree is going to be a pipe dream

The easiest option to close the gap is for ENIC to sell to some rich oil state or some other fool who is prepared to spend £2bn buying us.
 

Albertbarich

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Lets get real. We are miles off City, Chelsea, United and Liverpool in terms of squad quality and balance. This gap is growing and will continue to grow unless our recruitment policy unearths some real gems like we did 6-7 years ago. We are shopping in a different store to the aforementioned 4 clubs who will always be a more attractive proposition.

I don't entirely blame ENIC as they have never spent their own money to fund the club and this is clear in their mandate, so to expect a reckless spending spree is going to be a pipe dream

The easiest option to close the gap is for ENIC to sell to some rich oil state or some other fool who is prepared to spend £2bn buying us.
Thing is though you can still question the decisions.

Replacing Bale and vinicius with a young Spanish kid who looked great in a game against a pub team but clearly the manager doesn't think is ready.

Buying a backup keeper we didn't really need .


Why spend money on two players who wouldn't help straight away when it's clear were so shirt in other areas.

Why do you keep making the wrong choices for managers and face no consequences?

Why is no naming rights deal secured to help fund on pitch activities?

You get my point I'm sure. Yes they're never going to pump in extra but on top of that they (levy) gets it wrong over and over again and is still here making decisions about a sport he appears to be clueless about.

Whilst charging top top dollar for the privilege of watching him do so.
 

dontcallme

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Thing is though you can still question the decisions.

Replacing Bale and vinicius with a young Spanish kid who looked great in a game against a pub team but clearly the manager doesn't think is ready.

Buying a backup keeper we didn't really need .


Why spend money on two players who wouldn't help straight away when it's clear were so shirt in other areas.

Why do you keep making the wrong choices for managers and face no consequences?

Why is no naming rights deal secured to help fund on pitch activities?

You get my point I'm sure. Yes they're never going to pump in extra but on top of that they (levy) gets it wrong over and over again and is still here making decisions about a sport he appears to be clueless about.

Whilst charging top top dollar for the privilege of watching him do so.
Have to disagree with your assessment of Gil. He's already shown a lot of ability. Even experienced players have a bedding in period and we need to go back to buying young, exciting talents.

Lloris' contract is up in a year and he's likely done. A backup keeper who is possibly good enough to be our number one is another good signing.
 

Albertbarich

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Have to disagree with your assessment of Gil. He's already shown a lot of ability. Even experienced players have a bedding in period and we need to go back to buying young, exciting talents.

Lloris' contract is up in a year and he's likely done. A backup keeper who is possibly good enough to be our number one is another good signing.
Not my assessment of gil as I have only seen him play two matches. My point was the manager who picks him doesn't seem like he thinks is ready so if we can't afford much then buy someone who is ready.

And if you think the manager is wrong then it's still on levy as he just hired him.

Hugo deserves a new deal. If he doesn't buy a new keeper next year . Hart was fine as backup.

Point isn't about Individual qualities though , It's about as yesterday showed the squad is short.
 

dontcallme

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Not my assessment of gil as I have only seen him play two matches. My point was the manager who picks him doesn't seem like he thinks is ready so if we can't afford much then buy someone who is ready.

And if you think the manager is wrong then it's still on levy as he just hired him.

Hugo deserves a new deal. If he doesn't buy a new keeper next year . Hart was fine as backup.

Point isn't about Individual qualities though , It's about as yesterday showed the squad is short.
My general point is that many signings take time to settle in and start to perform. The signings of Gil, Gollini etc weren't the problem yesterday.

The signings of Ndombele, Lo Celso and every other misperforming player from the previous seasons is the problem.

Lloris deserves a new deal but at 34 and no sign of a new contract suggest this could be his last season with us.
 

Albertbarich

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My general point is that many signings take time to settle in and start to perform. The signings of Gil, Gollini etc weren't the problem yesterday.

The signings of Ndombele, Lo Celso and every other misperforming player from the previous seasons is the problem.

Lloris deserves a new deal but at 34 and no sign of a new contract suggest this could be his last season with us.
They were the problem if the money spent on them results in forward and midfield areas being short.

If we get nowhere near top four nuno is gone. This squad looks a million miles off top four.
 

dontcallme

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They were the problem if the money spent on them results in forward and midfield areas being short.

If we get nowhere near top four nuno is gone. This squad looks a million miles off top four.
Every team wants a quick fix. It pretty much never happens.

The idea that signing the likes of Gil was the wrong signing if he can't perform straight away is something I just can't agree on.
 

Albertbarich

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Every team wants a quick fix. It pretty much never happens.

The idea that signing the likes of Gil was the wrong signing if he can't perform straight away is something I just can't agree on.
Well you saw the result yesterday.

I hope he turns out to be a superstar but he will be one playing europa conference league if were lucky
 

dontcallme

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Well you saw the result yesterday.

I hope he turns out to be a superstar but he will be one playing europa conference league if were lucky
I did see the game and the result yesterday. I'm as disappointed as anyone. But I believe the right signings aren't always the ones that perform from day one.

Bale, Modric and loads of our top players took time to settle in. Should we not have signed them?
 

Albertbarich

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I did see the game and the result yesterday. I'm as disappointed as anyone. But I believe the right signings aren't always the ones that perform from day one.

Bale, Modric and loads of our top players took time to settle in. Should we not have signed them?
Bale is an interesting one. Signed along with Darren bent another signing we didn't need but broke our transfer record on anyway. How long did that manager last after that?

Modric is a totally different category. He was brought in as a star player and yes he took time to settle mainly as it took redknapp to show a bit of faith in him.

So you're happy to see nuno lose his job , maybe paratici to go through another search, led by the same man in the hope that a young kid from Spain comes good?

And of course its not an either or. But we do live in a results led business. If nuno doesn't get results he gets sacked. I feel the squad is ill prepared woefully for this season so whilst investing in the future is usually great planning the team has to be ready to compete now.

One mini selection crisis and we get smashed 3-0 at Palace. It clearly isn't ready
 

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The frustration is that there appears to be such a big disconnect between words and actions. We are told by the ITKs that not qualifying for the CL is no longer an option but then appoint a negative manager and do not give him the players he wants (Traore).
 

dontcallme

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Bale is an interesting one. Signed along with Darren bent another signing we didn't need but broke our transfer record on anyway. How long did that manager last after that?

Modric is a totally different category. He was brought in as a star player and yes he took time to settle mainly as it took redknapp to show a bit of faith in him.

So you're happy to see nuno lose his job , maybe paratici to go through another search, led by the same man in the hope that a young kid from Spain comes good?

And of course its not an either or. But we do live in a results led business. If nuno doesn't get results he gets sacked. I feel the squad is ill prepared woefully for this season so whilst investing in the future is usually great planning the team has to be ready to compete now.

One mini selection crisis and we get smashed 3-0 at Palace. It clearly isn't ready
Why on earth would I be happy to see Nuno lose his job? How did you even come to that conclusion?

Let's just agree to disagree.
 

glacierSpurs

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There can only be optimism when some tycoon finally buys the club off ENIC and spend proper on the coach and players.

I just want to see exciting football. Fuck the architectural prize of the stadium or being the first match next week playing carbon-neutral or carbon-free.
 

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The frustration is that there appears to be such a big disconnect between words and actions. We are told by the ITKs that not qualifying for the CL is no longer an option but then appoint a negative manager and do not give him the players he wants (Traore).

I think it speaks to delusion at the top rather than anything else. The Traore situation seems evidence of that too when the chairman steps in to offer his expert football advice.
 

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At the end of the window we had a poll whereby the majority of voters on this board gave the window a 7/10 or above.


One single game later and we are back to ENIC out, Levy has failed to back the manager, completely fucked it once again.

Either the majority of our fan base are bi-polar, mood swinging, hyperbolic emos, or they are completely clueless about football. Or both.

I stand by what I said in the thread - I think we have built for the future this summer but things ain't gonna be pretty in the short term.
 

dontcallme

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At the end of the window we had a poll whereby the majority of voters on this board gave the window a 7/10 or above.


One single game later and we are back to ENIC out, Levy has failed to back the manager, completely fucked it once again.

Either the majority of our fan base are bi-polar, mood swinging, hyperbolic emos, or they are completely clueless about football. Or both.

I stand by what I said in the thread - I think we have built for the future this summer but things ain't gonna be pretty in the short term.
I think it's largely a case of there being a lot of posters with different views.

I think we had a good window but wished we'd spent out on 1 more attacking player.

But there were undoubtedly people unhappy with the window and are speaking out against the poor early performances.

I have nothing to suggest that the people unhappy now were happy a month ago.
 

Albertbarich

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At the end of the window we had a poll whereby the majority of voters on this board gave the window a 7/10 or above.


One single game later and we are back to ENIC out, Levy has failed to back the manager, completely fucked it once again.

Either the majority of our fan base are bi-polar, mood swinging, hyperbolic emos, or they are completely clueless about football. Or both.

I stand by what I said in the thread - I think we have built for the future this summer but things ain't gonna be pretty in the short term.
I gave it a 3 or 4 and yesterday vindicates that for me.

Totally ill prepared for a few injuries. Building for the future is fine but this looks to he heading towards another trophyless and another out of the top four unless we have the best luck with Injuries.
 
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