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ohtottenham!
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The nice venue part is definitely true...
Bluto Blutarsky
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Building a winning culture starts at the top.
Levy, and Lewis, are not focused on winning. They are focused on maximizing the return on investment. Those two goals do not have to be mutually exclusive - building a winning team, will also maximize the returns on the investment. But until Levy places a priority on winning - then we will always be a well-run club that does not win.
Levy, and Lewis, are not focused on winning. They are focused on maximizing the return on investment. Those two goals do not have to be mutually exclusive - building a winning team, will also maximize the returns on the investment. But until Levy places a priority on winning - then we will always be a well-run club that does not win.
We all laughed at Arsenal writing off players like Ozil, Abunayang at serious cost to club that's what you do if serious about building team for trophies.
13VanDerBale13
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When Conte does eventually walk, the fans need to unite to get Levy out.
Too many sympathises, who are willing to let this club be a laughing stock …
Too many sympathises, who are willing to let this club be a laughing stock …
dontcallme
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How did they write them off? The extended Ozil’s contract and ended up losing both on frees once their contracts expired.
rossdapep
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Very very good points.
I think the club has gone stale. And that's to be expected to be honest because ENIC and levy have achieved their goals, which was to improve the infrastructure and increase all revenue streams.
A few years back I would get a little excited to see a big sponsorship deal, as I thought it would get us to the next level, but now when they announce them I couldn't give a shit.
ENIC and Levy have exhausted everything. They have done what they needed to. When you've done that, you need to pass the baton on. But they won't.
This club desperately needs new energy.
Imagine if Boehly had taken over Tottenham this summer and then gone on a spending spree with Conte at the helm. Whilst that itself may not be a succesful strategy, I'm sure we'd all be a lot more hopeful and positive about the future as it's clear the new guy wants success.
Look at Newcastle, they have new energy, the entire fan base is buzzing, the future is exciting for them.
Liverpool have won under FSG but when they get bought out it'll be the same, new energy.
We have none of that to look forward to, just the same MO that hasn't proven succesful in terms of trophies.
How can we get excited about that?
For the love of Spurs
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Stale as it is possibly to be. We have a shiny new stadium but can’t hide the stale object that is the football club. ENIC just look tired and done, they could leave on a high with the new stadium and sell and move on with billions profit made but they sit here.
They sort of remind me of the current Tory government, been there for so long they have no real ideas or vision anymore, same faults keeping everything mediocre while everyone waits for them to bugger off. Problem is we know they won’t sell for a resonable price, any buyer will have to massive overpay and that won’t happen.
I find defenders of ENIC at this point a very strange bunch. You can make a strong case that ENIC have done wonders off the pitch and we can thank them for that but there is now limited room for growth and as a football fans it’s all about the football. Their vision is tired and lacks ambition, it also looks outdated. Not being Alan Sugar is a very low bar, the club should aim higher.
Of course ENIC could prove me wrong, spend £150m on 3 top players this Jan while making it clear to Conte they will continue to support him and drive us up the table with constant on field improvements. Doesn’t mean we have to spend huge each window, just until the squad is good enough to compete but right now the noises seem contrary to that they are Levy stuck in his old ways, an old dog unable to learn new tricks. I don’t believe Spurs fans on the whole enjoy the club at the moment, I really don’t.
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carmeldevil
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This sums it all.
Wheeler Dealer
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Its all well and done uniting to get Levy out, but finding a prospective buyer willing to part with £3bn is the bigger challenge. Chelsea, City and Newcastle were on their arse when they were sold for peanuts, we are the finished articles in respect of infrastructure and as such narrows down potential buyers due to cost. We are not at the same level or attractiveness as Chelsea, UTD or Liverpool, who have greater pull for investors and are ore likely to be sold before us. In Chelsea's case this has already happened.
Capocrimini
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We have been so incredibly lucky to have Harry Kane come through the ranks. He is a once in a lifetime talent, and ENIC have let him down massively.
As much as I love Spurs, he needs to leave this summer. I look at Argentina and how litreally every Argentinian on the planet pulled together to will the WC victory to happen for Messi. The closest we've been to that was under Poch and that was in spite of ENICs miserly souless approach to running the club.
Football can not let a player like Kane finish his career with 0 honours. ENIC won't change and will do nothing to secure the clubs or Kanes legacy.
As much as I love Spurs, he needs to leave this summer. I look at Argentina and how litreally every Argentinian on the planet pulled together to will the WC victory to happen for Messi. The closest we've been to that was under Poch and that was in spite of ENICs miserly souless approach to running the club.
Football can not let a player like Kane finish his career with 0 honours. ENIC won't change and will do nothing to secure the clubs or Kanes legacy.
Albertbarich
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Let's be honest, take your Spurs hat off and put yourself in Kane's shoes.
He is arguably Tottenham's greatest ever striker, England's greatest ever striker and he is on course to finish his career without one measly trophy.
If Conte goes and we hear about a project if your Kane you would be out of here like a shot. Be mad not to
Young players too. If you're a top young player why would you come here? We don't pay the best, we don't win anything and we don't sell when bigger clubs come calling
For the love of Spurs
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Young players have the issue of Jose, Nuno and Conte. If we employed a ‘’progressive’’ manager similar to what we had with Poch there would be greater routes for youth into the first team. These managers like z Conte want ready made players but we don’t buy many of them so it doesn’t work.
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I've posted this a couple of times over the past two or three years but the BSoDL some people have always written it off, giving a number of different reasons why this should be discounted. I don't think it should be. It's the closest we have to a genuine, from the horses mouth, admission as to how they operate.
For me, I can't see past the fact that these are words out of his own mouth and the he's a "fan" thing, well, I don't believe that. Not really. When you admit you're 'not particularly keen on football' it's not very credible to assume that he was ever a fan at all. Not in the sense we use it. Maybe he had a passing interest but that's being generous. Of course, he might have become a fan since coming here but again, we don't know, not really. I just can't see past him being a 'fan' within the confines of their philosophy, the philosophy comes first I think. Wether he's a genuine fan or not, at the very least it leaves question marks.
Anyway, this has been ritually ignored by some but if you read those words and still think they aren't marking people's cards given how things are panning out with regard people's attitudes toward him, then I don't know what else to say. ( but i'm sure when I can be arsed i'll find something
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Anyway, once more, there it is, it'll almost certainly be devisive again, decide if it's credible or not, that's up to you. Levy has done some wonderful things with our club and taken us to the point where anything less than true ambition on the pitch is required to go any further, we shouldn't lose sight of that. But for me, he really does need to go.
For me, I can't see past the fact that these are words out of his own mouth and the he's a "fan" thing, well, I don't believe that. Not really. When you admit you're 'not particularly keen on football' it's not very credible to assume that he was ever a fan at all. Not in the sense we use it. Maybe he had a passing interest but that's being generous. Of course, he might have become a fan since coming here but again, we don't know, not really. I just can't see past him being a 'fan' within the confines of their philosophy, the philosophy comes first I think. Wether he's a genuine fan or not, at the very least it leaves question marks.
Anyway, this has been ritually ignored by some but if you read those words and still think they aren't marking people's cards given how things are panning out with regard people's attitudes toward him, then I don't know what else to say. ( but i'm sure when I can be arsed i'll find something
)Anyway, once more, there it is, it'll almost certainly be devisive again, decide if it's credible or not, that's up to you. Levy has done some wonderful things with our club and taken us to the point where anything less than true ambition on the pitch is required to go any further, we shouldn't lose sight of that. But for me, he really does need to go.
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Bluto Blutarsky
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The "problem" is we have not kept an eye on the squad for many years - and I blame Levy for that - he is the man in charge.
An "ideal" transfer window should be 2-3 player in during the summer, and any player in in January if it's a bargain. If we did that, we should be looking at 1 player to challenge for the XI immediately, 1 player who is capable of providing experienced depth, and 1-2 players who will need 1-2 years on loan or bedding in to make an impact.
That would create constant turn-over in the squad to keep it fresh, and improving, with both youth and experience. A nice blend.
What we have needed since the end of the Poch era, is a complete overhaul - and that is expensive. Needing to sign 6-7 players is not a good strategy. And, its rare to see top teams need that many players in.
If we follow Levy's preferred path - young players, then we are a forever project, never destined to reach the ultimate goal. We need to shift some deadwood - even at a loss - and get the level of the XI up to standards, and then start back-filling with younger players. And, I think Paratici has done that - I like Udogie, Sarr, and even Spence as players who can come in over the next couple of seasons and stake a claim for a spot in the XI. In the meantime, players like Romero, Kulusevski, Betancur and Richarlison are ready to contribute now. If Levy just keeps the faith, and we get in a starting caliber CCB, and RWB in January, then our summer transfer window looks a little less daunting.
An "ideal" transfer window should be 2-3 player in during the summer, and any player in in January if it's a bargain. If we did that, we should be looking at 1 player to challenge for the XI immediately, 1 player who is capable of providing experienced depth, and 1-2 players who will need 1-2 years on loan or bedding in to make an impact.
That would create constant turn-over in the squad to keep it fresh, and improving, with both youth and experience. A nice blend.
What we have needed since the end of the Poch era, is a complete overhaul - and that is expensive. Needing to sign 6-7 players is not a good strategy. And, its rare to see top teams need that many players in.
If we follow Levy's preferred path - young players, then we are a forever project, never destined to reach the ultimate goal. We need to shift some deadwood - even at a loss - and get the level of the XI up to standards, and then start back-filling with younger players. And, I think Paratici has done that - I like Udogie, Sarr, and even Spence as players who can come in over the next couple of seasons and stake a claim for a spot in the XI. In the meantime, players like Romero, Kulusevski, Betancur and Richarlison are ready to contribute now. If Levy just keeps the faith, and we get in a starting caliber CCB, and RWB in January, then our summer transfer window looks a little less daunting.
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I know twitter isn't exactly a great advert for rational people however looking at the replies to spurs official account posts shows that there are a huge amount of fans that definitely want Levy and Enic out.
It seems like the level of frustration held about Levy pre Conte is still very much there so if Conte does go then it feels like we will be very much back to levy out chants at games and all social media activity by the club being hijacked by levy out replies. It could get very ugly again but hard to see what sort of trump card levy could play as Poch returning wouldn't be anywhere near enough
It seems like the level of frustration held about Levy pre Conte is still very much there so if Conte does go then it feels like we will be very much back to levy out chants at games and all social media activity by the club being hijacked by levy out replies. It could get very ugly again but hard to see what sort of trump card levy could play as Poch returning wouldn't be anywhere near enough
carmeldevil
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The only way Levy can be forced out is if fans stop going to the games. Chanting Levy Out or posting on Twitter won't have any impact on him.
this thread is a bit ridiculous. It’s literally people including myself posting the same things about ENIC for the last few years again and again with bouts of short optimism when people think lessons may have been learnt.
Lets be clear the last few years lucked out by having a generational striker like Kane fall into ENICs hands on the pitch
without that we would have been a top 6 club at best and that’s what we will be when Kane goes under this lot.
the issue with someone like Levy is ultimately no accountability for dreadful decision after decision.
Even the shiny stadium he gets a lot of credit for was well over budget.
Lets be clear the last few years lucked out by having a generational striker like Kane fall into ENICs hands on the pitch
without that we would have been a top 6 club at best and that’s what we will be when Kane goes under this lot.
the issue with someone like Levy is ultimately no accountability for dreadful decision after decision.
Even the shiny stadium he gets a lot of credit for was well over budget.
Woodham Wanderer
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Financial clout is great but only if you actually use it
sidford
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I wouldn't underestimate the power it does have. Sure it won't make them sell but look at what levy had to do when his Nuno sticking plaster failed, the abuse and discontent was that loud he went and got Conte. While it won't force them out it can lead to some elements of good although even that unfortunately seems to be just a very short term positive step given the noises coming out now.
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