- Jul 12, 2004
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Love how you're saying things as if they're facts.I didn't tone anything down, I said that hes a nice guy in my first two posts yesterday. He is a nice man, shit footballer. People hate him the player, not the man. Sorry if that needed to be said explicitly. Fans hate him, you hear the shit shouted at him at games and on online. It's not because they think hes a bad man, it's because they are sick of his weak performances and the fact hes been part of the last 3 failed regimes.
You are right he did play a lot in the 2016 shambles and was useful from the bench in 2018... 5 years ago. He was decent 5 years ago when he had a bit more mobility as a younger man and still able to move around in midfield. Plus England did have a very weak central midfield during that period. If this thread was 5 years ago I wouldn't be saying he is bad but it's not.
500 games now in his legs and you're still trying to talk about him being able to be coached to be better like there is still some development left , you're the one making shit up.
1. He's a shit footballer. Wrong He's not, he's got over 40 caps for England. He was poor last season when playing through with an injury to help the club you say you support.
2. Fans hate him. Some do yes but anyone who hates a player and shouts abuse is not worthy of being called a fan. Looking at this site, most support him even if they feel as I do that he should only be squad player next season.