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DodgyLasagne

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Watched a bit more earlier today... there's a reason he wasn't bought immediately by big clubs imo. N'Dicka can be heavy footed given his big frame and if you isolate him against a winger or pull him out of position with flicks and one-twos, you can get around him and expose him. This is the downside of playing a massive 6'4" unit out at LCB. I have the same issues with Bastoni, there's a lot of half hearted closeouts where he's just too big and lumbering to really challenge the ball, immediately gets passed around, and now is removed from the play totally. It happened vs. Bayern, Bayer, Dortmund, Barca.

Every defender makes mistakes but this is a built-in limitation of his more than a bunch of errors. Not a dealbreaker obviously as he has some excellent qualities and is usually very quick for his size.

That being said, who a defender is before they join Conte's Spurs can be misleading as he is very concrete with his instructions, directions, and roles for each player. I think our defensive midfielders would be perfect for N'Dicka.

The key for N'Dicka or any CB we buy is that he has to, and I mean 100% no doubt, get a full pre-season here. That should be the #2 priority behind quality, can we get him here for pre-season. It's crucial for us this season.
 

Matecheck

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Having lived in Frankfurt for over 30 years, I have watched Ndicka well over 100 times for Eintracht and I have to say he's an absolute no brainer.

Took to the Bundesliga like a duck to water as a 19 y/o who had never played in a top flight anywhere. Great positioning defensively. Is much faster than he looks because he's a super smooth, fluid mover who never gets beat in a footrace. Very strong in the air, extremely difficult to beat in 1-v-1s, fantastic defender overall. Incredibly cool headed for a youngster, too.

Very strong on the ball, difficult to press the lad. Is good at getting forward and CAN put in a good cross (even played some LB for Frankfurt and did a more than decent job there), though that shouldn't be considered a strength of his game. His passing range is somewhat limited, he's good at short range interchanges (even in the attacking third), but he's no Pirlo when it comes to long range passing/vision or switching flanks.

Provides a serious set piece threat in the air.

Only negative would have nothing to do with him personally, and isn't even a real negative: he would be an even better signing in combination with Filip Kostic. The 2 of them have been playing together on Frankfurts left side for 4 years and know each other "blindly", as the Germans say. Kostic feeding Kane all day long from the left could have broken scoring records.
 

Flobadob

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Watched a bit more earlier today... there's a reason he wasn't bought immediately by big clubs imo. N'Dicka can be heavy footed given his big frame and if you isolate him against a winger or pull him out of position with flicks and one-twos, you can get around him and expose him. This is the downside of playing a massive 6'4" unit out at LCB. I have the same issues with Bastoni, there's a lot of half hearted closeouts where he's just too big and lumbering to really challenge the ball, immediately gets passed around, and now is removed from the play totally. It happened vs. Bayern, Bayer, Dortmund, Barca.

Every defender makes mistakes but this is a built-in limitation of his more than a bunch of errors. Not a dealbreaker obviously as he has some excellent qualities and is usually very quick for his size.

That being said, who a defender is before they join Conte's Spurs can be misleading as he is very concrete with his instructions, directions, and roles for each player. I think our defensive midfielders would be perfect for N'Dicka.

The key for N'Dicka or any CB we buy is that he has to, and I mean 100% no doubt, get a full pre-season here. That should be the #2 priority behind quality, can we get him here for pre-season. It's crucial for us this season.
This is one of the reasons I’ve long felt Gvardiol is the guy for this position for us, but everyone went so wild on Bastoni I assumed he was better than he seemed in his video’s as you can’t really tell much from YouTube video’s. Gvardiol has none of the limitations you list above in my opinion being only 6’0” and he’s rapid, very co-ordinated and balanced. I hope a window of opportunity for us to get him arises but we’re being told it’s very unlikely
 

piedpiper

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Having lived in Frankfurt for over 30 years, I have watched Ndicka well over 100 times for Eintracht and I have to say he's an absolute no brainer.

Took to the Bundesliga like a duck to water as a 19 y/o who had never played in a top flight anywhere. Great positioning defensively. Is much faster than he looks because he's a super smooth, fluid mover who never gets beat in a footrace. Very strong in the air, extremely difficult to beat in 1-v-1s, fantastic defender overall. Incredibly cool headed for a youngster, too.

Very strong on the ball, difficult to press the lad. Is good at getting forward and CAN put in a good cross (even played some LB for Frankfurt and did a more than decent job there), though that shouldn't be considered a strength of his game. His passing range is somewhat limited, he's good at short range interchanges (even in the attacking third), but he's no Pirlo when it comes to long range passing/vision or switching flanks.

Provides a serious set piece threat in the air.

Only negative would have nothing to do with him personally, and isn't even a real negative: he would be an even better signing in combination with Filip Kostic. The 2 of them have been playing together on Frankfurts left side for 4 years and know each other "blindly", as the Germans say. Kostic feeding Kane all day long from the left could have broken scoring records.
This breaks my heart..... when a signing makes touch sense it doesn't often happen. We could have him and Sessegnon bombing down the left like you say he and Kostic did... hopefully Sessegnon goes up a level in the coming season.
 

SpartanSpur

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This is one of the reasons I’ve long felt Gvardiol is the guy for this position for us, but everyone went so wild on Bastoni I assumed he was better than he seemed in his video’s as you can’t really tell much from YouTube video’s. Gvardiol has none of the limitations you list above in my opinion being only 6’0” and he’s rapid, very co-ordinated and balanced. I hope a window of opportunity for us to get him arises but we’re being told it’s very unlikely

I don't think anyone ever thought Gvardiol was actually possible due to his lack of a release clause.
 

Timberwolf

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This breaks my heart..... when a signing makes touch sense it doesn't often happen. We could have him and Sessegnon bombing down the left like you say he and Kostic did... hopefully Sessegnon goes up a level in the coming season.
So far this has been a window of making obvious, sensible transfers so maybe it will actually happen?
 

Flobadob

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I don't think anyone ever thought Gvardiol was actually possible due to his lack of a release clause.
Why is a Gvardiol transfer impossible because of no release clause? Surely Leipzig would sell for a price they deem acceptable. What that price may be is another thing
 

SpartanSpur

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Why is a Gvardiol transfer impossible because of no release clause? Surely Leipzig would sell for a price they deem acceptable. What that price may be is another thing

It's unchartered territory with RB Leipzig with Nkunku and Gvardiol not having release clauses. All the info around it has suggested they will both be priced out of moves this summer and that Gvaridiol especially is happy to stay for another season.

I'm sure if we had press or ITK that a deal was possible everyone would be excited, I just think that's why there was more focus on Bastoni whom we had both of those things on, plus the obvious Conte link.
 

sage

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Why is a Gvardiol transfer impossible because of no release clause? Surely Leipzig would sell for a price they deem acceptable. What that price may be is another thing

Oh they definitely would. Except that price would likely be around the £85m mark.

He's my dream signing, but I've now accepted it's not happening and moved on...
 

Matecheck

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This is one of the reasons I’ve long felt Gvardiol is the guy for this position for us, but everyone went so wild on Bastoni I assumed he was better than he seemed in his video’s as you can’t really tell much from YouTube video’s. Gvardiol has none of the limitations you list above in my opinion being only 6’0” and he’s rapid, very co-ordinated and balanced. I hope a window of opportunity for us to get him arises but we’re being told it’s very unlikely


Gvardiol is definitely not quicker or more agile than NDicka. Despite the 3 inch difference in height
 

DogsOfWar

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If Ndicka is available for the £20 million mark then I'd take it.
He'd be a great alternative to Davies when a big unit is necessary.
I'd then look at moving on Tanganga and Rodon and bringing in a younger CB, like Edwards at Peterborough.
 

Tucker

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If Ndicka is available for the £20 million mark then I'd take it.
He'd be a great alternative to Davies when a big unit is necessary.
I'd then look at moving on Tanganga and Rodon and bringing in a younger CB, like Edwards at Peterborough.
Tanganga and Rodon need to move for their own careers sake as much as anything else. They are both too old to be development players and need to get out and play week in week out. They are both good players, but they aren’t going to fit in here anymore imo.
 

dtxspurs

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If bastoni is now off the table then I reckon this is the kind of deal (price level) we will go for.
I just hope we can wrap it up rather quickly now. Bastoni off the able, Bremer off the table. Time to decide between Torres, Ndicka, whom ever else and get it done.
 

spursfan77

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I just hope we can wrap it up rather quickly now. Bastoni off the able, Bremer off the table. Time to decide between Torres, Ndicka, whom ever else and get it done.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we do now. Need to get the position sorted asap.
 

DogsOfWar

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Tanganga and Rodon need to move for their own careers sake as much as anything else. They are both too old to be development players and need to get out and play week in week out. They are both good players, but they aren’t going to fit in here anymore imo.
I agree, they need to play and are going backwards by not doing so.
The reason I mention Edwards is that I think he's Prem quality already so would happily see him play early cup games whilst he settles in his first season before giving Dier competition next year.
 

Ron Burgundy

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If he's got one year left on his contract, and is half the player set out above, let's just do it - for a player his age, with those attributes and experience, we can't really go far wrong can we?
 

djhotspur

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I just hope we can wrap it up rather quickly now. Bastoni off the able, Bremer off the table. Time to decide between Torres, Ndicka, whom ever else and get it done.
With the price quoted for both and the lo celso deal in the mix, no reason we can’t get them both as it’ll be a net spend of 37m.
I’m pretty sure Torres can play CCB too so can cover dier.
 

Aphex

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Less than 3 weeks until our preseason starts. You'd like to think we'd hear more movement very soon on us signing a LCB and attacker. Both key positions, particularly LCB.
 
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