Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[Push & Run]

A lot of people are talking about tactics and formations which can be seen from first half evidence makes not a jot of difference if our basic skills are poor. I will exempt ED from this who I thought was brilliant, but basic control skills were poor, weight of passing and accuracy poor and competing for the ball against hungry young players poor. This really needs to be addressed as against better sides than Leeds we cannot afford to give the ball away on a regular basis as first half. Second half was totally better but should it take a bollocking to do that which should be natural?
Still like a lot of what I see, an example of which is throw ins, where the ball is thrown into space for the player to run on to rather than very short to feet creating no space to use, and defenders passing forward to players in midfield coming deep rather than played tight wide. Lots of promise, may long it continue

 

[djhotspur]

A lot of people are talking about tactics and formations which can be seen from first half evidence makes not a jot of difference if our basic skills are poor. I will exempt ED from this who I thought was brilliant, but basic control skills were poor, weight of passing and accuracy poor and competing for the ball against hungry young players poor. This really needs to be addressed as against better sides than Leeds we cannot afford to give the ball away on a regular basis as first half. Second half was totally better but should it take a bollocking to do that which should be natural?
Still like a lot of what I see, an example of which is throw ins, where the ball is thrown into space for the player to run on to rather than very short to feet creating no space to use, and defenders passing forward to players in midfield coming deep rather than played tight wide. Lots of promise, may long it continue

I agree with everything your are saying and we really should be better than we were. I do think we constantly lacked an out ball in midfield though. Our wingbacks had no option in field and there was a huge disconnect between our midfield and attack. An extra body in midfield who can control and beat a press like a lo celso or ndombele would make a big bit of difference I think.

 

[PLTuck]

I did enjoy him demanding more from the crowd once we were 2-1 up after booing at half time in his first home game (which personally I find disgraceful)

 

[ralphs bald spot]

A lot of people are talking about tactics and formations which can be seen from first half evidence makes not a jot of difference if our basic skills are poor. I will exempt ED from this who I thought was brilliant, but basic control skills were poor, weight of passing and accuracy poor and competing for the ball against hungry young players poor. This really needs to be addressed as against better sides than Leeds we cannot afford to give the ball away on a regular basis as first half. Second half was totally better but should it take a bollocking to do that which should be natural?
Still like a lot of what I see, an example of which is throw ins, where the ball is thrown into space for the player to run on to rather than very short to feet creating no space to use, and defenders passing forward to players in midfield coming deep rather than played tight wide. Lots of promise, may long it continue

nothing much to do with poor passing in the first half it was completely down to the tactics - everything was so deep it was so negative it gave Leeds control of the game - we couldn't compete or get a foothold on the game because there was no out balls. The second half was better almost just because we pushed the full backs much higher up the pitch which pulled them deeper and gave us some options to build some play. Your right about a better side or a side set up differently because if Leeds had decided to kill the game and hit us on the break we might have struggled . Conte did well in the second half but the first half was appalling, I think we have to start games on the front foot because as you say better sides you aint coming back

 

[ralphs bald spot]

I did enjoy him demanding more from the crowd once we were 2-1 up after booing at half time in his first home game (which personally I find disgraceful)

what did you want the crowd to do cheer them off at half time ? Maybe without the booing it would be more of the same I don't boo myself but I could understand why

 

[dontcallme]

what did you want the crowd to do cheer them off at half time ? Maybe without the booing it would be more of the same I don't boo myself but I could understand why

Not cheer but personally, I'd rather they refrain from booing in the manager's first home game. The performance wasn't bad enough for that level of booing IMO.

 

[Jamturk]

Not cheer but personally, I'd rather they refrain from booing in the manager's first home game. The performance wasn't bad enough for that level of booing IMO.

It's counterproductive.

Indicative of the way society seems to be going these days.

 

[Dougal]

Not cheer but personally, I'd rather they refrain from booing in the manager's first home game. The performance wasn't bad enough for that level of booing IMO.

It wasn’t the first half performance. It was the culmination of our recent performances and indeed the last couple of years. A reminder from the fans to the players that they can’t hide behind another new manager and have played a huge part of the slide we’ve been on. Spurs fans are fed up. The team has been getting away with too much for too long. I don’t boo myself but with Nuno’s Lucas sub and the reaction yesterday then just maybe it is sometimes warranted. Pretty sure Conte agrees.

 

[myhartlane]

For some reason, when fans were calling for Conte I thought they were being delusional and foolish. Now I am happy to admit that I was the fool. I am in love with the man.
Well done to those who applied the requite pressure on ENIC to take the plunge. I salute you! ??

 

[dontcallme]

It wasn’t the first half performance. It was the culmination of our recent performances and indeed the last couple of years. A reminder from the fans to the players that they can’t hide behind another new manager and have played a huge part of the slide we’ve been on. Spurs fans are fed up. The team has been getting away with too much for too long. I don’t boo myself but with Nuno’s Lucas sub and the reaction yesterday then just maybe it is sometimes warranted. Pretty sure Conte agrees.

Fair points but given it was Conte's first home game in charge I'd rather they didn't boo at half time.

But these fans are making a money and time commitment that I'm not willing to, so I won't criticise them. I'd have just preferred they didn't boo at half time on this occasion.

 

[Aphex]

Not cheer but personally, I'd rather they refrain from booing in the manager's first home game. The performance wasn't bad enough for that level of booing IMO.

The performance was that bad. It was awful. As bad as anything we’ve seen in years, we barely strung a pass together in their half, not a single shot on goal.

Second half was like a different side.

Major surgery is still required, I need to see some actual good footballers brought into the club over the next two windows before I’ll believe we can properly challenge. We better give him the tools, I think we will.

 

[Dougal]

Fair points but given it was Conte's first home game in charge I'd rather they didn't boo at half time.

But these fans are making a money and time commitment that I'm not willing to, so I won't criticise them. I'd have just preferred they didn't boo at half time on this occasion.

Yep, Conte’s first game. But not the first game for the majority of people there. He knows he has a job on his hands. And now the players have been reminded they do too. It’s the fans way of showing the passion Conte demands. He was also spot on to demand it from the fans when we were winning. But we were probably just waiting for a late fuck up.

 

[dontcallme]

Yep, Conte’s first game. But not the first game for the majority of people there. He knows he has a job on his hands. And now the players have been reminded they do too. It’s the fans way of showing the passion Conte demands. He was also spot on to demand it from the fans when we were winning. But we were probably just waiting for a late fuck up.

Sure, but when you boo then it's going to taken as directed at the players and the manager.

Reading LeGin's post suggests it was pretty vitriolic. I don't personally think the performance warranted that level, especially at half time.

 

[Dougal]

Sure, but when you boo then it's going to taken as directed at the players and the manager.

Reading LeGin's post suggests it was pretty vitriolic. I don't personally think the performance warranted that level, especially at half time.

If anyone was stupid enough to think the booing was directed at the manager then I won’t waste my time trying to explain otherwise. As I say, the individual performance didn’t warrant the reaction. But that wasn’t what the reaction was about.

 

[Noryid]

Get him to sign Vlahovic, and I would be pleased for the foreseeable future

 

[spursfan77]

For all the euphoria the first half was terrible the tactics were awful passive and a continuation of what we had seen under the last two managers if not worse.

The second half he pushed the full backs much higher up the pitch which made it more difficult for Leeds to press and dominate, the two wide centre halfs both were braver and pushed on, I thought Davies was pretty good . The midfield is almost vacated in the system (Hojberg yesterday goal apart had a stinker which didn't help) and used to recycle the ball which I don't like much but

I think there needs to be more interplay in the team which might come and given that he is asking for vastly different combinations than previously and judging by yesterday the wide two wide centre backs need to have a big understanding with their full backs both going forward and defensively and that seems a huge part of his game plan (pretty much what Sheffield United did isn't it) . I think against a better side you would be picked off and struggle to pick up meaningful posession but you can only play against the team your up against and its early days yet

I think overall yesterday a 6 or 7 out of ten he had to change things and he did nothing earth shattering was needed and Leeds are a good side to change things against they only play one way and that helped Tottenham yesterday other sides might have been more inclined to sit back and pick us off after taking a lead but not them. The changes allowed us to push them back and they weren't able to dominate like they did in the first half . As we all know there is lots of work for him to do

Yeah I agree. I was happy we won yesterday obviously but I left the stadium just saying "I want going to Spurs just to be fun again". Let's hope he can get us to that because yesterday felt miles away from it despite the victory. There was no excuse for starting the game so badly yesterday. From the kick off we gave them the ball straight away and were on the back foot. It reminded me of the Leverkusen game at Wembley in the CL where Jan gave them the ball from our kick off and we never recovered. Tanganga did the same thing yesterday but fortunately we turned it around.

 

[spursfan77]

It wasn’t the first half performance. It was the culmination of our recent performances and indeed the last couple of years. A reminder from the fans to the players that they can’t hide behind another new manager and have played a huge part of the slide we’ve been on. Spurs fans are fed up. The team has been getting away with too much for too long. I don’t boo myself but with Nuno’s Lucas sub and the reaction yesterday then just maybe it is sometimes warranted. Pretty sure Conte agrees.

It is quite amazing it needs explaining to people.

 

[Danfunkel]

Why did he get changed into his training gear? ?

He makes them do a post game double session. Tough bastard.

 

[Nayim60yards]

Why did he get changed into his training gear? ?

He must have sweated up the suit and shirt with the amount of running around he was doing and didn't want to face the media with it on.

 

[Rusta81]

Still not sure about the 3-4-3 formation.

The main tactic was to find Moura in the middle to get past the press, play some quick passes with the front three & the WB's bombing forwards providing width.
The front three are way to similar in positions as shown in the image below and often trying to dribble past the teammates, ffs. A few times when Kane received the ball Moura was in his fucking way, and even a few times Son & Moura just stood watching not moving at all for Kane to find a pass. Moura & Son are not exactly intelligent players and in that 3-4-3 system we need that.

It really didn't work against Leeds as they man-marked our front three and pressed the shit out of us, they were right up our heels all the time.

It was mostly Dier finding those passes with the help of the CM's which I think doesn't do enough in that system (and no I dont think it's only because they're bad). They're playing like holding CM's with a clear goal to win the ball back or protect the back three when one of the wide-CB's goes forward. And often they were like forwards going in the way of the other.

As for the CB's. The middle spot with Dier is very clear, always look for a pass and even trying to run with the ball to do it. I like that a lot and Dier had a very good game. The wide-cbs have to have a bit more to them - else we just need better players - but mosly they're not doing much and when I watch us play, they're never in the spotlight. They need to be more brave with the ball and agressive off the ball imo.

Worked better second half tho ?, Leeds press everyone the same. We out played them and out fought them in the second half which was good to see.