Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[Tony-Bish]

I love how Trix made a post about there being positive noises and to keep our fingers crossed but everyone’s still doom posting as if Conte already has his belongings in a cardboard box ready to fuck off.

I’m not in the know but I can read body language and energy, what I see is Conte being in no rush to sign, why would he.

To him he wants to be happy, if at the end (or near) of his contract he is still happy, he’ll sign a new one, he will have his requests, if the club can meet them he will be happy and there fore stay. Its not about the momey for him.

He wants to win trophies, if he believes thats possible and can see the club improving and listening to him, he is happy and will likely sign a new deal. Theres no reason for him to sign one now, especially before the transfer window. If things continue to go well he’ll stay, if they don’t or he’s unhappy he’ll leave. Lets get behind him and see what he can do. Lets support him, the team and levy. Bring positive noise to the pitch and give energy to the players . Life is short, dont spend it moaning, what are you grateful for? Levy has transformed this club. Rome wasn’t built in a day. Things are moving forward. Good vibes, good energy, believe. Dare. Dream. Do.

its late, I’m tired, apologies for the poor grammar.

Love you all, happy holidays.

 

[SpursSince1980]

Really frustrates me seeing people with no patience with Conte and the way he plays. Are you really expecting us to play great football with the likes of Dier, Davies, Royal in our starting 11? The most frustrating thing is our brain dead board seem to have the same impatience when we’re probably 2-3 players away from being an incredible side. Just a signing like Porro for RWB and Perisic continuing his World Cup form and fitness would see us be a far more dangerous prospect. You have to understand how important the wingbacks being productive and the wide CB’s being ball players is to the way Conte plays. We’re lacking massively in the CB and wingback positions right now, if we get them sorted I would be genuinely shocked if we didn’t start to play some great football.

Take some time and watch how his Inter side played out from the back and tell me that’s not fantastic football. Conte is NOT the problem, our thick as pig shit board and some of the players we have are the problem

You know what frustrates me? Hearing stories about fuckery in the background from Levy and then wondering why the hell is Conte staying put? I still can’t wrap my head around why a guy who has shown zero tolerance for being bullshitted to, and prioritizes principle over money, hasn‘t bolted and left behind a flaming turd in Levy’s office. ITK seem unanimously aligned that all is a mess and Levy has messed about, and yet the the world’s most notorious manager for having a zero tolerance policy for liars, is still showing up to work like nothing is happening. Boggling. I can only hope that maybe some of the unpleasantness is exaggerated and that Lewis or his daughter is stepping in to calm the waters.

EDIT: missed the post from Trix that now there’s apparently positive signals behind the scenes. That’s a relief.

 

[SpursSince1980]

Yeah I do think there are some fans who seem unable to separate the "business Levy" from the "football Levy" and act like he's the worst chairman in football history for some of his football decisions.

"Business Levy" is about as good as it gets, chairman-wise. What he's done for the club is remarkable.

"Football Levy" is...all over the place. He's made a huge mish-mash of good, bad, lucky and absolutely laughable decisions that, overall, have taken us up the league but have also cost us good managers, players and held us back at key moments. I'd still say he's done better than a lot of other chairmen - usually due to good appointments beneath him who made good footballing decisions for him - but I can certainly understand the frustration from fans and I think it's time he steps away.

Given our current position, with the stadium and training ground secured and our long term finances in a good place, I don't see why Levy needs to have any football input at all tbh. He should negotiate a budget and then just leave it to Paratici and Conte to get on with it. And when it comes to picking a new manager, he should only have a limited say as a board member, rather that being the king maker. He needs to step away from that side now - he's had his time.

Great post, mate! ?

 

[Styopa]

People get way too hung up about Conte’s contract situation. For a start just because he signs a new contract doesn’t mean he won’t leave if he’s not happy. Secondly, we usually end drawing the short stick with these contracts. I mean we must have spent tens of millions to sack Poch and Mourinho because they were in contract.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

You know what frustrates me? Hearing stories about fuckery in the background from Levy and then wondering why the hell is Conte staying put? I still can’t wrap my head around why a guy who has shown zero tolerance for being bullshitted to, and prioritizes principle over money, hasn‘t bolted and left behind a flaming turd in Levy’s office. ITK seem unanimously aligned that all is a mess and Levy has messed about, and yet the the world’s most notorious manager for having a zero tolerance policy for liars, is still showing up to work like nothing is happening. Boggling. I can only hope that maybe some of the unpleasantness is exaggerated and that Lewis or his daughter is stepping in to calm the waters.

EDIT: missed the post from Trix that now there’s apparently positive signals behind the scenes. That’s a relief.

You are getting yourself all in a Tizz based on hearsay ad speculative stories. Conte isn't going to publicly discuss his contract position, neither will Levy. We just have to hope that they are all moving in the right direction that delivers the best outcome for the club.

 

[Vdvaart80]

People get way too hung about Conte’s contract situation. For a start just because he signs a new contract doesn’t mean he won’t leave if he’s not happy. Secondly, we usually end drawing the short stick with these contracts. I mean we must have spent tens of millions to sack Poch and Mourinho because they were in contract.

Agree with this! Actually prefer Conte to have a rolling short-term contracts. As long as we are progressing and as fans we get behind the team and Conte then the pressure is on the board to make the right investments in the team.

This keeps the board in its toes and avoids them getting too comfortable.

 

[dudu]

You know what frustrates me? Hearing stories about fuckery in the background from Levy and then wondering why the hell is Conte staying put? I still can’t wrap my head around why a guy who has shown zero tolerance for being bullshitted to, and prioritizes principle over money, hasn‘t bolted and left behind a flaming turd in Levy’s office. ITK seem unanimously aligned that all is a mess and Levy has messed about, and yet the the world’s most notorious manager for having a zero tolerance policy for liars, is still showing up to work like nothing is happening. Boggling. I can only hope that maybe some of the unpleasantness is exaggerated and that Lewis or his daughter is stepping in to calm the waters.

EDIT: missed the post from Trix that now there’s apparently positive signals behind the scenes. That’s a relief.

I think there is always exaggeration when it comes to what is going on in the background to some degree. Not from the ITKs per se as they are just passing on what they hear in good faith. But sometimes things sound like they are playing out like an episode of Succession or something when things could be much less dramatic.

 

[Japhet]

Agree with this! Actually prefer Conte to have a rolling short-term contracts. As long as we are progressing and as fans we get behind the team and Conte then the pressure is on the board to make the right investments in the team.

This keeps the board in its toes and avoids them getting too comfortable.

Conte is playing Levy like a big old fish on the end of his line. One minute reeling him in with 'I'm happy at Spurs' and next minute letting him back out a bit by not committing (unless he's backed). It's quite masterful really with Levy's reputation and he really has him backed into a corner right now. If Levy cocks it up there'll be hell to pay and Conte knows it.

 

[SpursSince1980]

I think there is always exaggeration when it comes to what is going on in the background to some degree. Not from the ITKs per se as they are just passing on what they hear in good faith. But sometimes things sound like they are playing out like an episode of Succession or something when things could be much less dramatic.

Would love to see a parody of Spurs done Succession style.

 

[SpursSince1980]

You are getting yourself all in a Tizz based on hearsay ad speculative stories. Conte isn't going to publicly discuss his contract position, neither will Levy. We just have to hope that they are all moving in the right direction that delivers the best outcome for the club.

Not really. Our amazing insiders are usually well ahead of the curve on these stories. So, it isnt really fully speculative is it? Or hearsay. As I wouldn’t attribute either of those terms to the kindly folks who share what is really happening behind the scenes. Im not basing my comments on the media. But on our ITK, who seemed genuinely concerned and frustrated.

However, latest info seems that maybe positive moves inching in the right direction. Happy days. I think. Hope.

(loved the use of ‘Tizz’ btw. That was dope!)

 

[dudu]

Would love to see a parody of Spurs done Succession style.

I'm sure a great script could be carved out of the ENIC thread

 

[newbie]

It’s Xmas Come on levy buy Conte a few new players and conte sign a contract

 

[Gilzeanking]

Daft BBC headline 'Conte to rest all his World Cup stars'. Kane says hello for starters.

Odd to see such blatant clickbait from Auntie..

 

[wpmcg]

Daft BBC headline 'Conte to rest all his World Cup stars'. Kane says hello for starters.

Odd to see such blatant clickbait from Auntie..

Think it means those that played the last weekend.

 

[DSpurs]

Maybe the headline has been edited, but it says 'may' rest now.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

I’ve seen the quotes & surely the players that were at the WC, will be are the peak fitness levels, having played regular competitive games.

Conte is suggesting the opposite & the players who stayed at home, are at better conditions ??‍

I think Perisic will be the only doubt tomorrow from those at WC.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Is the intensity of international football so low that players lose conditioning that quickly, or is this criticism of the players' behaviour after the competition, like Pep saying Philips had got fat?

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Is the intensity of international football so low that players lose conditioning that quickly, or is this criticism of the players' behaviour after the competition, like Pep saying Philips had got fat?

I would guess in this particular tournament, players did very little fitness training and more tactical work - given there was no pre-tourney camp, and most players came into the tournament match fit.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

I would guess in this particular tournament, players did very little fitness training and more tactical work - given there was no pre-tourney camp, and most players came into the tournament match fit.

they played plenty of matches though and we're always told that no amount of training makes up for playing actual games.

 

[dudu]

they played plenty of matches though and we're always told that no amount of training makes up for playing actual games.

That is for match fitness sure but id imagine players still need to be at a certain level of actual fitness before they can be match ready