Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[glacierSpurs]

But you can understand that reluctance. Maybe a safe pair of hands and a little stability with a fan’s favourite is what we need now.?‍

But that is also why we are never stable. Because in 12-18 months we could be rocking again - the roots or foundation never grow deep enough and then they got pulled up again.

 

[Impspur1]

But that is also why we are never stable. Because in 12-18 months we could be rocking again - the roots or foundation never grow deep enough and then they got pulled up again.

Can’t argue with that. Not sure what the answer to our clubs problems is anymore. We are so close but mismanagement just keeps us treading water.

 

[McFlash]

Don't think I can even bring myself to care who the next manager will be now, it's going to be the same shit all over again.
Bounce from one manager to the next, one philosophy to the next, all while not having the drive to see any of them through to the end game.
We're stuck in an unending cycle until Levy gets the heck away from football matters.
(And I say this as someone who has always backed Levy and made excuses for him until very recently).

 

[MightySpurs]

In disbelief after seeing Herc's info. We are still in the FA Cup and CL, 5th in the league still with plenty of games to go. Granted the performances have been shit, but not like we are in danger of relegation. What is hoping the new manager can do, can still be possibly done with Conte as well. Yes, I know the performance is shit, again, but .... argh. This is such poor planning and make us out of another joke again with no manager lasting a full season for 3 consecutive seasons. Leave Conte to finish this season for fuck sake.

What Herc info?

 

[glacierSpurs]

Don't think I can even bring myself to care who the next manager will be now, it's going to be the same shit all over again.
Bounce from one manager to the next, one philosophy to the next, all while not having the drive to see any of them through to the end game.
We're stuck in an unending cycle until Levy gets the heck away from football matters.
(And I say this as someone who has always backed Levy and made excuses for him until very recently).

Exactly. All problems lead to Levy, and once again he is deflecting away, from the takeover news as well, with rumours and whispers of a new manager coming in to give something for the fans to cheer in short term.

 

[jpascavitz]

In disbelief after seeing Herc's info. We are still in the FA Cup and CL, 5th in the league still with plenty of games to go. Granted the performances have been shit, but not like we are in danger of relegation. What is hoping the new manager can do, can still be possibly done with Conte as well. Yes, I know the performance is shit, again, but .... argh. This is such poor planning and make us out of another joke again with no manager lasting a full season for 3 consecutive seasons. Leave Conte to finish this season for fuck sake.

Despite the disagreement ratings - I agree with you. I didn't think much of the Mourinho firing right before the cup final, but some on here and on Twitter blame Levy for firing him at our shot at the cup, which hindsight is everything imo.

There's still a lot to play for and we have one the easiest schedule remaining in the top 6. If the team got focused and grinded some results like last season, there's no reason we can't make a run in a cup and challenge for top 4.

We score the third most in the league and give up as many as some of the worst. Does Poch and his tactics change that? We may look a little better on the eye, but feel results will be mostly the same.

 

[glacierSpurs]

What Herc info?

Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

I just hope he recovers fully. Best to him and his family whatever his future relationship to Spurs may be.

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[only1waddle]

He is obviously aware and sensitive to the criticism. Remember his "we have unfinished business" interview prior to Nuno? The reference to spend and how we have been to x finals and y semi-finals under his tenure in response to THST? What's more odd is that he doesn't stop and think "am I the asshole?" before cracking on in exactly the same asshat way. Incidentally "am I the asshole" is a superb read. Google search it. The guy who brought pizza to a party and then ate it all himself is my favourite.

I actually typed "doesn't realise he's the wanker" and deleted it..!

 

[MightySpurs]

If he wasnt ex chelsea i'd 100% want him. But the ex-chelsea manager thing is just getting a bit weird now and should be stopped.

Come on, at one point we have to hit the nail with them

 

[MightySpurs]

Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

I just hope he recovers fully. Best to him and his family whatever his future relationship to Spurs may be.

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Thank you mate

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

I suppose I don’t know what a Conte signing looks like if Perisic isn’t one. Is it literally just when Conte gets his number 1 target in all of world football?

There’s no way we signed Perisic without Conte being very enthusiastic at the very least.

I’m trying to differentiate between Perisic being the one Conte wanted and Perisic being the one Conte wanted under the committee’s constraints, you’re not hearing me or don’t want to so we’ll leave it at that rather that these pointless endless circles…

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

Poch is not a mess, it’s only a problem if he’s not given the money conte has had and if he refuses to work with a DOF. If both conditions are met then we are cooking and no one else is better suited to the club

 

[glacierSpurs]

Despite the disagreement ratings - I agree with you. I didn't think much of the Mourinho firing right before the cup final, but some on here and on Twitter blame Levy for firing him at our shot at the cup, which hindsight is everything imo.

There's still a lot to play for and we have one the easiest schedule remaining in the top 6. If the team got focused and grinded some results like last season, there's no reason we can't make a run in a cup and challenge for top 4.

We score the third most in the league and give up as many as some of the worst. Does Poch and his tactics change that? We may look a little better on the eye, but feel results will be mostly the same.

Result wise we can have another discussion IMHO, of course he's not blameless. But for all the sufferings he has had physically and emotionally in his time with us, he deserves at least his season to end it proper if that is the intention. No? Really have no idea why some fans and club could bear to end it if he's not calling quits. Have some compassion for goodness sake. Does anyone really thinks he likes losing?

For some who are saying they are writing off this season already, what difference does it make for Conte to stay on and not achieving anything comes end of season?

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Spurs announcing that stellini taking over first team duties and contes Instagram post doesn’t suggest to me that anything is imminent re them leaving.

Agree. Personally I think it is what it is. Not everything is a drama.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Result wise we can have another discussion IMHO, of course he's not blameless. But for all the sufferings he has had physically and emotionally in his time with us, he deserves at least his season to end it proper if that is the intention. No? Really have no idea why some fans and club could bear to end it if he's not calling quits. Have some compassion for goodness sake. Does anyone really thinks he likes losing?

For some who are saying they are writing off this season already, what difference does it make for Conte to stay on and not achieving anything comes end of season?

There is everything to play for this season. We are 2 points of 4th ffs. I dunno why some fans like drama and disruption so much. Personally I’m tired of it. I would rather we stuck with Conte and backed him through the bad patches.

 

[jolsnogross]

We should turn the page on this chapter and have an amicable agreement to end Conte's reign and let Stellini finish out the season. A possible short term benefit is tactical ingenuity from the caretakers that could turn things round a bit

 

[jolsnogross]

There is everything to play for this season. We are 2 points of 4th ffs. I dunno why some fans like drama and disruption so much. Personally I’m tired of it. I would rather we stuck with Conte and backed him through the bad patches.

That ship sailed long ago. If the fanbase wasn't going to back Poch through a rough patch, I don't know why anyone would think they'd back the managers after him, who haven't achieved a fraction of what Poch did at Spurs.

 

[jackson]

If/When Conte goes, we need to return to the roots of what has actually worked for us. Get a manager who plays attacking football and is willing to coach young players with high potential, even if they’re not the finished article.

Then we need to sit and give them 2-3 years at least. I know others will say that we need to spend more than we have recently etc but I don’t actually think that’s true, I think we just need to spend more intelligently and have a stable footballing philosophy within the club, rather than lurching from style to style with new coaches each year.

That model is what worked for us with Poch. It’s what’s working now for Arsenal with Arteta. I don’t think there is such a thing as “win now” managers in the Premier League when they’re up against world class coaches like Pep and Klopp who’ve spent half a decade shaping their clubs in their image.

I think our recruitment since Paratici came in has been pretty good. We’ve had some transfers that clearly haven’t worked, but even then I think you can see what the idea was. Emerson would’ve been a perfectly good defensive RB for Nuno. Gil clearly has buckets of talent. Bissouma was one of the best CMs in the league even if it hasn’t worked out for us yet.

It’s hard to win things in England right now with the money and talent we’ve got accumulated here now. But I really think if we can stick with a plan like this we’ll have a good shot and at the very least, we’ll see some better football than we have for a long time.

I do agree to an extent but the problem is you also need to lower people's expectations in the short-medium term. People are too concerned with being bantered by some prick they know or randoms on Twitter, in the media etc to see it out.

We'd need a fa/league cup to cling on to in the meantime to ride the inevitable waves while this squad gets rebuilt and accustomed to a new style of play. Without that fa cup Arteta probably gets hounded out before now.

People go on about attacking football being all they want to see but I would wager what most really want is winning football, no one was happy when we used to dominate possession but struggle to break teams down, shuffling it side to side, and get caught on the break and lose 1-0 to Fulham, Burnley etc.

The issue is we're in a position where we've come so far but can't take the next step, we probably do need to take a step back to go forwards again but I don't think the masses have the appetite for it and levy probably won't facilitate what really needs to happen in order to do so.

At the moment Levy probably thinks this squad can be coached out of this and win by bringing Poch back in, which is delusional, same as it was that Jose/Conte would coach it into winners.

The style of play isn't the reason we're shit it's our inability to effectively carry out a game plan, by being good at what we do on a consistent basis.

 

[Westmorlandspur]

Only problem with Poch is signing players. If he is prepared to work with Paratici if he is still here, or his replacement, let’s give it a go. The football has been shite for the most part since he went. if we can’t win trophies let’s enjoy the football.
will he want to keep Ndombele.

 

[Russ1201]

How long before "We have mutually agreed to terminate Antonio's contract as he takes the time needed to recover. Ryan Mason will assume first team duties for the remainder of the season. We wish Antonio well."?

Exactly what I was thinking and guess who be the next manager for the new season. Don't think we need a crystal ball to see Levy's plans.