Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[delawarespur]

I wish Levy would go but because he wont be this is the lesson to take.

This football club should never ever hire a coach simply because they are winner.

But more importantly they should never hire a coach that goes against our ethos.

Having watched Fonseca's last 2 games at Lille, I'm certain we would have seen some very good performances and had Fonseca gone into bad form or failed with objectives, the switch to the next coach would have been smoother.

We would have obtained a group of players that would have more or less suited the next coach.

By going to Jose, who wanted very technically limited players like Doherty/Hojbjerg, to Nuno, who just let Paratici do what he wanted to Conte, who needs very specific system players such as Perisic, we have accumulated a real mish mash of players.

Wait til Reguillon, Winks, Ndombele and Lo Celso return!

I believe we do have a nucleus there for a high intensity press coach but we also have about 10 players who are not going to suit that so will need a major clear out.

Had we not gone down that route, a proper Tottenham coach would likely just 1 or 2 windows to get it right.

A million times over. A clubs ethos/plan overrides every single manager alive. You first have to decide on what you want to be, get everyone to commit, and then there can be a seamless transition between coaches and players. Don’t ever stray from that ethos and eventually the continuity will lead to success. It’s just so frustrating that I have zero faith in those in charge to create the necessary environment.

 

[dannythomas]

I wish Levy would go but because he wont be this is the lesson to take.

This football club should never ever hire a coach simply because they are winner.

But more importantly they should never hire a coach that goes against our ethos.

Having watched Fonseca's last 2 games at Lille, I'm certain we would have seen some very good performances and had Fonseca gone into bad form or failed with objectives, the switch to the next coach would have been smoother.

We would have obtained a group of players that would have more or less suited the next coach.

By going to Jose, who wanted very technically limited players like Doherty/Hojbjerg, to Nuno, who just let Paratici do what he wanted to Conte, who needs very specific system players such as Perisic, we have accumulated a real mish mash of players.

Wait til Reguillon, Winks, Ndombele and Lo Celso return!

I believe we do have a nucleus there for a high intensity press coach but we also have about 10 players who are not going to suit that so will need a major clear out.

Had we not gone down that route, a proper Tottenham coach would likely just 1 or 2 windows to get it right.

Is Reguillon worse than Perisic and Sessegnon ?

 

[Gb160]

Even when we were mid table shit, I wasn’t as fed up with the club as I am now. Why does it feel different now? Because we were so close to glory and fucked it up the only way we know how I suspect. It really hasn’t felt the same since losing that final. Maybe I should have walked away then because it’s been all downhill since.

Are you really saying that glorious Audi Cup triumph meant nothing to you ?!

 

[The Doc]

Is Reguillon worse than Perisic and Sessegnon ?

He is a piss poor defender so would complement what we already have.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

This ethos people keep on about. WTF is it? And do people seriously expect Daniel Levy to be on board with it. Or even know what it is.

I mean, I remember when we were about doing it with a swagger, skill and entertaining. That's what we expected. But now? It's a whole different era I suppose.

So this ethos................I can't help but feel it's a bit of a pipe dream. ENIC and Levy have had 20 years and if there isn't one now, I can't see how anyone can expect one to all of a sudden be plucked out of thin air.

 

[Gb160]

does anyone know where I can find the pass% in the opp. half and how it compares to the other teams>?

In the bedroom of a virgin would be a good place to start.

 

[rossdapep]

Is Reguillon worse than Perisic and Sessegnon ?

Probably not, no.

I actually think Poch would get a lot out of him.

 

[spurs9]

He’s been awful in his managerial appointments since he became CEO. He’s arguably had 3 successful appointments but the first 2 - Jol and Redknapp - carry important asterisks regarding how they got the job. Even in Poch’s case wasn’t the talk that we’d have ended up with Louis van Gaal had Utd not gazumped us.

Levy is just a horrid judge when it comes to managers.

Why is there an asterisk against Redknapp?

It's really not been that bad and probably above par from a PL standard. For perspective, our hires under Sugar were Livermore, Ardiles, Francis, Gross and Graham.

The Nuno hire and everything that led up to it that summer was an absolute farce though.

 

[chas vs dave]

We lost control because Lopetegui saw Wolves had issues and made changes at HT.

He then switched it up further and made more changes.

In the meantime, Conte did nothing.

He did the same in the EL final against Lopetegui.

It's why at HT I felt we really needes to take our chances because a coach like Lopetegui isn't going to not switch it up.

By the time we made our first sub, wolves had made 5. It dragged them into the game.

We didn't deserve to lose, however if you don't punish teams, then you run the risk.

I thought kane was poor today. The subs were baffling, and ineffectual.

 

[Shanks]

Rest players mid week, limp out the FA cup and those rested lose against wolves too - I’d say you couldn’t make it up, but actually, woth this club, it always is

 

[bubble07]

Is Reguillon worse than Perisic and Sessegnon ?

Sadly no

 

[Mackan110]

Nothing will change as long Levy and Enic are still here.
We hear it year after year that Levy will back the manager and still he never does. Levy wanted Mourinho and when he finally had him he decided not to back him and instead firing him the day before a final. Yes most of the fans didn't want Mourinho but he was and still is a proven winner but somehow he failed at Spurs, how come ?

Then Levy got Conte and we heard form all kind of sources that Levy had promised to back him (or at least give some of the players) and again he failed to deliver. In January he got 1 player in loan for the position Conte wanted to improve (RWB) and it took us the whole window to get a loan...

I don't even care anymore about who might be our next manager as it won't matter. We will never win anything with Levy and Enic (i don't count Audi cup)

 

[tommo84]

Why is there an asterisk against Redknapp?

It's really not been that bad and probably above par from a PL standard. For perspective, our hires under Sugar were Livermore, Ardiles, Francis, Gross and Graham.

The Nuno hire and everything that led up to it that summer was an absolute farce though.

The asterisk against Redknapp is that he was only appointed out of desperate necessity to fend off a relegation scrap brought about by Levy’s previous appointment. I don’t give Levy a great deal of credit for that.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

This ethos people keep on about. WTF is it? And do people seriously expect Daniel Levy to be on board with it. Or even know what it is.

I mean, I remember when we were about doing it with a swagger, skill and entertaining. That's what we expected. But now? It's a whole different era I suppose.

So this ethos................I can't help but feel it's a bit of a pipe dream. ENIC and Levy have had 20 years and if there isn't one now, I can't see how anyone can expect one to all of a sudden be plucked out of thin air.

It’s sad and I agree but the lack of a core identity as a club that starts at the top drives a wedge between the fans and the club. It also prevents us reaching our potential. Other clubs from Arsenal to Brighton have done it but we can’t, that comes down to the flaws in the board/Levy.

Levy has had 20 years and still hasn’t got a plan for how we play or delegated that role long term for someone to do it. Kronke did it with Edu, yet Levy can’t compete with Kronke, an American who barley knows our game. There is something fundamental in Levy’s nature that prevents him taking a long term view of the football, it’s all short term reactionary decisions.

We all knew who Conte was before we hired him. We knew he needed an elite squad and he was a short term manager. We didn’t get an elite squad and now he is probably off.

 

[Spursmatty87]

The asterisk against Redknapp is that he was only appointed out of desperate necessity to fend off a relegation scrap brought about by Levy’s previous appointment. I don’t give Levy a great deal of credit for that.

Tbf redknapp has said in the past that Levy wanted him after Jol, but Redknapp refused as he didn’t want to work with a dof.

 

[spurs9]

The asterisk against Redknapp is that he was only appointed out of desperate necessity to fend off a relegation scrap brought about by Levy’s previous appointment. I don’t give Levy a great deal of credit for that.

I think that is your Bias coming through. Redknapp turned us down 18 months prior to taking the job but even if he didn't, hiring the right manager for the circumstances is hardly a stick to beat him with.

Also, if I recall correctly, the previous appointment (Ramos) was actually a Comolli hire not a Levy hire.

 

[the yid]

I do think Conte needs to be moved on now however the problem I have is I genuinely don't think this is Contes fault. We've seen this pattern with the manager time and time again under this ownership, we could have anyone in the world as our manager and we'd still be in this situation. I genuinely do not care who is in the dugout or on the pitch, Nothing will change with Levy and Enic in charge. We'll all be here again in a year saying the same thing over and over again. Conte needs to go but at the same time SERIOUS heat needs to be put on the owners of this football club enoughs enough now.

 

[DannyNZ]

Is Reguillon worse than Perisic and Sessegnon ?

No

 

[mil1lion]

When Conte goes how long will it be before he wins a trophy? I'm going 2 years max.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

When Conte goes how long will it be before he wins a trophy? I'm going 2 years max.

Who cares