FORMER Manager Watch: Nuno Espírito Santo

[Amo]

Tbf to Levy by doing it this way:

• gets Paratici's man for him
• not long after the start of the season and in relatively good nick in the league
• Having avoided at least one high spending transfer window in the hope Conte can improve existing players enough to focus his transfer efforts into a narrower pool of requirements until next summer without being told to do so before the season started
• If he's gonna spend big anyway then same shit. If he improves players enough to get those demands slightly down, then even better.

Again, if Nuno really was doing a horrible job and underachieving results-wise, then the rest of the season will be an absolute breeze for an elite coach like Conte. Especially with Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, United and West Ham already out the way. Tbh I think it's a miracle we're that close to the top with the fixtures we've had.

 

[VegasII]

Thank fuck for that!. A nice guy but I could not having that
cardboard cutout on our touch line anymore.

Even then we managed to pick the wrong cardboard cutout

 

[Harryson]

Tbf to Levy by doing it this way:

• gets Paratici's man for him
• not long after the start of the season and in relatively good nick in the league
• Having avoided at least one high spending transfer window in the hope Conte can improve existing players enough to focus his transfer efforts into a narrower pool of requirements until next summer without being told to do so before the season started
• If he's gonna spend big anyway then same shit. If he improves players enough to get those demands slightly down, then even better.

There is no being fair to Levy

This is not a calculated decision. This is unfucking a fuck up.

 

[Locotoro]

Disagree, sorry. It was never going to get better and we would have ended mid table or lower at the end of the season making any recovery efforts even harder than they are now. If you keep doing the same thing and hoping for a different outcome you are an idiot, and he kept doing the same thing.

It looked like the players had no drive or enthusiasm for playing for him, so it was better to rip off the band aid now (and he was always just the band aid) and hope things start to cure. At least this way the fans might be on the side of the new manager.

The point is after 10 league games we will never know. Poch was in exactly the same position after 10 games and managed to get a lucky win at Villa and got rid of the poison in the squad and things got better from their. Football is 90% attitude and if the players are not showing the right attitude it doesnt matter what a manager does.

Name me any team where the players were not showing positive attitude and the manager was successful and I'll name you 10 successful managers with limited tactically ability but with players willing to run through brickwalls

 

[Amo]

There is no being fair to Levy

This is not a calculated decision. This is unfucking a fuck up.

Hah I'm not defending Levy. It's a fuck up and a half but it worked out miraculously given the idiotic decision-making

 

[Hakkz]

Worth noting imo, still haven't seen any social media posts thanking Nuno for his time from the players.

 

[Montalbano]

Worth noting imo, still haven't seen any social media posts thanking Nuno for his time from the players.

And they won't because they don't give a fuck.

 

[Hakkz]

And they won't because they don't give a fuck.

They did with Jose, who apparently had alienated everyone.

 

[Montalbano]

They did with Jose, who apparently had alienated everyone.

Don't think that was true either, but I'm also a Mourinho apologist.

 

[double0]

Pep, Conte, Zidane are probably the most successful managers of recent times and all have been described as aloof, arrogant and have frozen players out of the team without explanation. The real problem is some of our players have a sense of entitlement that they believe they should be winning trophies without putting in the hard yards for it.

Like Harry Kane.

 

[carmeldevil]

They did with Jose, who apparently had alienated everyone.

Not everyone. Some players actually liked playing for him. (Kane, Son, etc).

But I'll be surprised if Son says nothing about Nuno. We'll see.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

The point is after 10 league games we will never know. Poch was in exactly the same position after 10 games and managed to get a lucky win at Villa and got rid of the poison in the squad and things got better from their. Football is 90% attitude and if the players are not showing the right attitude it doesnt matter what a manager does.

Name me any team where the players were showing positive attitude and the manager was successful and I'll name you 10 successful managers with limited tactically ability but with players willing to run through brickwalls

the players need a platform to play from do you think he has provided that platform - he simply hasn't. Poch started slowly but there were some bright spots with Nuno there hasn't been. I thought we had hit a low with Portugese Joe but Nuno has actually gone backwards. There has been no attacking plan at all and if anything it was regressing.

Players won't run through a brick wall when the manager is incompetent there is nothing to buy into we have barely created a chance for two league games these players are a site better than that. He then starts to alienate players which doesn't help and for the last few games he has done nothing as a manager to attempt to change the game. There has to be a point when you look at it and think this isn't working or going to work. When he took Moura of on Saturday and left Lo So So pottering around doing bugger all the boos were a crescendo that was the end for him I am sorry to say. Maybe the players and some of the fans were never on his side but he has done nothing to raise the positivity which is a shame the job was to big for him

 

[Hakkz]

Don't think that was true either, but I'm also a Mourinho apologist.

Nope me neither, but that's what everyone wants to think.

 

[NEVILLEB]

Embarrassing another Manager won’t help the club. A very poor appointment.

 

[ljinko888]

Always comes across a decent man. Not the right fit for the club for the same reason as Mourinho. Being the last resort pick pretty much undermined him from day one. It was never going to work out fot long but obviously no one thought it would fall apart so soon. His Wolves team weren't very exciting going forwards but there was a clear foundation there which made them hard to play against.

Anyway I hope he bumps into Kane in a dark alleyway and lets the spoilt brat in on some home truths.

 

[Aphex]

Always comes across a decent man. Not the right fit for the club for the same reason as Mourinho. Being the last resort pick pretty much undermined him from day one. It was never going to work out fot long but obviously no one thought it would fall apart so soon. His Wolves team weren't very exciting going forwards but there was a clear foundation there which made them hard to play against.

Anyway I hope he bumps into Kane in a dark alleyway and lets the spoilt brat in on some home truths.

The thing is, I don't think Nuno being down the list of targets undermined him that much if he was able to build a connection with the players. We are all human, Nuno could have won them over despite this, but he didn't and that failure is his.

For example do we think Poch would have failed if he was brought in as apparent last choice, nah he still would have succeeded because he did what he needed to do, his personality was bought into by the players and they loved playing for him.

So the failure is on Nuno. Yes he had the Kane situ etc which didn't help, but again, a proper top coach no doubt would have managed to get Kane back onside, but Nuno couldn't do this. He was apparently dour and aloof, and this is all his own doing. The failure mostly lies with Nuno, he was handed a great opportunity and he couldn't do it. Wrong man, wrong time, but he still failed. He will be looked back on as probably worse than Gross, says it all.

 

[yido4life]

Love a good sacking day ?

Your in luck then as they seem more frequent then us scoring goals at the mo ?

 

[SpursTillIDie1882]

Its a great gig for Nuno - 2 years pay for 4 months work. Id sign up for that.

He's not getting 2 yrs pay

 

[AJW]

Anyone able to post the story in full?

 

[VegasII]

Anyone able to post the story in full?

Four months and out: How Nuno’s Tottenham reign unravelled and why it was doomed to fail​

People who work in football often talk about “alignment” — the idea that, for a club to work well, everyone must be pulling in the same direction and with the same ideas.

The remarkable thing about Nuno Espirito Santo’s 10 league games in charge of Tottenham Hotspur is not that they ended abruptly, but that they ever started at all. Nuno’s appointment on June 30 was a total failure of alignment, and his dismissal on Monday morning has been almost inevitable ever since.

Many things went wrong during Nuno’s four months in charge but how many of those should really have been a surprise?

You can point to the fact that only Norwich City create less in the Premier League than Spurs do, but then why were the players put in the hands of a manager who has only ever played defensive, counter-attack football?

You can point to the damage done by splitting the squad into first and second teams, but why appoint someone with no track record of success at big clubs?

You can say that Nuno was too quiet or uncommunicative around the training ground, but why did Tottenham need to appoint him to find that out?

For all of the mistakes that Nuno made during his short time in charge at the north London side, it is only fair to ask: Were any of them as bad as the mistake of giving him the job in the first place?

Perhaps the most important fact about Nuno’s tenure was that Tottenham had rejected him as an option long before they gave him the job.