Front Page News and Articles - Please Read

[Rob]

Some of you may have noticed that we've removed the front page news for now. This was in response to a copyright infringement notice for some of the articles.

As a reminder, you should only be posting at most snippets of an article and linking to the original source. We tried to encourage this but it's never been enforced that heavily as it's difficult to police and the responsibility for posting lies with the user. Having said that, we want to come up with a good solution and will need some time to decide on how we approach it.

Ideally I'd like to see much more user generated content on the front page rather than simply repeating news articles but again, we need to do it in a way that works.

In the mean time, please be aware that we're going to need to be very strict about this and it applies to everywhere on the forums and front page. You shouldn't be posting entire articles taken from elsewhere.

Cheers

Rob

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Can i suggest a limit to characters in the post? Perhaps something like the quote boxes but remove the expand option so even if a full article is posted, only the top five or six lines are visible?

(Can we ask who sent the heavies round? Was it BBC, cos we pay for that service! If it was, tell them to go do one! )

 

[Rob]

Can i suggest a limit to characters in the post? Perhaps something like the quote boxes but remove the expand option so even if a full article is posted, only the top five or six lines are visible?

(Can we ask who sent the heavies round? Was it BBC, cos we pay for that service! If it was, tell them to go do one! )

Exactly what I"m doing now. 200 character intro and then links to the full story at original site.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Is this in all threads on all parts of the website @Rob ?


Edit, Wait, I think you've answered the question...

 

[Rocksuperstar]

I hope it was Clubcall. Wouldn't that be an absolute belly laugh? That rumour mill getting snotty about plagiarism when that's their entire trade.

 

[Rob]

Is this in all threads on all parts of the website @Rob ?


Edit, Wait, I think you've answered the question...

It applies everywhere and it's always been our policy but it's hard to enforce. The front page especially was a problem though so we're putting steps in place to solve that one.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

It applies everywhere and it's always been our policy but it's hard to enforce. The front page especially was a problem though so we're putting steps in place to solve that one.

So, for example, I couldn't copy and paste an article from Stobart on Goal?

Surely the copyright claims would only come from newspapers where you have to pay for the online service- e.g. The Times

 

[Rob]

Surely the copyright claims would only come from newspapers where you have to pay for the online service- e.g. The Times

Absolutely wrong. If we're reproducing their content, they don't get the visitors, advertising revenue, etc.

We can promote their content and point people to it but we shouldn't be reproducing it.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Absolutely wrong. If we're reproducing their content, they don't get the visitors, advertising revenue, etc.

We can promote their content and point people to it but we shouldn't be reproducing it.

I think that's more than fair, as long as they are the actual owners and not just another crappy news-scraping site. You ever found any of the articles off here being used on another site that you've had to address? I mean, granted, 99% of what we say is guff, but it's possible i guess.

I assume that the complainer produces their own original articles and does their own journalism then, rather than just getting interns to reword internet rumours as "news".

 

[OmarsComing]

As I said ages ago, plagiarism on here was the norm and I tried to advise members but no on listened.

 

[Ian Kane]

As I said ages ago, plagiarism on here was the norm and I tried to advise members but no on listened.

It's not plagiarism it's more like theft. No one has tried to take credit for the articles I don't think ? It's the reproduction in full that's the problem.

 

[Roynie]

Plagiarism is reproducing an article and claiming it as your own. Where a link is included it can't be plagiarism, it's a copyright issue, not to mention a loss of visitors to the relevant site(s) with a consequent loss of advertising revenue.

I can't see what's wrong with posting a link with a very brief summary of it. If anyone wants to read the whole article they can just click the link. It is up to all of us to abide and police the rules.

 

[Mullers]

How about just rewriting the article and linking to the original source?

 

[Rocksuperstar]

How about just rewriting the article and linking to the original source?

That's basically what 90% of internet "news" sources do anyway, minus the link. Read story somewhere, re-write it for your own audience, publish. You notice "research" or "verify" don't feature much in that process.

It's cheap and crappy practice - if there's a story then it's worth investigating - if it's not worth investigating then it's probably made up.

 

[nightgoat]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was the Daily Mail who spotted one of their 'articles' whilst looking through the site for something to turn into a story.

Pretty hypocritical considering come the summer the transfer forums and ITK threads will be crawling with 'journalists' trawling for stuff to sell their papers with.

 

[Mattspur]

Plagiarism is reproducing an article and claiming it as your own. Where a link is included it can't be plagiarism, it's a copyright issue, not to mention a loss of visitors to the relevant site(s) with a consequent loss of advertising revenue.

I can't see what's wrong with posting a link with a very brief summary of it. If anyone wants to read the whole article they can just click the link. It is up to all of us to abide and police the rules.

 

[mawspurs]

Yes this has been forced on us but it's ironic that a large proportion of the stories that hit the media start on sites like this. So we are being restricted from providing them with "news".

 

[Roynie]

Plagiarism is reproducing an article and claiming it as your own. Where a link is included it can't be plagiarism, it's a copyright issue, not to mention a loss of visitors to the relevant site(s) with a consequent loss of advertising revenue.

I can't see what's wrong with posting a link with a very brief summary of it. If anyone wants to read the whole article they can just click the link. It is up to all of us to abide and police the rules.

Mattspur that's really funny, I did LOL!

 

[bomberH]

If it's an article from the Daily Mail, can we copy the whole article and just leave the last word out so we're not copying and pasting the whole article but showing enough of the article to save people from having to click on that fuckdumpling shitfest of a site?

 

[Rob]

If it's an article from the Daily Mail, can we copy the whole article and just leave the last word out so we're not copying and pasting the whole article but showing enough of the article to save people from having to click on that fuckdumpling shitfest of a site?

What do you think?