Gareth Bale (Rumour to Deal Done)

[Gb160]

Thanks Marvel & Disconosebleed, i take your points, perhaps the difference is that L'pool have been more forceful in this? Either way the Suarez leaving news has died down considerably more than the Bale saga.

That's because he's not the third best payer in the world,and he hasn't got the biggest club in the world trying to sign him.
The Suarez story is just not as big,it's got nothing to do with how it's been handled.

 

[Shadydan]

If we genuinely want to keep Bale why dont we come out and say he's not for sale like L'pool with Suarez? Instead AVB says today he is a cherished player but anything can happen. It seems to me we are welcoming the interest although perhaps I am missing something ??

Because if Real offer £100m straight cash for him then I very much doubt Levy would turn it down therefore we are noncommittal to the idea of keeping him.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Same great footballer that only played because bae got injured..

This is a myth. When BAE got injured, he was about to leave for the ACN. So Bale was already going to be playing left back whilst BAE was away, even if the injury had never happened.

 

[tttcowan]

What would your preference be (using your head not your heart.)

Option 1
Gareth Bale plus 24 other squad players

Option 2
No Gareth Bale
Soldado
Paulinho
Chadli
Capoue
... and being a little presumptuous
Lamela
Willian
plus 19 other squad players with a lot of the dead wood moved on.


IMHO every other club in the PL would elect Option 2 (with the exception of the Arse as they know Option 2 would make us a lot stronger than them).

No one wants to lose a marquee player, it will leave a massive void, but you cannot make an omelette without breaking any eggs!!

Option 3,
This season,
Gareth Bale
Soldado
Paulinho
Chadli
Capoue
... and being a little presumptuous
Lamela
Willian
plus 19 other squad players with a lot of the dead wood moved on.
Next Season
No Bale
Soldado
Paulinho
Chadli
Capoue
Lamela
Willian
+ others

 

[$hoguN]

If we genuinely want to keep Bale why dont we come out and say he's not for sale like L'pool with Suarez? Instead AVB says today he is a cherished player but anything can happen. It seems to me we are welcoming the interest although perhaps I am missing something ??

It is because Liverpool are fending off 40 million bids for Suarez and may end up getting one nearer 50.

We are being offered twice that for Bale. TWICE. You can't be committal about turning down around 100 million for a player as it is f**king insane money. The biggest issue is do madrid have that money? Considering we still own Bale's registration, it doesn't look like they do.

 

[ValenciaYid]

I love the last line. We have two decisions, 85m over 4 or 117m over 6. Well, it may just be me, but i'm pretty sure there is a third option on the table to, it is called the "Fuck off", and can be played as and when we like.

But in their last line they are saying that we could take a one off cash payment, really? Did they mention that in the article or did they only mention a payment plan?

At THFC no player is bigger than the club, however at a club in Madrid, every player is bigger than the club, by their own admission....

Ring Ring

Call Centre Rep - Good morning can I help you?
Snr Perez - Si buenos dias, is that Wonga? I need a pay day loan.....

 

[coopsy13]

This is a myth. When BAE got injured, he was about to leave for the ACN. So Bale was already going to be playing left back whilst BAE was away, even if the injury had never happened.

I know the situation with bae was selected for the acn but then got injured...but the point remains that if bae never went to the acn then bale would not have been in the team... He was there only as cover for bae.. Not because Harry thought he was such a good player as he claims.

 

[chalks79]

It is because Liverpool are fending off 40 million bids for Suarez and may end up getting one nearer 50.

We are being offered twice that for Bale. TWICE. You can't be committal about turning down around 100 million for a player as it is f**king insane money. The biggest issue is do madrid have that money? Considering we still own Bale's registration, it doesn't look like they do.

I agree. Let's be honest, if RM admit defeat and turn their attentions to Saurez, I'd bet good money Liverpool would sell. Like us with Bale to United, Liverpool won't want to make a rival team stronger.

 

[$hoguN]

I agree. Let's be honest, if RM admit defeat and turn their attentions to Saurez, I'd bet good money Liverpool would sell. Like us with Bale to United, Liverpool won't want to make a rival team stronger.

If Liverpool were being offered 100 million for Suarez they would be strapping him to a Hannibal Lecteresque straight jacket and mask and putting him on a plane.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

This is a myth. When BAE got injured, he was about to leave for the ACN. So Bale was already going to be playing left back whilst BAE was away, even if the injury had never happened.

The bottom line is Bale would not have played had Benny not been injured OR gone to the ACN.
I liked Redknapp but his biggest flaw by a mile was how he handled players out of form. He simply benched them and forgot about them.
Did it to lots of players a lot of the time.

 

[colfin22]

Today is the day according to Marca

http://www.marca.com/2013/08/15/en/football/real_madrid/1376562834.html

For budgetary and accountancy reasons - my arse

I like the last bit, hasn't the ball always been in Levys court

 

[chalks79]

If Liverpool were being offered 100 million for Suarez they would be strapping him to a Hannibal Lecteresque straight jacket and mask and putting him on a plane.

LOL - I think they'd do the same for half that.

 

[zac]

Why are there so many people saying "we're now only three weeks away from the end of the window and we're no closer to knowing whether or not Bale is going to stay"? Isn't it perfectly plausible that there will be no big "Hey everyone I'm staying, sorry for shitting you all up lol" statement and fanfare, and the deadline just passes without an official bid from Madrid? Every day that passes is a day closer to Bale staying. At the moment the only information anyone is even talking about is whether Bale has the hump or not, which frankly is completely irrelevant if Madrid haven't even bid for him.

If the deal doesn't go through, he will have no choice but to get his head down and do the business for us, and even if he does have the arsehole with us for not allowing him his big move, if we get off to a good start then a month down the line you can guarantee he will have put it to the back of his mind until next summer and will be back playing well again. For all these theories about not keeping an unhappy player etc, there are very few examples of it actually having a negative impact on the pitch (van Hooijdonk is the only one I can think of).

Bale is a top class professional footballer, and even if he is sulking about being stuck here, even if you doubt his professionalism and his attitude (which IMO remain intact until we hear anything other than tabloid sensationalism suggesting otherwise), even if you doubt every element of his character with regards to loyalty to our club, a combination of ego and determination to still be in Madrid's thoughts come next season will ensure that he doesn't let it affect his football.

Even if you accept the ridiculous worst-case scenario that the tabloids have cooked up - that he's a spoiled, selfish, greedy, disloyal arsehole who will scweam and scweam and scweam until he gets what he wants - if he DOESN'T end up moving, it will not benefit him to let his performances slip. He will know this, and if he doesn't then you can be sure that Barnett, his family and his colleagues at our club will drum it into him.

There is no reason to think his performances will suffer on that basis; my only worry is that if he shows complete honesty on the pitch but still, understandably, fails to live up to the ridiculous levels he set for himself last year, fans blame it on his attitude post-Madridgate and get on his back anyway.

We're not going to know for sure that he is staying until the deadline passes, because neither Madrid nor the Bale camp are likely to confirm publicly that the proposed move is off, so really I don't know why people aren't working on the basis that no news is good news at the moment. We have eighteen days like today to chalk off, which is about as many as there have been since the last time there was any actual news coming from any of the relevant parties that anything was happening.

Well said. Too many people getting carried away with slagging him off based on "paper" talk most it based on Marca`s comments.

 

[EnfieldYiddo]

Madrid fans seem to feel they will get him for a lot less than touted, tbh if he goes I doubt we'll ever know the true fee or the structure .

 

[$hoguN]

Madrid fans seem to feel they will get him for a lot less than touted, tbh if he goes I doubt we'll ever know the true fee or the structure .

For PR reasons alone the true fee will come out.

 

[whitechina]

If we genuinely want to keep Bale why dont we come out and say he's not for sale like L'pool with Suarez? Instead AVB says today he is a cherished player but anything can happen. It seems to me we are welcoming the interest although perhaps I am missing something ??

hi
I have been thinking for a while that all of the strutting from RM and quiet from our end is part of a masterplan. All parties agree that Bale will go next year- he is injured and enables more smoke n mirrors from the different teams publicity depts. All this free publicity (my ONION) has enabled Spurs to reach many more people world wide. I hope he stays, but hey what do i know? Do we really have THAT GOOD a "special relationship"?

 

[Viggspur]

What would your preference be (using your head not your heart.)

Option 1
Gareth Bale plus 24 other squad players

Option 2
No Gareth Bale
Soldado
Paulinho
Chadli
Capoue
... and being a little presumptuous
Lamela
Willian
plus 19 other squad players with a lot of the dead wood moved on.


IMHO every other club in the PL would elect Option 2 (with the exception of the Arse as they know Option 2 would make us a lot stronger than them).

No one wants to lose a marquee player, it will leave a massive void, but you cannot make an omelette without breaking any eggs!!

EDIT: Obviously Option 3 consisting of all the new players plus Gareth Bale would be fantastic, but perhaps that cannot happen, and without Gareth Bale leaving we would not be able to strengthen the squad as we have. What I am trying to say is that maybe in the long term Gareth Bale will be the best thing that happens to this club in a long time whether he stays or not.

Personally I'd stick with what we have now and do everything we can to tie down GB for one more year. We can recoup a good chunk of the transfer fees already laid out but selling off some more squad players e.g Parker & Ade, plus our TV money and sponsorship deals. Lamela looks a good prospect but is merely potential at this stage with no guarantee he'd cut it in the prem, Willian is a good player but he's no GB! They'd also likely cost us £65-70m together which would be most of the GB money anyway and we'd imo be weaker this season for it.

 

[zac]

Just read the latest missive from Marca/RM, and they really are up their own anus.

http://www.marca.com/2013/08/15/en/football/real_madrid/1376562834.html

You would think that they way they put it, that RM are doing us a big service in offering us a choice of payment, but, as is his right, DL is insisting on his payments terms.

When they state that "The Tottenham chairman must decide whether he prefers to boast a record transfer fee which would be difficult to beat in the future or whether he prefers to receive the transfer fee as a one-off cash payment." surely as long as GB is under contract to Spurs, and he has not asked for a transfer, DL can tell them whatever he likes, no matter what Marca print.

 

[YiddoInPoland]

I doubt many of us here would begrudge anyone wanting to go to Madrid (although i don't see the appeal myself). The issue here is the way Madrid go about it, Tapping up, unsettling tactics to turn heads and drive the price down. Unfortunately for them Levy played this game with Chelsea and it left a bitter taste in his mouth. it should have gone like this:

Perez: Mr Levy, we want Bale
Levy: No, Maybe next year
Perez: Ok

Sorry for the lack of stereotypical accents for Perez and the offers of sweeteners in the form of confectioneries from Levy

He isn't for sale this summer, next summer he probably would have been anyway, why can't they just wait until then instead of all this bullshit. I honestly struggle to see where he will fit in, he is too good to rot away there, and i don't think he will but Ronaldo (and rightly so) casts a huge shadow and not many will come out from underneath it.

 

[Carp]

Ali Z on COYS:
Two prices one is cash and the other installments, no players involved, contreao deal would be seperate to any Bale deal. Real know the score just playing games, hoping we willl cave in.