Gareth Bale (Rumour to Deal Done)

[Spurger King]

Real Madrid forward Raul is a keen admirer of the PFA player of the year, he feels that Spurs have made him “too expensive”.
“He’s a brilliant player and would bring a lot to Madrid, but his price is too high,” Raul is quoted as saying by Spanish newspaper AS. “Tottenham have overestimated his price.”
He added: “The Real Madrid board is working hard to assemble the best team possible.”

Raul's face is overestimated.

Yeah.

 

[Riandor]

Raul's face is overestimated.

Yeah.

Thats telling them!

Said it a few times already... Spoilt brat entitlement. The club has bred that for years, they dont understand where anyone else is coming from or why we find it hugely arrogant... Its Real Madrid, they are football, they are the greatest team to have ever existed!! They define Football Manager style football.

They can go do one.

 

[tttcowan]

The shitest thing about not getting CL last year is we won't get the chance to completely batter these shower of pricks in there own back yard... BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

If only.

 

[Jospur]

Real Madrid forward Raul is a keen admirer of the PFA player of the year, he feels that Spurs have made him “too expensive”.
“He’s a brilliant player and would bring a lot to Madrid, but his price is too high,” Raul is quoted as saying by Spanish newspaper AS. “Tottenham have overestimated his price.”
He added: “The Real Madrid board is working hard to assemble the best team possible.”

How many other players are Real Madrid going to trot out saying that Bale should join them? It's almost laughable now.

Someone should compile a list of these Real Madrid players that seem to like Bale so much. Is it possible that the Club is paying them to make these statements? If so, I wonder how much per quote? Could it be a flat rate or some sort of rising scale based on how well-known they are? Does Zidane get a bonus fee on top of the standard rate as he could be considered management now?

Has Ronaldo refused to speak on the matter as he believes that he should get at least three times the going rate for quotes on Bale?

Have any of the ITKs got any info on this that they'd be prepared to share?

 

[Breezer]

How many other players are Real Madrid going to trot out saying that Bale should join them? It's almost laughable now.

Someone should compile a list of these Real Madrid players that seem to like Bale so much. Is it possible that the Club is paying them to make these statements? If so, I wonder how much per quote? Could it be a flat rate or some sort of rising scale based on how well-known they are? Does Zidane get a bonus fee on top of the standard rate as he could be considered management now?

Has Ronaldo refused to speak on the matter as he believes that he should get at least three times the going rate for quotes on Bale?

Have any of the ITKs got any info on this that they'd be prepared to share?

Tottenham should individually interview all our players and ask them if they would like Ronaldo to join. Then each day release quotes on sky sports.

 

[tttcowan]

Tottenham should individually interview all our players and ask them if they would like Ronaldo to join. Then each day release quotes on sky sports.

In case you're wondering Mr Breezer, naive as it may well be, I've still got my hopes up...

 

[Qualsonic]

The thing is though is that he is sale , it's just that the price is extortionately high because we don't need to sell, we don't want to sell.

This is just pressure from RM to lower the price, to make him attainable.

 

[stormfly]

This is why the transfer window is a joke. I should be looking forward to Bale getting fit for the NLD and smashing in a hat trick. Instead I have to listen to these jokers from Madrid openly tapping up our best player while no one does anything about it. Window should close before the football starts! Simple.

 

[Berbatonghen]

Just watched bales top 10 goals for us. Unreal and unbelievable.

More then any other signing (lamela willian etc)I really want him to say. Ffs gareth stay and help your team cement themselves as one of the heavyweights of english and european football.

 

[beats1]

Real Madrid forward Raul is a keen admirer of the PFA player of the year, he feels that Spurs have made him “too expensive”.
“He’s a brilliant player and would bring a lot to Madrid, but his price is too high,” Raul is quoted as saying by Spanish newspaper AS. “Tottenham have overestimated his price.”
He added: “The Real Madrid board is working hard to assemble the best team possible.”

See they are the ones who said bale is worth £85million not us, pubically

 

[Spurger King]

See they are the ones who said bale is worth £85million not us, pubically

The last time I said something pubically I got arrested.

 

[voxy28]

Looks like Bale is staying base on the so call pathetic offer of EUR70 + Coentrao.

With the TV rights income redistribution reducing their intake and the state hunting them down on taxes owed and Bankhia on teether of collapse, they have got no money except a loud twat mouth that keeps farting.

I had lost my respect to them... just shameful.

 

[Shea]

This is why the transfer window is a joke. I should be looking forward to Bale getting fit for the NLD and smashing in a hat trick. Instead I have to listen to these jokers from Madrid openly tapping up our best player while no one does anything about it. Window should close before the football starts! Simple.

they shoould open the window the second domestic seasons end and close them a week before they start - I don't see any reason to have the two week overlap into the start of each season

 

[Twizzle]

I can't see this dragging on for much longer despite what Ballbag has said.

We need time to negotiate and spend the money so I cant see us folding on the final few days.

 

[Flashspur]

yes pretty soon time will be up......i hope

 

[Scott Spur]

I wonder if the Bale silence has anything to do with a deadline Daniel Levy may of set for the deal?

Would make sense to set a deadline to give time to find incoming replacements.

Just a suggestion and would be surprised if RM didn't come back again at the end of the window, but may explain the silence now.

 

[BelgianBrownie]

Triffic article:

http://assoc-football.com/2013/08/1...-to-sell-bale-or-at-least-why-they-shouldnt/?

It has been largely assumed that Spurs would have to sell Bale and would not be able to resist an 85 million pound offer from Real Madrid. Daniel Levy is now seen as just holding out to get a better deal from Madrid. But when analyzing Spurs past transfer history and the current dynamics of the market, it becomes clear that Spurs are most likely not bluffing. They want to keep Bale and have no intention of selling Bale this summer for anything less than an absurd 100+ million pounds. And Spurs are exactly right in their approach. Bale is worth more to Spurs in 2013-14 than 85 million pounds.
Importantly, this doesn’t mean Bale is worth more than 85 million pounds. Bale is an asset. And just like any property, just because someone offers you a huge amount for your house doesn’t mean it makes sense to sell. Timing matters and the timing doesn’t make sense here.
But what about Spurs spending?
One reason to think Bale is on his way is that Spurs are spending likely drunken sailors – only Manchester City in the EPL has spent more this season. The logic goes that poor Spurs can’t afford this, so they must already be using the money they plan to get for Bale now. But there are reasons to doubt this.
As the transfer history shows, Spurs have money. But until this summer, Spurs haven’t really spent considerably since Harry Redknapp’s first two years. Look at the last 8-9 years of transfer activity:

• 2013-14 (-47 mil euros net): Spurs have spent 69 million euros (Paulinho, Soldaldo, Capoue, Chadli) and sold 22 million
• 2012-13 (-4 mil): Spurs last year spent 72 mil euros and sold 68 million euros
• 2011-12 (+36 mil): (Redknapp’s last season), Spurs spent just 6 mill euros (Scott Parker) and sold 42 million euros.
• 2010-2011 (-23 mil): spent 26 million, and sold just 3 million.
• 09-10 (-9 mil): spent 40 and sold 31.
• 08-09 (-50 mil): This was the year Spurs sold Berbatov and Keane (2 pts, 8 games) and then got Redknapp and had to panic buy in the January window, Spurs spent 140 mill and sold 90 mil
• 07-08 (-72 mil): 94 spent (Bent, Bale), 22 mil sold
• 06-07 (-23 mil): 61 spent (Berbatov), 38 mil sold
• 05-06 (-14 mil): 36 spent, 22 mil sold.

Over the last 8 years (excluding this summer), Spurs have spent an average of 20 million euros more per season than they have sold. But if you don’t count the last two seasons Spurs were spending 30 million euros more per season than selling for the 6 seasons between 2005 and 2011. But the past two seasons Spurs have been a selling club netting 32 million euros. So if Spurs could maintain spending at 30 million per season for the six years prior to 2011-2012 than Tottenham have likely been banking revenue the past two seasons.
This means that not only do Spurs have the 32 million euros they have netted the past two seasons, but likely are capable of spending an additional 60 million from a lack of spending. In other words, Spurs have not spent their transfer allotment the past two years. That would equate to Spurs being able to afford to spend about 90 million euros net. Hence, despite already having a net outflow of 47 million euros this window, Spurs should have about an additional 30-40 million euros more they could spend, given the lack of spending the past two years. This is what makes Tottenham’s bid for Willan and others financially viable. Furthermore, if Spurs plan on selling Bale next season, they can count on likely being in the black in terms of spending, likely making them more willing to push their spending limit.
Lastly, my guess is that part of the agreement in keeping AVB at Spurs (he turned down Real and PSG) is that he will be given the resources to compete. This current rate of spending is probably part of that deal. So Spurs spending could easily be disconnected from any Bale sale.
But still why not sell at 85 million pounds – a Premier League record?
First, Spurs will increase their chances at qualifying for Champions League. With Bale Spurs, while not assured, will be favorites for the Champions League. That’s likely an additional 20 to 40 million pounds in revenue. Without Bale, Spurs have a good shot at CL, but the odds get lowered. So lets assume you don’t sell Bale this year and his value drops to 60 million, just because the amount that Real is willing to pay lessens. You still have likely come out even by keeping him and getting into the CL than by selling.

Second, it is harder to replace Bale now because you don’t have the attraction of CL. Next year, if Spurs make the CL they can actually use the funds to lure current CL quality players. Right now Spurs have to speculate more in the transfer market, as they have to find players that they think will be of that calibre.
Third, you gain global market share by keeping Bale. Bale is the best player in the Premier League and a human highlight reel. There’s a reason why Spurs ranked top in NBC’s chose your club promotion and its Bale. He’s on the Time’s Square billboard for god sakes. In politics this is called “earned media” – ie free publicity. Spurs will never be able to get this sort of free publicity again. This could hugely impact the potential earnings of the club, as new markets, with a growing fan base have thousands of people looking for a team to cheer for, for jersey’s to buy.
Fourth, Spurs actually have a shot at winning the league with Bale. Yes, with Bale (and with AVB and new signings), Spurs can win the title. The top 3 EPL clubs have new managers this season and while Mourinho isn’t exactly “new” he has to reshape the squad and could face a couple hiccups. The winning point totals the past four seasons have been 89, 86, 80, and 86 points. There are reasons to believe that it will be less this year, due to competitive balance and new coaches. Let’s say 82-86 points wins this year. With Bale likely playing as a striker/attacking midfield from the get go and with Soldaldo and other new signings, Spurs will likely improve on the 72 points last year when they had no strikers scoring more than a handful of goals and had a new manager. It is by no means unreasonable to think Spurs could potentially be about 10 points better than they were last year. And at around 82 points they are fully in the title race

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

Triffic article:

http://assoc-football.com/2013/08/1...-to-sell-bale-or-at-least-why-they-shouldnt/?

It has been largely assumed that Spurs would have to sell Bale and would not be able to resist an 85 million pound offer from Real Madrid. Daniel Levy is now seen as just holding out to get a better deal from Madrid. But when analyzing Spurs past transfer history and the current dynamics of the market, it becomes clear that Spurs are most likely not bluffing. They want to keep Bale and have no intention of selling Bale this summer for anything less than an absurd 100+ million pounds. And Spurs are exactly right in their approach. Bale is worth more to Spurs in 2013-14 than 85 million pounds.
Importantly, this doesn’t mean Bale is worth more than 85 million pounds. Bale is an asset. And just like any property, just because someone offers you a huge amount for your house doesn’t mean it makes sense to sell. Timing matters and the timing doesn’t make sense here.
But what about Spurs spending?
One reason to think Bale is on his way is that Spurs are spending likely drunken sailors – only Manchester City in the EPL has spent more this season. The logic goes that poor Spurs can’t afford this, so they must already be using the money they plan to get for Bale now. But there are reasons to doubt this.
As the transfer history shows, Spurs have money. But until this summer, Spurs haven’t really spent considerably since Harry Redknapp’s first two years. Look at the last 8-9 years of transfer activity:

• 2013-14 (-47 mil euros net): Spurs have spent 69 million euros (Paulinho, Soldaldo, Capoue, Chadli) and sold 22 million
• 2012-13 (-4 mil): Spurs last year spent 72 mil euros and sold 68 million euros
• 2011-12 (+36 mil): (Redknapp’s last season), Spurs spent just 6 mill euros (Scott Parker) and sold 42 million euros.
• 2010-2011 (-23 mil): spent 26 million, and sold just 3 million.
• 09-10 (-9 mil): spent 40 and sold 31.
• 08-09 (-50 mil): This was the year Spurs sold Berbatov and Keane (2 pts, 8 games) and then got Redknapp and had to panic buy in the January window, Spurs spent 140 mill and sold 90 mil
• 07-08 (-72 mil): 94 spent (Bent, Bale), 22 mil sold
• 06-07 (-23 mil): 61 spent (Berbatov), 38 mil sold
• 05-06 (-14 mil): 36 spent, 22 mil sold.

Over the last 8 years (excluding this summer), Spurs have spent an average of 20 million euros more per season than they have sold. But if you don’t count the last two seasons Spurs were spending 30 million euros more per season than selling for the 6 seasons between 2005 and 2011. But the past two seasons Spurs have been a selling club netting 32 million euros. So if Spurs could maintain spending at 30 million per season for the six years prior to 2011-2012 than Tottenham have likely been banking revenue the past two seasons.
This means that not only do Spurs have the 32 million euros they have netted the past two seasons, but likely are capable of spending an additional 60 million from a lack of spending. In other words, Spurs have not spent their transfer allotment the past two years. That would equate to Spurs being able to afford to spend about 90 million euros net. Hence, despite already having a net outflow of 47 million euros this window, Spurs should have about an additional 30-40 million euros more they could spend, given the lack of spending the past two years. This is what makes Tottenham’s bid for Willan and others financially viable. Furthermore, if Spurs plan on selling Bale next season, they can count on likely being in the black in terms of spending, likely making them more willing to push their spending limit.
Lastly, my guess is that part of the agreement in keeping AVB at Spurs (he turned down Real and PSG) is that he will be given the resources to compete. This current rate of spending is probably part of that deal. So Spurs spending could easily be disconnected from any Bale sale.
But still why not sell at 85 million pounds – a Premier League record?
First, Spurs will increase their chances at qualifying for Champions League. With Bale Spurs, while not assured, will be favorites for the Champions League. That’s likely an additional 20 to 40 million pounds in revenue. Without Bale, Spurs have a good shot at CL, but the odds get lowered. So lets assume you don’t sell Bale this year and his value drops to 60 million, just because the amount that Real is willing to pay lessens. You still have likely come out even by keeping him and getting into the CL than by selling.

Second, it is harder to replace Bale now because you don’t have the attraction of CL. Next year, if Spurs make the CL they can actually use the funds to lure current CL quality players. Right now Spurs have to speculate more in the transfer market, as they have to find players that they think will be of that calibre.
Third, you gain global market share by keeping Bale. Bale is the best player in the Premier League and a human highlight reel. There’s a reason why Spurs ranked top in NBC’s chose your club promotion and its Bale. He’s on the Time’s Square billboard for god sakes. In politics this is called “earned media” – ie free publicity. Spurs will never be able to get this sort of free publicity again. This could hugely impact the potential earnings of the club, as new markets, with a growing fan base have thousands of people looking for a team to cheer for, for jersey’s to buy.
Fourth, Spurs actually have a shot at winning the league with Bale. Yes, with Bale (and with AVB and new signings), Spurs can win the title. The top 3 EPL clubs have new managers this season and while Mourinho isn’t exactly “new” he has to reshape the squad and could face a couple hiccups. The winning point totals the past four seasons have been 89, 86, 80, and 86 points. There are reasons to believe that it will be less this year, due to competitive balance and new coaches. Let’s say 82-86 points wins this year. With Bale likely playing as a striker/attacking midfield from the get go and with Soldaldo and other new signings, Spurs will likely improve on the 72 points last year when they had no strikers scoring more than a handful of goals and had a new manager. It is by no means unreasonable to think Spurs could potentially be about 10 points better than they were last year. And at around 82 points they are fully in the title race

Ok. I like this.

 

[mattyspurs]

Spurs haven't overestimated anything. Bale is simply worth more to us.

Exactly, also Didn't Zidane set the marker at the start of the window when he said they would pay a world record fee for a player if it was the right one, when talking about Bale

 

[TheGreenLily]

Didn't we make £10 million net profit last season from Sales? I remember reading it on here and everywhere, that we got Dembele, Verts and Lloris at a profit. As we sold the likes of Modric, VDV, Dos Santos and JJ left...?

If so then I would think about figures used here as the first one down is already wrong. Regarding the above article.