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garryparkerschest

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If he'd gone to Utd he probably would have achieved the success his talent deserved.

Begrudginly would have to agree with that.

But the boy was a timebomb and may have exploded in the company of the disciplinarian that was Alex Ferguson.

You never know what would have happened.
 

trasores

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Why was he sold to Lazio?

He was advised to by his agent mel stein.

loads of people told him not to go, but Gazza had a habit of taking advice from people who didn't have his best interest at heart (agents, 5 bellies, hangers on, chris evans etc"
 

THFCSPURS19

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Because we were in financial difficulties. We as a club could have gone under, which is amazing to believe these days.
He was advised to by his agent mel stein.

loads of people told him not to go, but Gazza had a habit of taking advice from people who didn't have his best interest at heart (agents, 5 bellies, hangers on, chris evans etc"
All the money (and all the best players) was in Serie A back then, and they offered what would be the equivalent of £80m+ today.
Thanks guys :)
 

stemark44

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i am still thinking why one of our lads didnt pull him aside in that Cup Final and say 'settle down mate - you are going to get sent off or something'. That injury set him back in his prime.

I blame Venables for that.
He should have absolutely roasted him after his first challenge and threatened to sub him if he didn't calm down.
 

dondo

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I blame Venables for that.
He should have absolutely roasted him after his first challenge and threatened to sub him if he didn't calm down.


El tel got the best out of him for us and for England , not sure gazza would have taken much notice of venables shouting calm down for the touch line anyway tbh.
So sad what has happened to him a classic example of a flawed geinuis.
My favourite player of all time
 

Geyzer Soze

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He's looking pretty good at the Premier and that isn't he?
 

montylynch

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Growing up and watching him in his pomp at Spurs was pure gold. I doubt we'll ever see another character like him grace our field. I remember vividly watching him score against Arsenal in his socks, his one man mission to get us to the 91 final scoring in nearly every round, the goal in the semi......i doubt there is a fan of another club who can hold the memories that we have of Gazza.

Put me in mind to watch one night in Turin again.
 

tiger666

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He's looking pretty good at the Premier and that isn't he?

He is. Note the Daily Mail still can't resist putting in a picture of him coming out of a shop with a bottle of gin earlier this year. Why? Fucking ****s. Why can't they just focus on him looking good at the premiere and leave it at that.
 

kungfugrip

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We can all think of those highlights like the Cruyff turn against Holland, the free kick against Arsenal, and the turn and volley against Scotland. So sad that there would have been probably hundreds more moments like that if his mind and body had been in better shape.
 

Spurger King

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We can all think of those highlights like the Cruyff turn against Holland, the free kick against Arsenal, and the turn and volley against Scotland. So sad that there would have been probably hundreds more moments like that if his mind and body had been in better shape.

Not saying you're wrong, but I've always wondered if booze contributed to his talent.

Alcohol can give people extra confidence, and steady the nerves. It can lead to spontaneous and creative decisions that they might otherwise hesitate over. I used to play a lot of pool tournaments, and personally found that between being completely sober and too drunk there was a level where I was at my very best - playing shots quickly and accurately, and knowing I was going to clear the table rather than hoping I would.

The same could potentially apply to Best (although I have no idea how long he was a heavy drinker), or a coked up Maradona at Napoli. All three obviously had huge natural talent, but I do wonder if booze (or in Maradona's case, illegal drugs) helped in some way.
 

dontcallme

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I think Gazza was always going to have problems. There was just something in him that was always going to explode.

Ferguson might have done better with him but I don't believe any football manager would have had him completely on the straight and narrow.
 

kungfugrip

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Not saying you're wrong, but I've always wondered if booze contributed to his talent.

Alcohol can give people extra confidence, and steady the nerves. It can lead to spontaneous and creative decisions that they might otherwise hesitate over. I used to play a lot of pool tournaments, and personally found that between being completely sober and too drunk there was a level where I was at my very best - playing shots quickly and accurately, and knowing I was going to clear the table rather than hoping I would.

The same could potentially apply to Best (although I have no idea how long he was a heavy drinker), or a coked up Maradona at Napoli. All three obviously had huge natural talent, but I do wonder if booze (or in Maradona's case, illegal drugs) helped in some way.

.....maybe Messi's smashed every time he plays as well then.......:wacky: ...not. Probably Messi's achievements are the best advert ever for not drinking in terms of what can be achieved.

I meant that in terms of longevity of his career, we would have seen incredible football on a regular basis well into his early to mid 30s .....if he'd laid off the drink.
 

VegasII

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He was awesome on Football Italia. James Richardson must have been bored shitless once Gazza left and Paul Ince turned up.

The gooners had Paul Merson. We had Paul Gascoigne. Enough said.
 

Geyzer Soze

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Not saying you're wrong, but I've always wondered if booze contributed to his talent.

Alcohol can give people extra confidence, and steady the nerves. It can lead to spontaneous and creative decisions that they might otherwise hesitate over. I used to play a lot of pool tournaments, and personally found that between being completely sober and too drunk there was a level where I was at my very best - playing shots quickly and accurately, and knowing I was going to clear the table rather than hoping I would.

The same could potentially apply to Best (although I have no idea how long he was a heavy drinker), or a coked up Maradona at Napoli. All three obviously had huge natural talent, but I do wonder if booze (or in Maradona's case, illegal drugs) helped in some way.
Only if they were pissed/ high when they played. Which surely they weren't
 

NEVILLEB

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Loved him but obviously he wasn't the same player after his knee injury.

What he could have become is frightening.
 
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