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German Reports- Tottenham in advanced talks to sign Christoph Kramer

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They were the only ones I could think of off the top of my head that fulfilled what I am thinking and could possibly be attainable.

I'm deadly serious when I say that when Phil Neville was mooted to come to us I was 1 of the first to laugh it off as foolish folly, but now I have totally changed my mind and understand the value of these players on and off the pitch. Especially for developing the mentalities of the younger players.

Don't get me wrong I'm all for getting some Prem experience in - just not those two.

Though it is difficult to think of a couple of players in that bracket at the moment.
 

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Covered more distance than any other player in the Bundesliga last season. That's the stat I remember them bringing up when he was in the Germany WC team. Just the fact he was making the German WC team suggests this would be a good move!

German Jenas?

Yes. Pun as well.
 

tdk101

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To be honest, Talksport have claimed that German reports are saying it, and I haven't seen one. Wouldn't mind getting him on the cheap.

Seriously though, this guy was part of a squad that won the world cup. If he couldn't bring a winning mentality, then nobody could.
I scoured the German media trying to find the original report, instead they are quoting reports from Sunday Times, Metro, daily Star, etc. So this one is a bit of farce. One report even said that Spurs are willing to offer up to 20 Million Euros.

http://footballnet.sportalsports.co...ball/geruechte/2014/10/27/39519200000_00.html

Another report says Juventus are also interested.
 

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One thing is for sure: this ain't gonna be a Holtby type bargain. 20 Million Euros actually sound realistic and that was about how much Spurs were willing to pay for Schneiderlin. If this report has any legs, the deal is more that just usual Levy's bargain hunt.
 

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One thing is for sure: this ain't gonna be a Holtby type bargain. 20 Million Euros actually sound realistic and that was about how much Spurs were willing to pay for Schneiderlin. If this report has any legs, the deal is more that just usual Levy's bargain hunt.

My biggest question would be if Pochettino wants him or if Kramer's been identified as a "similar but cheaper option with potential to add value" by Baldini and/or the scouting department.
 

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One thing is for sure: this ain't gonna be a Holtby type bargain. 20 Million Euros actually sound realistic and that was about how much Spurs were willing to pay for Schneiderlin. If this report has any legs, the deal is more that just usual Levy's bargain hunt.

20 Million euro's? It'll have to wait for the summer when we splurge the Lloris/Verts money
 

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To me, it's a good alternative no matter who came up with the idea. I wouldn't wanna be held to ransom by Southhampton for Schneiderlin. They will probably ask 30 million by now.
 

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20 Million euro's? It'll have to wait for the summer when we splurge the Lloris/Verts money

If we're banking on Vertonghen being worth a lot of money we may be disappointed. Thankfully, we've got some players who we easily could sell (Dembele, Paulinho, Lennon) that will account for decent chunks of money.
 

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My biggest question would be if Pochettino wants him or if Kramer's been identified as a "similar but cheaper option with potential to add value" by Baldini and/or the scouting department.

TBH as soon as I hear 'Spurs' and 'expiring contract' these days I lose interest in the player no matter who it is as I just think Levy's driving it regardless of who or what position they play. I fully expect a Jan expiring contract signing who Poch has little use for or knows where to fit in.

Stambouli feels that way atm, I hope I'm wrong, from the game time he's got so far we may has well as saved the fee and wages and give Veljkovic the game time, i can't see what difference it would of made to our season so far tbh. like I said I hope I'm wrong and there was a reason and a plan behind it other than undermarket value that we signed Stambouli
 

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If we're banking on Vertonghen being worth a lot of money we may be disappointed. Thankfully, we've got some players who we easily could sell (Dembele, Paulinho, Lennon) that will account for decent chunks of money.

it was more about them 2 bound to be wanting out come the end of the season
 

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I would be very surprised if this were genuine. Not only is it unlikely he'd want to leave (both clubs he's associated with are likely to be in CL next year, and he's seeing time in the national team already), but also while the situation may not be "ideal," I'd be very surprised among all our problems if we were looking at yet another primarily defensive midfielder.

Not a doubt in my mind we won't look to bring in at least one attacker in January. Poch looks as frustrating with his options as we are. Our creative bank of three features clearly talented players in their own right, but they are all far too similar and do not provide enough splicing play in aggression, pace, or dribbling ability. We have got to have some options that can drive a thorn into the sides of opposing defenses, open them up, and consequently relieve some of the pressure on our struggling defense. Now that Mason has arrived to finally alleviate our forward passing problem, we now have to give him a more versatile array of options.
 

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TBH as soon as I hear 'Spurs' and 'expiring contract' these days I lose interest in the player no matter who it is as I just think Levy's driving it regardless of who or what position they play. I fully expect a Jan expiring contract signing who Poch has little use for or knows where to fit in.

Stambouli feels that way atm, I hope I'm wrong, from the game time he's got so far we may has well as saved the fee and wages and give Veljkovic the game time, i can't see what difference it would of made to our season so far tbh. like I said I hope I'm wrong and there was a reason and a plan behind it other than undermarket value that we signed Stambouli

I think Stambouli is going to have a bigger role as the season goes along (that sounds like sort of a given since he hasn't played hardly at all). But, Stambouli to me is what we really need on the pitch. He's basically Parker but with more technical ability. He's a leader, he's got a great work rate and he's able to cover more ground than Capoue.
 

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I think Stambouli is going to have a bigger role as the season goes along (that sounds like sort of a given since he hasn't played hardly at all). But, Stambouli to me is what we really need on the pitch. He's basically Parker but with more technical ability. He's a leader, he's got a great work rate and he's able to cover more ground than Capoue.

I hope you're right and if you are, there's no need for Kramer surely?
 

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If we're banking on Vertonghen being worth a lot of money we may be disappointed. Thankfully, we've got some players who we easily could sell (Dembele, Paulinho, Lennon) that will account for decent chunks of money.

Agreed. If we think we're going to make anything near 20 million on a player after his cute little skip in defense against a player getting his first ever league start, or if he himself thinks a bigger club will even be interested after such a crock of shit, all parties will have to think again.

Vertonghen's a damn fool if he thinks he's too big for us but he allows something like that to happen.
 

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I hope you're right and if you are, there's no need for Kramer surely?

Exactly. Even if Poch has deemed Stambouli as requiring more time to adapt, surely that would make any investment in the price of Kramer a moot point.
 

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Agreed. If we think we're going to make anything near 20 million on a player after his cute little skip in defense against a player getting his first ever league start, or if he himself thinks a bigger club will even be interested after such a crock of shit, all parties will have to think again.

Vertonghen's a damn fool if he thinks he's too big for us but he allows something like that to happen.

Yeah, the goal given up at the weekend was inexcusable. Ayoze Perez, seriously? But I digress, if he's sold, it won't be for as much as many on here will think he's worth as they continue to live in 2012/13 when he was fantastic.
 

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If we're banking on Vertonghen being worth a lot of money we may be disappointed. Thankfully, we've got some players who we easily could sell (Dembele, Paulinho, Lennon) that will account for decent chunks of money.

Also you're assuming clubs will be prepared to pay anywhere near what Levy will want for the players you mentioned, with their recent form he'll have to take one hell of a loss (apart fron Lennon obviously). Players demanding out have more chance of leaving plus i think Verts will have more interest than them 3
 

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This rumor appeared shortly after his excellent display against big bad mighty Bayern over the weekend. Coincidence?
 

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I hope you're right and if you are, there's no need for Kramer surely?

I don't think Stambouli = Kramer = Schneiderlin. I think it's more that I view Stambouli = Capoue and Kramer could potentially be a realistic replacement to the likes of Schneiderlin with the potential to continue to improve. Kramer is similar to Schneiderlin in that he can function as a DM or he can function as the linchpin in keeping the attack ticking over in what many would consider a more balanced/expansive role in midfield.
 
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