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Glass half full or half empty?

nicdic

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Really blows my mind that anyone can seriously put forward an argument for glass half empty.

No one is or can say that we're perfect. There's clearly more to give and better performances possible. When you take the facts that have been repeated over and over in this thread already, there's no way that the things that need to improve can constitute a half empty position.
 

spurs9

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Because they have won matches not only against relegation fodders(sunderland, stoke etc) but also against good teams like(utd, monchengladbach,swansea) and while we won against relegation fodders like sunderland , stoke we drew or lost against good teams like pool/everton/monaco... that is the difference ...
Other than Utd, the highest placed team City have played are 13th, we have played 3 in the top 7. FYI, Swansea are 16th and Palace (who we beat) are 7th.
 

easley91

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We're 2nd, unbeaten, 3 goals conceded in 6 games (ALL from set pieces) and yet we're not at full throttle. Just wait til we are. Alli hasn't been as good, Kane injured, Rose, Dembele and Dier were injured for yesterday, Lamela didn't come on until 70 minute mark.

All cause for optimism.
 

SugarRay

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Liverpool are shit hot right now - absolutely top class. Could they beat us? Nope. We are a bloody hard team to beat right now. I'm very happy with that.

We weren't at the races that day either. We could have nicked it at the end too.
 

Grey Fox

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My glass would be full if we could be more clinical. If you look at other teams attempts on goal to scoring ratio and compare with ours its a bit frightening. I might be wrong , but I think Arsenal had 6 on target yesterday and scored 3, we had 31 attempts against Sunderland and scored 1. Perhaps its because of the age of the our squad that we are snatching at chances and getting a bit too excited in front of goal.
If it all comes together in one of our games I can see us tonking someone Wigan style.

I also not worried too much about beating the top "6" as its been proved before that if you beat the teams you should be beating you will end up near the top of the league. The youngsters on here need to take a chill pill and enjoy the ride, I am, because after 50+ years of watching some real dross I can't stop smiling these last couple of seasons
 

DIEHARD

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Other than Utd, the highest placed team City have played are 13th, we have played 3 in the top 7. FYI, Swansea are 16th and Palace (who we beat) are 7th.

I dont get these whole positions thing... its a load of bollocks half the time especially as not onky is it so early in the season but so dynamic. Ie palace are 7th now but i bet when we played them they were similiar to swanseas position.

I love how we are trying to find comfort in reasons why man city are top... oh because they played crap teams. We also played crap teams. So have liverpool and man utd and everyone.

Mwn city are better than us wnd thats because of two things... they play at a higher intensity and they are cut throat and Clinical.

My glass is half full its more than half full and it only needs a few drops to turn it into a full glass
 

CowInAComa

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I won't be happy until we learn how to go 90 mins without the opposing team touching the ball.

Until we do we are susceptible to them having attacks against us, shooting or heaven forbid scoring a goal.
Yesterday boro had a period where they almost had as much possession/chances as us for 15mins
 

Shadydan

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I dont get these whole positions thing... its a load of bollocks half the time especially as not onky is it so early in the season but so dynamic. Ie palace are 7th now but i bet when we played them they were similiar to swanseas position.

I love how we are trying to find comfort in reasons why man city are top... oh because they played crap teams. We also played crap teams. So have liverpool and man utd and everyone.

Mwn city are better than us wnd thats because of two things... they play at a higher intensity and they are cut throat and Clinical.

My glass is half full its more than half full and it only needs a few drops to turn it into a full glass

Positions give you a true reflection of how good you are thus far in the league, so if Man City are top it generally means they are the best team in the league and if Sunderland are bottom then they are the worst right? So if we are 2nd doesn't that mean we are currently the 2nd best team as we've currently accumulated the 2nd most points. Unless you can find another way to measure how good a team is after every round then I'd love to hear it.

Yes the crap team argument is well crap but the original poster who was putting us down used that in defence of their argument hence why people are responding with the same rebuttal.
 

DIEHARD

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Positions give you a true reflection of how good you are thus far in the league, so if Man City are top it generally means they are the best team in the league and if Sunderland are bottom then they are the worst right? So if we are 2nd doesn't that mean we are currently the 2nd best team as we've currently accumulated the 2nd most points. Unless you can find another way to measure how good a team is after every round then I'd love to hear it.

Yes the crap team argument is well crap but the original poster who was putting us down used that in defence of their argument hence why people are responding with the same rebuttal.

What i meant and aimed to debate is at which point is their league position determined... is it when we play the opposition or their position at the time of the discussion... hence the whole argument seems to be driven by the agenda and what yiure trying to get iut of the discussion.

I agree we discuss teams based on positions but more the three leagues within the league criteria. At the moment we are in the first six or seven and Palace are in the second, Swansea may well be third along with the likes of sunderland etc.

Its also funny because i read in the liverpool thread how theyre at their strongest when playing those that i would consider in the top echelons yet when i look at their results i see them bewting the likes of Hull yet also beating the likes of Chelsea. People try to find holes in other teams and driving their agenda by attempting to pick holes that arent really there.
 

Woodyy

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If we go on a run like we did for the middle of last season, considering how we started this season, we will definitely get top 4. If we do that and improve on our ending of last season we will probably win the league. All speculation but it's definitely going well, we need to beat Moscow though, it would be bad not to make it to the CL knock outs considering the group we've been given..
 

SugarRay

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I dont get these whole positions thing... its a load of bollocks half the time especially as not onky is it so early in the season but so dynamic. Ie palace are 7th now but i bet when we played them they were similiar to swanseas position.

I love how we are trying to find comfort in reasons why man city are top... oh because they played crap teams. We also played crap teams. So have liverpool and man utd and everyone.

Mwn city are better than us wnd thats because of two things... they play at a higher intensity and they are cut throat and Clinical.

My glass is half full its more than half full and it only needs a few drops to turn it into a full glass

City were odds on favourites and unbeaten without conceding a goal after 5 games last season.

The league table won't take shape until 25 games are played. I can't fucking wait for City next week. Bring Pep and his merrymen on.
 
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