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HotspurFC1950

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i don't think anyone in the media has said vertonghen received the pass inside his own half anyway.

One of many examples. " Paulinho passing to Vertonghen, inside his own half. Vertonghen carried the ball into Sunderland territory and responded to the crowd's urges to fire for goal, with the goalkeeper way behind the play. The ball hit the net; Vertonghen celebrated with gusto. "
 

tommo84

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Aug 15, 2005
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Watched our game on Football First last night and when the incident came up even the co-commentator said "What's the rule here?" So even so called football experts don't know the laws of the game.

No, it simply means the people who play the game aren't the experts they ought to be. But that's hardly a revelation to those of us who bemoan the standard of punditry in this country week after week.

The lino showed incompetence and the red showed a lack of control/leadership. At the very least the lino should be getting demoted but with Mike Riley in charge, I doubt anything will happen.
 

HotspurFC1950

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I just don't get why no one in world football wants video calls like they do in hockey. It fucking works beautifully in hockey, and it would in football too. There's no logical reason to be against it.

Also, bad refereeing calls should be allowed to be criticized by managers and players if they are actually bad. This protectionism against horrible decisions is doing my head in.


Agree.
 

yiddo23

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Pathetic decision. Disgusting that between the 2 officials they got that so horribly wrong. Everybody knows you cannot be offside when the ball is played and your in your own half. He was 5 yards onside

Should never run the line again at that level
Fly should be out as well he is just as culpable if not more so
 

CowInAComa

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For clarification of offside rule, go to the Harry hotspur analysis of why it was correctly called offside.
And basically it is the opposite of what he says.
 

SlickMongoose

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Feb 27, 2005
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For clarification of offside rule, go to the Harry hotspur analysis of why it was correctly called offside.
And basically it is the opposite of what he says.

Ahahahaha, the comments are hilarious. He's still arguing about it.

I've never read that blog before, I'm clearly not missing anything.
 

yankspurs

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Aug 22, 2013
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I keep hearing about how awful the call was as Vertonghen was clearly in our own half. Correct me if I am wrong, but why does that matter when a sunderland defender was about 10 yards in front of Vertonghen when the ball was played? Not only was Vertonghen clearly 5 yards in his own half, the defender was also clearly 5 yards in sunderland's own half. So Verts being in his own half really shouldnt matter, IMO. Unless Im wrong on the rule.

Nevertheless, it was an absolutely appalling decision and we are lucky it didnt effect the result..
 

Mr.D

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I keep hearing about how awful the call was as Vertonghen was clearly in our own half. Correct me if I am wrong, but why does that matter when a sunderland defender was about 10 yards in front of Vertonghen when the ball was played? Not only was Vertonghen clearly 5 yards in his own half, the defender was also clearly 5 yards in sunderland's own half. So Verts being in his own half really shouldnt matter, IMO. Unless Im wrong on the rule.

Nevertheless, it was an absolutely appalling decision and we are lucky it didnt effect the result..

There must be two players between the attacking player and the goal for him to be on side. The confusion comes because one of them is usually the goalkeeper. So if Verts was actually in the Sunderland half when the ball was played he would've been offside. But he wasn't.
 

yido_number1

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I keep hearing about how awful the call was as Vertonghen was clearly in our own half. Correct me if I am wrong, but why does that matter when a sunderland defender was about 10 yards in front of Vertonghen when the ball was played? Not only was Vertonghen clearly 5 yards in his own half, the defender was also clearly 5 yards in sunderland's own half. So Verts being in his own half really shouldnt matter, IMO. Unless Im wrong on the rule.

Nevertheless, it was an absolutely appalling decision and we are lucky it didnt effect the result..
Are you a lino to?
 

CowInAComa

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Ahahahaha, the comments are hilarious. He's still arguing about it.

I've never read that blog before, I'm clearly not missing anything.

He did call the Andy Carroll to Spurs transfer with similar certainty a couple seasons back.
 

CowInAComa

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Aug 31, 2012
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I keep hearing about how awful the call was as Vertonghen was clearly in our own half. Correct me if I am wrong, but why does that matter when a sunderland defender was about 10 yards in front of Vertonghen when the ball was played? Not only was Vertonghen clearly 5 yards in his own half, the defender was also clearly 5 yards in sunderland's own half. So Verts being in his own half really shouldnt matter, IMO. Unless Im wrong on the rule.

Nevertheless, it was an absolutely appalling decision and we are lucky it didnt effect the result..

You're wrong. 2 players needed.
 

ERO

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Jun 8, 2003
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For clarification of offside rule, go to the Harry hotspur analysis of why it was correctly called offside.
And basically it is the opposite of what he says.
Reading that blog, and his subsequent comments, was one of those times you get really embarrassed on behalf of humanity.
 

nightgoat

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Sep 12, 2005
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That wasn't even the only bad call he made. It was by far the worst, and most obvious. But also he didn't flag Defoe offside in the build up to the free kick Sunderland scored from, and he also gave Harry Kane offside when Adebayor put him in, even though he was clearly onside with no obstruction in the linesman's view.
 

Amo

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A similar thing happened for Dortmund aagainst Malaga in the quarter-final of the season where they reached the final.

The confusion is about offside of two players. Most assume it's one because they discount the goalkeeper. The one in our match was probably concentrating on the fact that there was only one player back, not two (since the keeper was upfield).

Terrible mistake but nothing dodgy or intentional.
 

tonyc

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Watched our game on Football First last night and when the incident came up even the co-commentator said "What's the rule here?" So even so called football experts don't know the laws of the game.

Maybe the decision was SO bizarre that they are questioning their own knowledge??
 

HotspurFC1950

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Officials are human. They will make mistakes. Likewise it is unrealistic to consider they can rid themselves completely of bias.
 

Spurger King

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Officials are human. They will make mistakes. Likewise it is unrealistic to consider they can rid themselves completely of bias.

There's a difference between making an error of judgement, and not understanding the rules of a game you're supposed to be an official for.

Everyone makes mistakes. Not everyone is completely incompetent at doing their job.
 
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