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Grant Hall, Alex Pritchard & Ryan Mason - Swindon Town

eddiebailey

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This is Spurs B team is a high risk strategy as the manager change has put a clanger in the works but they have to get promoted this season for this to work
I don't think that it is necessarily the case that Swindon have to get promoted for this strategy to be a success; it is about giving players guaranteed regular competitive football while playing in the Spurs style. Mason is catching up on the football he has missed; Pritchard is getting the chance to show he is not a lightweight luxury; for Hall this is probably the right level for this stage in his development. For Luongo, Byrne, Barcham and Kasim, they have gone to a club where what they have learnt at Spurs is appreciated and where they can progress their own careers at the same time as supporting the development of our loanees.

In the past we have relied on Harry's managerial mates phoning up and asking for favours in order to find loans for our lads; it was hit and miss at best. At Swindon the relationship is at board level, not managerial level; the club are completely skint so they are reliant on Spurs goodwill to put out a team, and any manager has to accept that that is the deal and play in the Spurs way. Dropping the loanees and reverting to hoofball because results are going against them is not an option; besides there is a sufficient critical mass of talented, well trained players to ensure that, if they keep playing our way, results will not go against them.

If Swindon do get promoted, then next season Mason, Pritchard and Hall might stay; otherwise, their reputation enhanced, they will move on to fresh challenges, and their places will be taken by, say, Bentaleb, McEvoy and Stewart; while one or two of this year's first year professionals will go on to swell the ex-Spurs ranks at the club, possibly replacing Luongo and Kasim, who on this form are going to be on plenty of clubs' shopping lists.

When you look at Mason's loans at Lorient and Millwall, or even his second spell at Donnie, when he could not get back in the team despite being fit, or consider that last season Luongo found himself dropped when Mick McCarthy was appointed manager at Ipswich, while Kasim was loaned out by Brighton to Luton and Maccelsfield and still could not get a game, it explains why the Swindon relationship is such a necessary and progressive step: for Spurs youth policy and for the the careers of our academy graduates, but perhaps also for the football league, who hopefully are going to learn from the Swindon example that it possible to play attractive, entertaining football and still thrive; ultimately it may even benefit the English game, if a resurgence in real football at football league level provides an increased talent pool of technical, gifted players - players who at the moment would be likely to end up on the scrap heap, as almost happened to Kasim, or to have all the creativity coached out of them, as doubtless would have happened to Luongo if he had stayed at Ipswich under McCarthy.
 

tonyc

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iirc Ryan had been offered (and signed) a 3 yr extension to his contract with us during the summer. On the basis of that alone, someone somewhere within our club still thinks he has a future here I would suggest.
 

theShiznit

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I really hope Mason can fulfil his promise as a player.

A genuine English No. 10 and would love it if he could make it for us. Seems to have had a lot of bad luck with the timing of injuries and/or managerial changes at loan clubs.

Lovely Ball for their first goal (vs Wolves) and when you hear that the goal was a 35-40 yard strike it doesn't tell you that it was in fact a placed curler!

If he carries on form and fitness for Swindon wouldn't surprise me if a Championship (or higher) club come in for him in January. (as long as he will play in the right system/position)
 

Mullers

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If Tom Carroll can't get into our squad, then I don't hold out much hope for these guys.
 

eddiebailey

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If Tom Carroll can't get into our squad, then I don't hold out much hope for these guys.

On the other hand you could see the success of Danny Rose and Andros Townsend so far this season as an indication that the laon system works, and that in time Tom Carroll, and perhaps Ryan Mason and Alex Pritchard will break through.
 

eddiebailey

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It will be interesting to see how they do tonight against Chelsea. Mason looks likely to be injured, but Pritchard should be back after suspension and Hall will start. Of the ex-Spurs I am very interested to see how Kasim and Luongo get on, but Byrne unfortunately is serving the final game of his three match ban.
 

Mullers

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On the other hand you could see the success of Danny Rose and Andros Townsend so far this season as an indication that the laon system works, and that in time Tom Carroll, and perhaps Ryan Mason and Alex Pritchard will break through.
Not really, I see it more as a lack of depth in their positions. Even more so in the case of Rose. Townsend is a good player, fortunately he can play left or right, I say fortunately because it's only a matter of time before Lamela is a regular starter.
 

eddiebailey

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Injuries happen, signings don't work out; there will always be chances. It is up to these lads to make sure that they take them and make it difficult for the manager to leave them out. Both Danny and Andros are working towards that at the moment.
 

Spursidol

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Not really, I see it more as a lack of depth in their positions. Even more so in the case of Rose. Townsend is a good player, fortunately he can play left or right, I say fortunately because it's only a matter of time before Lamela is a regular starter.

Spurs should play in 50 - 60+ matches this season :

Pl..............38
EL....Tiblisi...2
......Group....6
..Q/F - Final..2-7
FA Cup.........1 - 6
Capital 1 Cup.1 - 7.
Total............50 - 66 (I might be one or two out on the domestic cups, might be a few replays on top).

There is no way that Lamela will play more than say 45 matches (max) due to squad rotation with 2 matches a week and injuries. So there will be a need for an alternate rght winger for 20+ matches.

Same story on the left wing (if we have a standout permanant fixture there - which I doubt), so Townsend could end up with 40 matches between left and right wing, a lot of starts but also some from the bench.
 

Hoddle_Ledge

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#STFC XI v Chelsea - Foderingham, Thompson N, Hall, Ward, McEveley, Kasim, Luongo, Pritchard, Ajose, Ranger, N’Guessan.
 

Cornpattbuck

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Pritchard was fantastic. Kept finding space and probably saw more of the ball than anyone else on the pitch, which is testament to his movement with Chelsea playing two DMs and Luiz. He created plenty of moments, tackled hard and while the occasional decision was awry that's to be expected.

Overall felt Swindon were the much more interesting team to watch but lacked Chelsea's cutting-edge in the final third.
 

eddiebailey

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Looking at the Swindon forum, the consensus seems to be that Chelsea were happy to sit back and let Swindon keep possession; Luongo and Kasim, on whom they seem to have a collective man-crush, bossed midfield, but without Mason they lacked the final pass and did not do enough to force the issue. Pritchard lively but deemed to be a bit wasteful and needs to work on his corners. Concern about Hall seems to be a slight lack of pace.

Willian was apparently terrible.
 
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