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cwy21

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The offside is fun. It's 100% a goal before IFABs clarification update in August. Now it's offside.
 

cwy21

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Joshua shepherd

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He is interfering, the defender never tries to head it desperately if Griezmann isn't behind him.

I disagree with that, the defender heads it because Kolo Muani is challenging him for the ball. At the point the defender heads the ball, Griezmann isn’t even behind him.
 

RandAlThor

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So proud of the Socceroos and Arnold. Had a torrid qualification run where we played more games than any other side to qualify. Couldn't play any games at home and had to cobble sides together due to covid restrictions and other factors. This group didn't have the talent of the past but Arnold has used that to tap into the Aussie fighting spirit. It might not be pretty and I struggled to get through some of the qualifying games but it epitomises one of the things I love most about team sport and that is a team fighting for each other can defeat a more talented group of players. This achievement is bigger than making the round of 16 in Germany. So happy, so proud. Cmon boys. I dare to dream we can beat the Argies. Half my football team are from Argentina so we gonna have a blast on Sunday morning. Can't bloody wait.
 

taidgh

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The videos are at the bottom of the page.

But in summary since the defender was backing up and wasn't in full control of his body when he jumped to head it, the instruction is to consider it a deflection.

Had he gotten under the ball and was able to have a controlled jump and scuffed the header, then it's a deliberate play.
Wish they'd stop tweaking this and handball as well. Getting to the stage where no one knows what the laws are anymore.
 

cwy21

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Wish they'd stop tweaking this and handball as well. Getting to the stage where no one knows what the laws are anymore.
It was a direct result of the widespread outrage of the Mbappe goal in the NL final.

Everyone said this goal cannot stand and changes should be made. Well, these are the changes that were made after the global football community demanded.
 

taidgh

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It was a direct result of the widespread outrage of the Mbappe goal in the NL final.

Everyone said this goal cannot stand and changes should be made. Well, these are the changes that were made after the global football community demanded.
Similar reasoning has been used for many changes over the years, including, but ifab shouldn't be focusing on legislating for every possible incident. It makes it impossible for the average fan to know what the law is, and players and even referees too.
 

cwy21

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Similar reasoning has been used for many changes over the years, including, but ifab shouldn't be focusing on legislating for every possible incident. It makes it impossible for the average fan to know what the law is, and players and even referees too.
Sure but most fans didn't understand the interpretations before the changes. (Read through the thread for proof) I don't think that should be used as a reason to not improve things.
 

taidgh

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Sure but most fans didn't understand the interpretations before the changes. (Read through the thread for proof) I don't think that should be used as a reason to not improve things.
I think most fans would appreciate simplicity and consistency. The mindset of constantly trying to improve things is a big part of the problem. Imo, of course.
 

cwy21

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I think most fans would appreciate simplicity and consistency. The mindset of constantly trying to improve things is a big part of the problem. Imo, of course.

Simplicity sounds great but I don't think it's possible. There are too many variables when it comes to situations like this (and handball) that a set of interpretations is required. There's just no other options when it comes to making a subjective decision as a referee.
 

Marty

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I think most fans would appreciate simplicity and consistency. The mindset of constantly trying to improve things is a big part of the problem. Imo, of course.
Simplicity is the key word for me. I'd much rather take the word of Brian Clough (if a player isn't interfering with play, what the hell is he doing on the pitch?) and have a much more stringent offside rule than one that is so open to subjective interpretation.
 
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