Harry Admits He Was Indecisive During Transfer Window

[Pringle]

I'm not saying that they're a better side than us. I'm saying we look like we've missed a trick with this Suarez character.

Possibly, though he has only scored the 1 goal and by all accounts was shocking at West Ham last week. Good bit of play for the first goal today though - only time will tell.

 

[AngerManagement]

I'm not saying that they're a better side than us. I'm saying we look like we've missed a trick with this Suarez character.

Why are you making this point on a day in which 2 of our strikers scored 3 goals between them away from home? (screamers at that?)

How many did 'This Suarez character' score today?

We dropped points today because of 3 separate defensive errors, not because we lacked firepower from the transfer window (3 goals away from home against a team in the relegation zone should be more than enough to take the win)

Liverpool are not the better side than us, nor should we be overly worried about having not signed Suarez.

Truth be told, before BAle came on how many clear cut chances did we create for our strikers? yet they still scored 3 screamers and did more than enough to gain an away win with their efforts.

Today is not the day for your doom and gloom, not on that front anyway.... if you insist on being a gloommunger perhaps you would be better served focusing on the errors that have plagued our last two away performaces and cost us 5 points.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Why are you making this point on a day in which 2 of our strikers scored 3 goals between them away from home? (screamers at that?)

How many did 'This Suarez character' score today?

We dropped points today because of 3 separate defensive errors, not because we lacked firepower from the transfer window (3 goals away from home against a team in the relegation zone should be more than enough to take the win)

Liverpool are not the better side than us, nor should we be overly worried about having not signed Suarez.

Truth be told, before BAle came on how many clear cut chances did we create for our strikers? yet they still scored 3 screamers and did more than enough to gain an away win with their efforts.

Today is not the day for your doom and gloom, not on that front anyway.... if you insist on being a gloommunger perhaps you would be better served focusing on the errors that have plagued our last two away performaces and cost us 5 points.

I think you misunderstood my point.

 

[AngerManagement]

I think you misunderstood my point.

Your saying (in a thread about Harry messing up the transfer window) that we missed out on something special by not signing Suarez from Ajax, you also said "we're not looking too clever right now"

But today especially, we dropped points not because of anything that happened in the window or anyone we failed to sign but because (like the last game) we made some foolish school boy errors in defence having played more than well enough to win the game.

Ok maybe I am missing your point, what is your point then?

The way I perceived it was you were suggesting we lacked someone of the quality of Suarez and therefore if we had signed him we would have done better today.

IF that's not your point I don't get why you made it in this thread on this day?!!?

 

[SpurSince57]

I'm not saying that they're a better side than us. I'm saying we look like we've missed a trick with this Suarez character.

You're assuming he'd have picked us over Liverpool. Not that I set a great deal of store on ITK, but it's all we have to go on, and what we had on Suarez said that he was sold on the Scousers.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

You're assuming he'd have picked us over Liverpool. Not that I set a great deal of store on ITK, but it's all we have to go on, and what we had on Suarez said that he was sold on the Scousers.

I hear you. If Suarez was genuinely sold on the Bin Dippers, I'd imagine it might have had something to do with our lukewarm interest in him.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Your saying (in a thread about Harry messing up the transfer window) that we missed out on something special by not signing Suarez from Ajax, you also said "we're not looking too clever right now"

But today especially, we dropped points not because of anything that happened in the window or anyone we failed to sign but because (like the last game) we made some foolish school boy errors in defence having played more than well enough to win the game.

Ok maybe I am missing your point, what is your point then?

The way I perceived it was you were suggesting we lacked someone of the quality of Suarez and therefore if we had signed him we would have done better today.

IF that's not your point I don't get why you made it in this thread on this day?!!?

Did you see what time I made that post about Suarez?

I know why we lost the game today. You're getting your wires crossed here.

 

[SpurSince57]

I hear you. If Suarez was genuinely sold on the Bin Dippers, I'd imagine it might have had something to do with our lukewarm interest in him.

You can imagine what you like, and I can imagine what I like. We don't know.

Harry may have got it wrong—I was pretty keen on Suarez, for all that he's a cheating, diving little shit, and have been for 18 months or so—but if he wasn't 100% sure, for whatever reason, then he's perfectly entitled to say 'pass'.

 

[hybridsoldier]

I feel in our category of transfer fees and wages, Suarez was the pick of the bunch and we blew it really.

As Suarez is showing, even when he doesn't score he is a nuisance and creates for others, this is not the case with Defoe or Pavlyuchenko. Additionally he can happily play on either wing or behind the striker as his work rate is terrific and makes a good bash of it and a problem for defenders in all those positions.

People can say what they want and everything but when you look at it REALISTICALLY, the opportunity to sign a player of Suarez's ability and potential will not come again for that price again....a price we could comfortably afford.

Harry doesn't get much wrong, I still believe our set of strikers can sneak us into 4th place and do well in the CL. But Suarez would have been that Tevez/Aguero/Rooney type striker who works his arse off and doesn't give defenders a break.

I among others have felt this way since the start of Jan and then subsequently when Liverpool bought him, its not just because they beat Man U 3-0 and we drew 3-3 at Wolves (a good result tbh if we hadn't dropped points at home to Wigan and Sunderland and been poor at WHAM, Blackpool and Bolton)

 

[Darrkespur]

Although he was great today and looks a cracking player, I don't necessarily agree that he would have been perfect for us, he seems to be a bit too much of a support/wing striker and would likely be taking up the same positions as Bale/VDV/Lennon a bit too much and we'd have no one in the middle. He's a great player so he'd be good for us, but I think in a lot of games he would cause us more tactical problems than he would solve.

 

[SpurSince57]

I feel in our category of transfer fees and wages, Suarez was the pick of the bunch and we blew it really.

As Suarez is showing, even when he doesn't score he is a nuisance and creates for others, this is not the case with Defoe or Pavlyuchenko. Additionally he can happily play on either wing or behind the striker as his work rate is terrific and makes a good bash of it and a problem for defenders in all those positions.

People can say what they want and everything but when you look at it REALISTICALLY, the opportunity to sign a player of Suarez's ability and potential will not come again for that price again....a price we could comfortably afford.

Harry doesn't get much wrong, I still believe our set of strikers can sneak us into 4th place and do well in the CL. But Suarez would have been that Tevez/Aguero/Rooney type striker who works his arse off and doesn't give defenders a break.

I among others have felt this way since the start of Jan and then subsequently when Liverpool bought him, its not just because they beat Man U 3-0 and we drew 3-3 at Wolves (a good result tbh if we hadn't dropped points at home to Wigan and Sunderland and been poor at WHAM, Blackpool and Bolton)

And if the queen had bollocks she would be king.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

I appreciate what you're saying, Darrkespur. But you could probably say the same about a lot of the strikers we were sniffing around.

 

[AngerManagement]

The bottom line Ajax wanted too much for Suarez, Liverpool were prepared to pay it because they were about to sell Torres for a huge fee and could easily relocate the funds from that sale for the suarez deal.

No doubt if we had an asset we were about to sell for £50m would wouldn't have worried about selling Suarez either.

You also have to factor in whether we even could have signed him, wage structure wise it seems Liverpool are still able to best us head to head for a player (see JOe Cole) so why does everyone assume we simply turned Suarez down and he went to Liverpool when the truth my well be closer to he wanted to joing Liverpool more than us anyway? (and or they could afford to pay his transfer fee where we felt it was a big risk)

HE has only played a handful of games thus far, it;s a long way from being a time in which we can tell if he will be a success in our league or not.

 

[steventhfc]

A striker would of done something with all this bollocks.

 

[nferno]

im glad someone bumped this thread, why didnt we just break the fucking bank transfer fee and wages wise. for fuck sake so frustrating how shit defoe is.

 

[nedley]

im glad someone bumped this thread, why didnt we just break the fucking bank transfer fee and wages wise. for fuck sake so frustrating how shit defoe is.

The point is we didn't even have to break the bank. There MUST have been a striker out there who could have added abit of competition for places. Even as a short term measure that could have freshened things up.

Demba Ba for one.

Our forward line really is piss poor and we have known this for a while now.

Thank fuck for VDV. I try to forget that he fell onto our lap.

 

[mattyspurs]

The point is we didn't even have to break the bank. There MUST have been a striker out there who could have added abit of competition for places. Even as a short term measure that could have freshened things up.

Demba Ba for one.

Our forward line really is piss poor and we have known this for a while now.

Thank fuck for VDV. I try to forget that he fell onto our lap.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but can you imagine the outrage if on 31st January we had come out and said that we had signed Demba Ba. There would have been a fucking outrage!

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Suarez was right in every way (type, age, price, temperament, ability). I don't think it would have solved all our problems, but it would sure as hell have solved one. I'm gutted every week we didn't sign him.

Tenacious strikers with ability are hard to find, and at 20ish mill he was steal.

Blunder.

 

[Mr Pink]

Suarez was right in every way (type, age, price, temperament, ability). I don't think it would have solved all our problems, but it would sure as hell have solved one. I'm gutted every week we didn't sign him.

Tenacious strikers with ability are hard to find, and at 20ish mill he was steal.

Blunder.

Agree with you on this one - wholeheartedly.

 

[SpurSince57]

That's assuming he'd have wanted to come to us rather than Liverpool.