Harry and his excuses.

[stemark44]

Harry really makes me laugh.
A few weeks ago he was talking about young players going out on loan and not making enough of their opportunities.He said they would come back and complain that the team wasn't set up for them to play well,that the long ball game didn't suit them or that they didn't get enough playing time.
Basically he was saying that they were just making excuses and that it pretty much wouldn't wear with him.

All I hear now is Harry making excuses about other teams being able to spend more money,offer more wages,it's so tough to get into the top 4 with all those other tough teams and its really tough to win games in the Premiership.
He then suggests that players haven't performed and we need more winners in the team.

Perhaps that winning mentality should start with the manager and he could start by cutting out the excuses.

Using Alex Ferguson's winning mentality as his example his major target should be to knock Man United off their perch and nothing else.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

I wouldn't mind knocking Harry off his perch.

 

[Viva la Tottenham]

:sleepy:

 

[GlennHoddle]

wot a site this has turned into - from front page news to spurs chat, itk and a daily itk thread being closed - the constant moaning and whinging about Harry - i can't fathom why people see the need to criticise our management based on media "fact!" that they read in the red top rags.
I have never had it so good being a Spurs fan so am enjoying the rollercoaster
Get behind your team, complain when we lose to Bpool, and play sh*t, applaud when we win away at the Scum and at Anfield, don't jump on the mgts backs at every given opportunity just because some lazy journalist implies that you should

 

[dvdhopeful]

I wouldn't mind knocking Harry off his perch.

Yea I cannot wait to see our manager fall from grace, the bastard

 

[jonathanhotspur]

wot a site this has turned into - from front page news to spurs chat, itk and a daily itk thread being closed - the constant moaning and whinging about Harry - i can't fathom why people see the need to criticise our management based on media "fact!" that they read in the red top rags.
I have never had it so good being a Spurs fan so am enjoying the rollercoaster
Get behind your team, complain when we lose to Bpool, and play sh*t, applaud when we win away at the Scum and at Anfield, don't jump on the mgts backs at every given opportunity just because some lazy journalist implies that you should

Which "lazy journalist" is on Harry's back?

 

[thfc1989]

wot a site this has turned into - from front page news to spurs chat, itk and a daily itk thread being closed - the constant moaning and whinging about Harry - i can't fathom why people see the need to criticise our management based on media "fact!" that they read in the red top rags.
I have never had it so good being a Spurs fan so am enjoying the rollercoaster
Get behind your team, complain when we lose to Bpool, and play sh*t, applaud when we win away at the Scum and at Anfield, don't jump on the mgts backs at every given opportunity just because some lazy journalist implies that you should

There is a reason why spurs fans are generally regarded as very fickle, awful bunch

 

[StartingPrice]

A disappointing end to the season, but it is highly likely that we will finish above Liverpool for the second season running. Dare I point out that if not for Citeh and their millions this would have equated to finally breaking up the mythologised Big Four.

How dare 'Arry:duh:

 

[thfc1989]

I wouldn't mind knocking Harry off his perch.

So what you are saying is that you would rather see us fail so that our most successful manager in the premiership era is "knocked off his perch". What a great spurs fan you are!

 

[jonathanhotspur]

So what you are saying is that you would rather see us fail so that our most successful manager in the premiership era is "knocked off his perch". What a great spurs fan you are!

Shush, you bootlicker.

 

[arnoldlayne]

I wouldn't mind knocking Harry off his perch.

Not even Gerry Francis could come up with as many excuses and he did have an awful team

 

[Ribble]

A disappointing end to the season, but it is highly likely that we will finish above Liverpool for the second season running. Dare I point out that if not for Citeh and their millions this would have equated to finally breaking up the mythologised Big Four.

How dare 'Arry:duh:

Given they had one of the worst starts in their history and were flirting with the relegation zone how can you give credit for that to Harry, pray tell? How about the fact we may not finish above them given their start, how does that fall into your view?

 

[AngerManagement]

This whole view point is pathetic in my opinion.

People forget where we have come from, how far we have come and how well we are progressing too easy.

I knew the fickle fans would be up in arms at the first sign of a set back.

Rome wasn't built in a day, our league is very competitive. We have made massive strides in a very short time and we are still in a great position to continue to progress next season and the seasons that come.

People should respect what Redknapp has done for us and I can't believe so many would turn on him at the first disappointment.

Yes the end of season was frustrating, does that undo all of the great work that preceeded? does it signal an end to our progression? no.... if we keep hold of our best players and invest in the right players to take our squad forward this summer we can easily come back stronger in the coming season.

Two steps forward for a step back is what we should be focusing on, not looking to tear the roof off in progress because we had a little set back. The arrogant attitude of some spurs fans make me sick, if we win tomorrow we will have finished fifth in the league (something we never did ever in the PL until Martin Jol was in charge and we would have done so whilst undertaking a difficult CL run...with misfiring strikers to boot.

We are still playing easily THE BEST football I have ever seen the club play and we are still very much capable of challenging for the CL places and silverwear next season.

How about a little benefit of the doubt? I think harry has earned that much. Let's see how this transfer window goes and how our squad takes shape for the start of next season before we reach for the daggers to jam into Redknapps badge.

One thing I do know is lack of stabilty and constant managerial and squad changes is what leave a club in limbo and I think we should think before we start wishing for things we really might not want i.e. a new manager that would lead to yet another squad overhaul and basically leave us starting from scratch once more.

 

[StartingPrice]

Given they had one of the worst starts in their history and were flirting with the relegation zone how can you give credit for that to Harry, pray tell? How about the fact we may not finish above them given their start, how does that fall into your view?

Swings in roundabouts...they ahd a bad start, we had a bad final thrid.

I'm not giving 'Arry credit for it, I'm kinda hinting that he doesn't really have that much to answer to.

And before we get the rant - yeah, I know it was disappointing; I had money on us to finish Top 4 from the start of the season. And, no, that doesn't exclude the possibility that 'Arry has made mistakes, because he clearly has. It just means I am stating flat out, as my oopinion which I am perfectly entitled to, that some Spurs fans/posters on FC, have gone so overboard that they sound like hysterical children.

 

[kdspur]

ridiculous post. harry is manager of spurs. had our best two seasons under him in 40 years or more. yes we are few players short but he is dead right to treat players the way he does. they are all spoiled brats who who turn up in big flash mtors and desinger gear and think they are the dog bollocks and thats just the kids.he is obviuolsy not impressed with application imo he dosent slag them off enough. and dont even start me on some of first team. young players today are all atitude with high opinions of themselves and nothing else really.

the pressure is on spurs but when u pay less wages for players how can u expect to cherry pick the top players- thats not harrys fault, what can he do?

and he is just stating obvious what we need.. more leaders, more character and fucking proper players.nothing wrong with that either. pity we cant get proper fans.

 

[Ribble]

Swings in roundabouts...they ahd a bad start, we had a bad final thrid.

I'm not giving 'Arry credit for it, I'm kinda hinting that he doesn't really have that much to answer to.

And before we get the rant - yeah, I know it was disappointing; I had money on us to finish Top 4 from the start of the season. And, no, that doesn't exclude the possibility that 'Arry has made mistakes, because he clearly has. It just means I am stating flat out, as my oopinion which I am perfectly entitled to, that some Spurs fans/posters on FC, have gone so overboard that they sound like hysterical children.

Fair enough, your opinion is your own and all that. However what I think some people are forgetting is that those who want a managerial change do so because they are concerned for the club, rather than due to anything else.

 

[StartingPrice]

Fair enough, your opinion is your own and all that. However what I think some people are forgetting is that those who want a managerial change do so because they are concerned for the club, rather than due to anything else.

I know.
But it's a circular argument.
There are concerned for the club, based on a disappointing spell (all clubs have them), in what was, otherwise, a pretty decent season (in totality).
Take last time out, we absolutely biatch-slapped the Scousers at Anfield (well, not absolutely, that's a bit of an exaggeration - we were good, though), minus one of our best players. That result only highlighted what we all know - our real problem has been in breaking down lesser teams (with all due respect), who now, rightly, treat us like a proper big club, and sit deep and stifle play. Against decent to good teams who play, we are still the pretty decent outfit we were last season, and for the first two thirds of this. Noticeably, it was against these type of teams that our disappointing spell occurred.

The management made a mistake. They should have strengthened the striking options last Summer - although, in a sense, they did, they brought VDV. And they didn't know that our strikers couldn't perform with him, They did in January, which was when the real failing occurred. But it's not like we hada relegatio fight, or anything.

So, we need to change the manager who has given us our two best seasons, in real terms, since 1987, because of one disappointing period, which will probably see us finishing 5th instead of higher, and an underestimation in the transfer window:shrug: I just don't buy it. Let's wait a while beforedeclaring Mr Redknapp MIA, eh:shrug:

 

[Viva la Tottenham]

This whole view point is pathetic in my opinion.

People forget where we have come from, how far we have come and how well we are progressing too easy.

I knew the fickle fans would be up in arms at the first sign of a set back.

Rome wasn't built in a day, our league is very competitive. We have made massive strides in a very short time and we are still in a great position to continue to progress next season and the seasons that come.

People should respect what Redknapp has done for us and I can't believe so many would turn on him at the first disappointment.

Yes the end of season was frustrating, does that undo all of the great work that preceeded? does it signal an end to our progression? no.... if we keep hold of our best players and invest in the right players to take our squad forward this summer we can easily come back stronger in the coming season.

Two steps forward for a step back is what we should be focusing on, not looking to tear the roof off in progress because we had a little set back. The arrogant attitude of some spurs fans make me sick, if we win tomorrow we will have finished fifth in the league (something we never did ever in the PL until Martin Jol was in charge and we would have done so whilst undertaking a difficult CL run...with misfiring strikers to boot.

We are still playing easily THE BEST football I have ever seen the club play and we are still very much capable of challenging for the CL places and silverwear next season.

How about a little benefit of the doubt? I think harry has earned that much. Let's see how this transfer window goes and how our squad takes shape for the start of next season before we reach for the daggers to jam into Redknapps badge.

One thing I do know is lack of stabilty and constant managerial and squad changes is what leave a club in limbo and I think we should think before we start wishing for things we really might not want i.e. a new manager that would lead to yet another squad overhaul and basically leave us starting from scratch once more.

:clap: bunch of spoilt taarabts we got supporting Tottenham

 

[AngerManagement]

I think more blame has to be aimed at the strikers who failed to produce up to the standard they are all more than capable than does the manager who chose to show faith in them rather than spank out millions of replacements he was not sure about.

Yes in hindsight upgrades were needed, but who could have known Defoe/Crouch/Pav would have been so inept this season?

I am sure (like now) we wanted to buy better but who was available and for what price (and wage) we do not know. Buying new players is not as easy as playing championship manager. Liverpool took huge action, but then they were in greater need and had an assest being sold for £50m which needed replacing anyhow (plus they are a more established club with a bigger wage budget) if someone would have given us £50m for Crouch I bet we would have happily spent similar fees on two replacements.

At the end of the day, in my mind anyway our strikers should shoulder the brunt of the blame for how they preformed because they were woeful when each was capable of better. Now is the time they should be moved on and replaced, it is now that Harry and Mr Levy need to show the clubs ambition and desire to get back in the CL by buying a striker or two (and a couple of other key additions) that can match the rest of the quality in our squad and really make us a unit capable of sustaining a challenge from start to finish.

 

[BorisTM]

Harry really makes me laugh.
A few weeks ago he was talking about young players going out on loan and not making enough of their opportunities.He said they would come back and complain that the team wasn't set up for them to play well,that the long ball game didn't suit them or that they didn't get enough playing time.
Basically he was saying that they were just making excuses and that it pretty much wouldn't wear with him.

All I hear now is Harry making excuses about other teams being able to spend more money,offer more wages,it's so tough to get into the top 4 with all those other tough teams and its really tough to win games in the Premiership.
He then suggests that players haven't performed and we need more winners in the team.

Perhaps that winning mentality should start with the manager and he could start by cutting out the excuses.

Using Alex Ferguson's winning mentality as his example his major target should be to knock Man United off their perch and nothing else.

I am sick and tired of listening to Arry and his "we need to buy this or that", when we already have the "this and that" coming out of our own academy. If Ekotto and Bale had not gotten injured at the same time who would have ever thought of using Rose as a left back let alone performing so well? He gives the young players one game to "impress" and when they dont live up to his "standards" he sends them out on loans.

If what the young players are saying is true, then I was right when I was saying that sending them on loans to lower league teams was not a good idea. Can we just stop buying FFS?