Harry Kane

[dontcallme]

Yeah we are all guessing. I reckon he’s already been told he’s not going anywhere. Let’s see if Man City bid again or hopefully fuck off. If he hasn’t gone by the first game of the season then you can guarantee we’ll be getting a bid a day or two before we play them!

The thing is, I don't think they'll move for him this summer.

To get a strong squad they'll want the best British players they can get for homegrown quotas. Saka, Rice and Phillips are more affordable and obtainable to them.

 

[Yiddo100]

2 up top with ings, yes please

 

[Duskwen]

2 up top with ings, yes please

Cheers sons crying

 

[Guntz]

Ings transfer thread please?

 

[Guntz]

Cheers sons crying

Nah we'll be cooking ?

Ings-----------Son
Kane
​

Or 4-4-2 like Nuno played at Valenica

Kane-----------Ings

Son-----------PEH-------------Ndombele------------Lo Celso​

 

[rawhide]

You never can truly tell what a person might do if pushed into a corner though. In all likelihood he’d knuckle down but you never know.

Nobody puts Kane in the corner…

Oh, I’ve had…

 

[Hotspur88]

Ings transfer thread please?

We had a very strong interest when Jose was in charge and if he was still here I would be extremely confident it would have happened. I haven't heard whether Paratici and Nuno like him but I would be surprised due to his contract situation if we weren't seriously considering him.

 

[Trent Crimm]

I just want to say I was really proud to see a Spurs player leading England to a Cup Final.

Harry is a fantastic role model and I hope we see him in a Spurs shirt again this forthcoming season. Enjoy it whilst we can.

And losing said final.

 

[rawhide]

And losing said final.

No, he clearly didn’t say that. Not a lot of English were pleased about that. Scots, however…

 

[Cel]

I see your point mate, but held against his will? Blocked his career goals?

Nobody held a gun to his head when he agreed to sign his extremely lucrative 6 year contract back in 2018.

If his career goals are what you're thinking, ie a move elsewhere, he's the one who's ultimately blocked his path & the club has every right to hold him to his contract for the entirety of it, or until someone makes a ludicrously huge offer to make the club think of letting him go.

TBF, did start the post saying I had not read anything saying he wanted to go anywhere, nor did I anywhere say we should sell him cheap. I'll be devastated if he goes, and fully on board with holding out for a world record fee.

Was replying to a post about about holding on to him for a whole 3 years against his wishes, and musing on the optics of that, especially with agents.

My personal opinion is he wont kick up a public fuss, and I can't see him handing in a transfer request either, for what little my opinion is worth on the matter

I'll bite though, as it's an interesting one. In that scenario where Harry wants to go, how do you reckon he blocked his own career path?

I'm not fully agreeing with the money - It's obvi a ludicrous amount to me in isolation, but far less than he'd have got at City, or United in comparison. If anything he undersold himself to stay here.

So what was his mistake? Believing the club would continue to improve to match one of Europe's best players ambition? (I was certainly suckered here, as a fan tbh)

I'd say it's the opposite. The club have blocked his path, and he has the right to be unhappy about it, in private, which is where he would be.

Cos the other way I look at that, the company sold a star employee a vison of a bright future to get him to get him to sign a contract, and have not lived up to their side of the deal, and now offer a worse environment to do so. Worse Coaching, worse co-workers, worse competitions to work in, with no real signs or progress, especially after this car crash of a summer.

I am having a crap day at work though, so may be adding to the grumpiness, admittedly.

 

[p.l.edmonds]

Well, it's not nothing I guess, it's paying 50m a year for 3 years of Harry Kane. Not sure if that adds up to maximised value from the deal, by it's defo not nothing.

Assuming he is desperate to leave (I still haven't seen stronger than a crossroads, and wanting a discussion, but admittedly may have missed it), the issue to me more lies with up and coming players seeing we've held on against his will, and blocked his career goals and steering clear of us if so, as they don't want the same to happen.

It doesn't seem to have done Palace any harm, signing Eze, Olise and Ferguson (all players it seemed like we had an interest in, and us fans were pretty much universally in favour of, btw) after keeping Zaha seemingly against his will for several transfer windows running.

 

[Cel]

Ings transfer thread please?

If I wasn't hated enough being a spurs fan in Southampton, this'll do it

 

[Trix]

You can't ignore @yankspurs sadly.

Err 100% you can.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

TBF, did start the post saying I had not read anything saying he wanted to go anywhere, nor did I anywhere say we should sell him cheap. I'll be devastated if he goes, and fully on board with holding out for a world record fee.

Was replying to a post about about holding on to him for a whole 3 years against his wishes, and musing on the optics of that, especially with agents.

My personal opinion is he wont kick up a public fuss, and I can't see him handing in a transfer request either, for what little my opinion is worth on the matter

I'll bite though, as it's an interesting one. In that scenario where Harry wants to go, how do you reckon he blocked his own career path?

I'm not fully agreeing with the money - It's obvi a ludicrous amount to me in isolation, but far less than he'd have got at City, or United in comparison. If anything he undersold himself to stay here.

So what was his mistake? Believing the club would continue to improve to match one of Europe's best players ambition? (I was certainly suckered here, as a fan tbh)

I'd say it's the opposite. The club have blocked his path, and he has the right to be unhappy about it, in private, which is where he would be.

Cos the other way I look at that, the company sold a star employee a vison of a bright future to get him to get him to sign a contract, and have not lived up to their side of the deal, and now offer a worse environment to do so. Worse Coaching, worse co-workers, worse competitions to work in, with no real signs or progress, especially after this car crash of a summer.

I am having a crap day at work though, so may be adding to the grumpiness, admittedly.

Sorry bud, but my point was pretty clear.

Nobody forced him to sign a contract that binds him to the club for 6 years. He did it of his own free will.

He could've had clauses put into it that allowed him to leave if he wasn't happy with the direction the club is going in, even though he said himself he'd stay as long as the club showed ambition, or was progressing. Yet he didn't have those clauses put in (as far as we know) and happily signed the contract.

He's had the choices & opportunities to protect his future, just as the club has had the opportunity to protect its own future when it comes to holding on to such a talent.

Yes the club has gone backwards since he signed the contract, but he could've asked for a shorter one. He didn't, which is not the fault of the club.

I see your point, I see Kanes point. I'm not protecting, or speaking in favour of the club. I'm merely stating that his hands have been tied by either himself or his agent, when signing that contract 3 years ago.

If he wants out now, he'll have to submit an official transfer request, probably have to forego any bonuses or incentives within his contract & even then, the club do not have to accept his transfer request.

Yeah I can sympathise with his supposed desire to win domestic titles etc. I can't sympathise with him for wanting out half way through a contract he willingly & happily signed.

That said. I hope your day gets better after work & your grumpiness subsides a little. You miserable ****.

 

[kent brockman]

I'm not fully agreeing with the money - It's obvi a ludicrous amount to me in isolation, but far less than he'd have got at City, or United in comparison. If anything he undersold himself to stay here.

So what was his mistake? Believing the club would continue to improve to match one of Europe's best players ambition? (I was certainly suckered here, as a fan tbh)

I'd say it's the opposite. The club have blocked his path, and he has the right to be unhappy about it, in private, which is where he would be.

Cos the other way I look at that, the company sold a star employee a vison of a bright future to get him to get him to sign a contract, and have not lived up to their side of the deal, and now offer a worse environment to do so. Worse Coaching, worse co-workers, worse competitions to work in, with no real signs or progress, especially after this car crash of a summer.

I hear what you are saying. But In the opposite scenario, if the club wants rid of a player who does not live up to the club’s initial expectations - the club will always have to honor the contract (e.g. Winston Bogarde, Danny Rose etc). So if the club should be on the hook for the entire contract period, so should the player. Having said that, in reality, a player who goes on strike will pretty much always get his way eventually (like Berba, Modric, Bale etc).

 

[Romario]

May I ask please how much truth you all put in the story that Harry claims he has a 'gentleman's agreement' with Daniel regarding his future which was discussed prior to last season ?

This link is one of many that refers to such a deal https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...Harry-Kane-agreement-Man-Utd-Man-City-Chelsea

I could understand the logic of such a discussion taking place (if it did) from the point of view of both sides but I'd be interested to see how many members in here think that perhaps a conversation did take place or is it all just media hype ?

 

[Cel]

May I ask please how much truth you all put in the story that Harry claims he has a 'gentleman's agreement' with Daniel regarding his future which was discussed prior to last season ?

This link is one of many that refers to such a deal https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...Harry-Kane-agreement-Man-Utd-Man-City-Chelsea

I could understand the logic of such a discussion taking place (if it did) from the point of view of both sides but I'd be interested to see how many members in here think that perhaps a conversation did take place or is it all just media hype ?

If I had to guess? There was a conversation, and the Media have the sniff of a story and have massively overstated it, as per.

Complete guess, but Harry went to see Danny Boy last summer as things weren't going great. Conversation along the lines of, we have one of the most successful managers of all time in - lets see what happens, and talk this time next year if you still have concerns. Harry walks away satisfied, but the next year is a bit of a horror show. This years convo will be a lot harder for Paratici and Levy to keep him happy, as he's already expected things to get better off of last years chat. So not a gentleman's agreement he can leave as such, more he's owed a serious conversation & Explanation re: spurs immediate future, and how things are going to improve, and his future, hence the crossroads thing. Doubt we'll ever fully know though ?‍

 

[JCRD]

Hank gets a lot of stick in here. I dont agree with a lot of things he says, he may not agree with much of what I say.
Thats why its called a game of opinions because not all are the same.
We don't have to agree and being perfectly honest i'm glad everyone doesn't agree or a forum would be pointless.
Some of the flippant comments aimed at Hank recently have left me feeling a little uncomfortable. Yes Hank does spout controversially differing opinions to most. BUT, its an opinion, agree or disagree all you want.
Don't attack him as a person, we don't know him

But his name isnt Hank?

I like Hank, he speaks his mind and is clearly passionate about Spurs. He doesnt sugarcoat nor does he mince his words - that for me is fine.

 

[kd2000]

But his name isnt Hank?

I like Hank, he speaks his mind and is clearly passionate about Spurs. He doesnt sugarcoat nor does he mince his words - that for me is fine.

In fairness I don't know his actual name.
I also don't know if he has a GSOH or likes long walks on the beach.
People call him Hank, and I guess I am more a follower than a leader, despite being a manager by occupation

 

[GMI]

But his name isnt Hank?

I like Hank, he speaks his mind and is clearly passionate about Spurs. He doesnt sugarcoat nor does he mince his words - that for me is fine.

His name was revealed somewhere in the new manager thread but like most of that thread it’s best left unspoken of. ?