Harry Kane

[fishhhandaricecake]

I’d really prefer that we sold him and if it’s to a non PL team then especially so.

Get £80m+ for him, move him and Lloris on.

Use the Kane money + other sales and our overall transfer budget money to bring in Maddison, put Richy or Sonny up top as a pressing forward, buy Kyogo and a top class versatile wide AM someone like Jota from Celtic or Eze/Ollise.

Upgrade the defence with Tabsoba and Van Der Ven and make Lenglet permanent.

Rebuild phase 1 complete:
Vicario/Forster

Porro/Royal/Spence
Romero/Van Der Ven
Tapsoba/Lenglet
Udogie/Reguillon/Davies or Sess

Bentancur/Skipp
Bissouma/Sarr

Eze/Jota
Maddison/Kulu
Son/Perisic

Richy/Kyogo

To me that team is a much better overall team than one we would have if we kept Kane and had a far smaller budget, it has creativity and goals from all areas. Sure it might take a bit of time to click with new faces and younger players but that’s the part of a rebuild, 1 step back to go 2 forwards.

Bayern up their offer to a suitable amount, we let a very good club servant go to a non PL rival to win a few Bundesliga’s and have a small chance in the CL and we give Ange a serious budget to work with to build a brand new team.

 

[robotsonic]

People saying they don’t care about the money will have a different view next season when we sign a FW for £40m instead of £70-80m and Kanes holding a Man U shirt.

What 80m player is going to come to Tottenham?

Or is that a 50m player, but we're paying 80m because the selling club knows that we have a bag full of Kane money?

 

[Scot-Spur]

I’d really prefer that we sold him and if it’s to a non PL team then especially so.

Get £80m+ for him, move him and Lloris on.

Use the Kane money + other sales and our overall transfer budget money to bring in Maddison, put Richy or Sonny up top as a pressing forward, buy Kyogo and a top class versatile wide AM someone like Jota from Celtic or Eze/Ollise.

Upgrade the defence with Tabsoba and Van Der Ven and make Lenglet permanent.

Rebuild phase 1 complete:
Vicario/Forster

Porro/Royal/Spence
Romero/Van Der Ven
Tapsoba/Lenglet
Udogie/Reguillon/Davies or Sess

Bentancur/Skipp
Bissouma/Sarr

Eze/Jota
Maddison/Kulu
Son/Perisic

Richy/Kyogo

To me that team is a much better overall team than one we would have if we kept Kane and had a far smaller budget, it has creativity and goals from all areas. Sure it might take a bit of time to click with new faces and younger players but that’s the part of a rebuild, 1 step back to go 2 forwards.

Bayern up their offer to a suitable amount, we let a very good club servant go to a non PL rival to win a few Bundesliga’s and have a small chance in the CL and we give Ange a serious budget to work with to build a brand new team.

I’m sorry but if we brought in Kyogo and Jota with the Kane money that would be horrific.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

I’m sorry but if we brought in Kyogo and Jota with the Kane money that would be horrific.

Now imagine we bought nobody...

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Might be off base here but to me, the money’s kind of irrelevant - losing one of the best players in the world that we couldn’t replace would almost certainly mean a worse season - so less prize money, less tv money, less fan interaction. Besides, I can’t believe the summer of 2013 didn’t convince our fans that selling your best player will always make your team worse.

This is most certainly NOT the case in terms of selling your best player ‘ALWAYS’ making your team worse.

It totally depends on the overall situation at the time, how is the rest of the squad, age and contract length of best player, scouting and transfers brought in with the budget provided by selling your best player.

We signed Eriksen and 4-5 duds when we sold Bale, if we’d signed 4-5 players of the value and quality of Eriksen then we’d have absolutely make the team much stronger overall.

I don’t think it’s ever good in a team sport to over rely on 1-2 players.

Ideally we should’ve built a fantastic team around Kane so that the whole team is brilliant including Kane, especially after the CL final, build on that momentum and team, instead we made some very poor signings and decisions, the squad became a lot worse and a mess and we ended up becoming the Harry Kane & Son team and then last season just the Harry Kane team.

We are now out of European football entirely and need a cash cow in addition to our transfer budget because we have a LOT of positions which need improving or upgrading ideally with young talented players for a new exciting chapter and project.

 

[McFlash]

People saying they don’t care about the money will have a different view next season when we sign a FW for £40m instead of £70-80m and Kanes holding a Man U shirt.

I'll worry about that if it happens but for now, I'm only concerned about next season and the possibility of him staying.

One season at a time.

 

[worcestersauce]

What 80m player is going to come to Tottenham?

Or is that a 50m player, but we're paying 80m because the selling club knows that we have a bag full of Kane money?

Which may be why we're not saying he can go and we'll sell him, maybe we're trying to get players in on a non inflated budget. I can't read it but it seems reminiscent of the Bale situation.

 

[McFlash]

Now imagine we bought nobody...

What, so if we don't sell him now, we won't have any money to replace him the season after?
Of course we'd buy somebody and we make enough money for there to be plenty to hand.

 

[Reece_Spurs]

With all Levys faults, i'm really happy how he's dealt with the Kane situation as a whole, Man City 2 years ago and now this. Staying firm on pay "X" amount, most, if not all upfront or do one.

His negotiating tactics are detrimental for us alot of the times but I feel he's handled Kane well, like most fans would aswell. If around £90m upfront cash offer comes in, all upfront with no silly add ons then it has to be seriously considered.

I'm in two minds, my brain says take the £90m (if its offered) My heart says keep him for another season, hope we win something to convince him to sign a new contract.

I just cannot see how Bayern is enough of a pull for him to give up potentially not breaking the all time prem record. If we were talking about Man Utd or Man City, it would be more understandable, but a few Bundesliga titles and a decent push at Champions League? Hmm i'm not sure.

 

[McFlash]

we give Ange a serious budget to work with to build a brand new team

We should be doing this anyway, without selling our prized asset.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

What, so if we don't sell him now, we won't have any money to replace him the season after?
Of course we'd buy somebody and we make enough money for there to be plenty to hand.

Well, lets say our budget is £80M.

We would have to do all of our business for that - replacing Kane, and getting a long-term replacement in for Son, in addition to any other spots that need refreshing/upgrading

Or we could do that same business, but have £160M to spend.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I’m sorry but if we brought in Kyogo and Jota with the Kane money that would be horrific.

I’d like to think we could stretch the money further than just those 2 but it’s about the bigger picture mate, he has a year left on his deal and we will have a reasonable whilst not huge transfer budget so something has to give.

Also Kyogo and Jota are both very very good players and the team would be way stronger in terms of the sum of its parts overall.

Celtic outplayed Madrid in the CL for about 60 mins before running out of steam, this is with Joe Hart and Carter-Vickers at the back, but their midfield and front like were causing absolute havoc, this issue was that their whole team overall wasn’t good enough to compete but those 2 players as well as Reo Hatate could all easily play PL and CL level in a high quality functioning team, put Richy as a pressing forward like he does so well for Brazil and Son in a more attacking set-up with Maddison and Kulu pulling the strings and those guys rotating with Kyogo and Jota and maybe Gil or Perisic we’d be really good in time.

I think it’s about the bigger picture and longer term now, which is why Ange has been signed on a 4 year deal.

 

[HobbitSpur]

If he decided to stay and sign a new contract, would he be eligible for a signing on fee or are those reserved for if he signs for a new club altogether?

FTR I I’m not suggesting this is what would happen

 

[lobob8]

I’d really prefer that we sold him and if it’s to a non PL team then especially so.

Get £80m+ for him, move him and Lloris on.

Use the Kane money + other sales and our overall transfer budget money to bring in Maddison, put Richy or Sonny up top as a pressing forward, buy Kyogo and a top class versatile wide AM someone like Jota from Celtic or Eze/Ollise.

Upgrade the defence with Tabsoba and Van Der Ven and make Lenglet permanent.

Rebuild phase 1 complete:
Vicario/Forster

Porro/Royal/Spence
Romero/Van Der Ven
Tapsoba/Lenglet
Udogie/Reguillon/Davies or Sess

Bentancur/Skipp
Bissouma/Sarr

Eze/Jota
Maddison/Kulu
Son/Perisic

Richy/Kyogo

To me that team is a much better overall team than one we would have if we kept Kane and had a far smaller budget, it has creativity and goals from all areas. Sure it might take a bit of time to click with new faces and younger players but that’s the part of a rebuild, 1 step back to go 2 forwards.

Bayern up their offer to a suitable amount, we let a very good club servant go to a non PL rival to win a few Bundesliga’s and have a small chance in the CL and we give Ange a serious budget to work with to build a brand new team.

If we replaced Kane with the likes of Kyogo and Jota from Celtic there would be riots.

 

[McFlash]

Well, lets say our budget is £80M.

We would have to do all of our business for that - replacing Kane, and getting a long-term replacement in for Son, in addition to any other spots that need refreshing/upgrading

Or we could do that same business, but have £160M to spend.

But what if our budget is not 80m?
If Forest could afford to spend something like 150m last season, there's no reason we couldn't spend more if we needed to.
Arsenal have been spunking cash like crazy, even without CL footie for years and with a shit stadium that doesn't generate half of what ours does.

Granted, there's a Levy shaped elephant in the room but we're not so skint that we need to sell Kane if we don't want to.

I agree with you on most things mate but I think this is one thing that we're not going to agree on.

 

[KingNick]

If he decided to stay and sign a new contract, would he be eligible for a signing on fee or are those reserved for if he signs for a new club altogether?

FTR I I’m not suggesting this is what would happen

He’d be expecting way in excess of £15m I’d guess

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

But what if our budget is not 80m?

Make the budget whatever you want - then add £80M to it.

Which do you prefer?

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

If we replaced Kane with the likes of Kyogo and Jota from Celtic there would be riots.

Then those fans haven’t seen those players play or understand the concept of a rebuild but I think we’d need to stretch the money to a 3rd signing on top of those also.

It’s about the full picture of the whole re-build and what that extra money could do for us, not just looking it it like for like in isolation.

What if in that same window as bringing in Kyogo ans Jota (both very very good players btw and anyone ‘rioting’ clearly hasn’t seen them play very often), but also bringing in sometjing
Vicario
Van Der Ven
Tapspba
Maddison
Eze

+ Kyogo & Jota.

To me that would be a phenomenal effort at a rebuild. Add to that certain current or players returning who Ange will get more out of and a more attacking set-up and we’d look like a completely different team.

 

[septicsac]

With all Levys faults, i'm really happy how he's dealt with the Kane situation as a whole, Man City 2 years ago and now this. Staying firm on pay "X" amount, most, if not all upfront or do one.

His negotiating tactics are detrimental for us alot of the times but I feel he's handled Kane well, like most fans would aswell. If around £90m upfront cash offer comes in, all upfront with no silly add ons then it has to be seriously considered.

I'm in two minds, my brain says take the £90m (if its offered) My heart says keep him for another season, hope we win something to convince him to sign a new contract.

I just cannot see how Bayern is enough of a pull for him to give up potentially not breaking the all time prem record. If we were talking about Man Utd or Man City, it would be more understandable, but a few Bundesliga titles and a decent push at Champions League? Hmm i'm not sure.

I feel the complete opposite about Levy's handling of Kane, he has had the top English striker for a decade in his prime and neither we nor Harry have any silverware to show for it, it's inexcusable, the equivalence of buying a F1 car and asking your granny to drive it.

 

[olliec]

We have to think about life after Kane at some point. Maybe now is the time?