Harry Kane

[Doctor Dinkey]

Might be off base here but to me, the money’s kind of irrelevant - losing one of the best players in the world that we couldn’t replace would almost certainly mean a worse season - so less prize money, less tv money, less fan interaction. Besides, I can’t believe the summer of 2013 didn’t convince our fans that selling your best player will

Would definitely not sell this summer but would consider selling in Jan depending how things are going. If we've transitioned into a more cohesive attacking team we could sell him in Jan like we did Eriksen. He could already agree to join someone then anyway but it really depends how our season is going. We'll have to judge whether losing him would kill our season though. I guess you have to consider the cups and whether he would want to try and win a domestic one too. If Bayern are still in the Champions League then he might consider the jump and a run at that instead though.

No one's going to spend big money on Kane in January. His contract is as good as up.

 

[septicsac]

In theory if you get near 100Mfrom Harry to go abroad, first option on a return buy then it could be a runner, but I for one have no faith in Levy and Co investing the money back into the squad wisely.

On the other hand the thoughts of him going to likes of Utd on a free next year is stomach churning.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

But what if our budget is not 80m?
If Forest could afford to spend something like 150m last season, there's no reason we couldn't spend more if we needed to.
Arsenal have been spunking cash like crazy, even without CL footie for years and with a shit stadium that doesn't generate half of what ours does.

Granted, there's a Levy shaped elephant in the room but we're not so skint that we need to sell Kane if we don't want to.

I agree with you on most things mate but I think this is one thing that we're not going to agree on.

Did someone say in theory because of FFP we could spend like £300mil this summer?

If so then yea ideally we go out and sign a new : GK, 2x CB, CM, AM, WF and keep Kane for one more year but I just can’t see us having the kind of money to sign all of those players without selling Kane and also if Kane really wants out then tbh he probably deserves to be let go and it would be better all around for everyone for a completely fresh start.

So many factors involved so it’s not a simple it would be better if we kept or sold him it all depends on a lot of factors some of which most of us don’t know about.

 

[McFlash]

Make the budget whatever you want - then add £80M to it.

Which do you prefer?

Another season with Kane and the possibility, no matter how slim, that he may just sign a new deal.
It's not my money, so it's an easy call for me.
Kane's goals for one last season, firing us back to the cl places and then it's not 80m, more in the region of 20m.

He's a generational talent and he'll be impossible to replace, no matter how much we get for him.
I'm taking that gamble that big Ange can convince him to stay.

 

[SandroClegane]

I feel the complete opposite about Levy's handling of Kane, he has had the top English striker for a decade in his prime and neither we nor Harry have any silverware to show for it, it's inexcusable, the equivalence of buying a F1 car and asking your granny to drive it.

Spurs have played in FA Cup Semi-Finals, two Carabao Cup Finals, the Champions League Final, and ran a close title race a few times with Kane in the team.

It's not inexcusable. We got there and didn't finish. It's not like we haven't gotten there at all.

Just because Red Bull wins all the F1 races doesn't mean the rest of the drivers are "your granny".

 

[Scot-Spur]

I’d like to think we could stretch the money further than just those 2 but it’s about the bigger picture mate, he has a year left on his deal and we will have a reasonable whilst not huge transfer budget so something has to give.

Also Kyogo and Jota are both very very good players and the team would be way stronger in terms of the sum of its parts overall.

Celtic outplayed Madrid in the CL for about 60 mins before running out of steam, this is with Joe Hart and Carter-Vickers at the back, but their midfield and front like were causing absolute havoc, this issue was that their whole team overall wasn’t good enough to compete but those 2 players as well as Reo Hatate could all easily play PL and CL level in a high quality functioning team, put Richy as a pressing forward like he does so well for Brazil and Son in a more attacking set-up with Maddison and Kulu pulling the strings and those guys rotating with Kyogo and Jota and maybe Gil or Perisic we’d be really good in time.

I think it’s about the bigger picture and longer term now, which is why Ange has been signed on a 4 year deal.

I understand what you are saying but I respectfully disagree regarding those players being of the required quality.

They are huge risks, Kyogo especially, he works hard but gets bucket loads of chances in that Celtic squad.

Jota is quality on his day, but a little inconsistent imo.

Playing a team of the park is all well and good but they missed numerous chances and I’m pretty sure Kyogo was one of the culprits.

They could potentially cut it but I’d be expecting players that are a tad more tried and tested than the aforementioned.

 

[septicsac]

Spurs have played in FA Cup Semi-Finals, two Carabao Cup Finals, the Champions League Final, and ran a close title race a few times with Kane in the team.

It's not inexcusable. We got there and didn't finish. It's not like we haven't gotten there at all.

Just because Red Bull wins all the F1 races doesn't mean the rest of the drivers are "your granny".

And the trophy cabinet is still empty, but if you think Levy should be congratulated or lauded then so be it. Anyway wrong thread for this so I'm done here.

 

[olliec]

Might be off base here but to me, the money’s kind of irrelevant - losing one of the best players in the world that we couldn’t replace would almost certainly mean a worse season - so less prize money, less tv money, less fan interaction. Besides, I can’t believe the summer of 2013 didn’t convince our fans that selling your best player will always make your team worse.

If he was in his mid to late 20s With a few years on his contract then yes we should do everything in our power to keep him. However he’s turning 30, so his peak years will start to steadily decline, he’s not won a single trophy with us, he will walk away for free next summer when we could of used that money to reinforce positions in our squad that badly needs it. I think maybe it’s time for the fairy tale of Kane winning a trophy with us to end. Oil fuel states like city and now Newcastle are going to be extremely hard to stop, and I can’t see Kane winning a trophy with us anytime soon.

 

[McFlash]

Did someone say in theory because of FFP we could spend like £300mil this summer?

If so then yea ideally we go out and sign a new : GK, 2x CB, CM, AM, WF and keep Kane for one more year but I just can’t see us having the kind of money to sign all of those players without selling Kane and also if Kane really wants out then tbh he probably deserves to be let go and it would be better all around for everyone for a completely fresh start.

So many factors involved so it’s not a simple it would be better if we kept or sold him it all depends on a lot of factors some of which most of us don’t know about.

Yeah, we're well sorted on the ffp stakes, we could literally spend half a billion and be ok...not that we would of course.

I guess I want a full rebuild but I want it built around Kane, not because we've sold him.
He deserves to win something here and the board should be doing everything they can now to make that happen.

They've wasted most of his career so it's really now time to shit or get off the pot.
Keep him and prove what he's worth to us.

Maybe that's why I'm so firmly on the 'keep him for another season' side of the fence?
I just desperately want the board to finally do what's best for both Kane and us - sort the fucking club out and not just spend crazy money, but spend it wisely and challenge.

 

[$hoguN]

Can I just be really clear that there is no good, better or best option in regards to moving Kane on. When he goes we will have lost our best player and talisman.

He is an academy product and cost us nothing. We don’t lose by him leaving on a free. We do lose when no matter how much money we get we can’t replace just what he brings. I wish you lot would all stop being so defeatist. Next season we have no European football to contend with. The objective is simple, make the best of a fully domestic season. When others have been confronted with that they have invested and gone on to have success (see Conte’s PL winning season). Let’s just focus on seeing what we can do. Let Kane make the decisions about his future as and when, but let’s not make them for him when we can’t replace what we lose

 

[jolsnogross]

As a club, we've screwed ourselves on Kane's situation. People should accept that a top tier player like him has no business carrying on with us after the shitshows of the last 4 seasons. We blew it by not having any strategic coherence and he still excelled amidst the nonsense. It would reflect poorly on him to sign on again for a club so unserious about competing at the very top level.

The conundrum for us then is whether we help Ange bed in for a season with a top class goal scorer, or get the most money we can get since Kane is not signing on again. I don't know what the best answer is there. But I'd let Ange answer it if I was Levy, because theres no way Levy will set his own ego aside while making this consequential decision.

 

[olliec]

Yeah, we're well sorted on the ffp stakes, we could literally spend half a billion and be ok...not that we would of course.

I guess I want a full rebuild but I want it built around Kane, not because we've sold him.
He deserves to win something here and the board should be doing everything they can now to make that happen.

They've wasted most of his career so it's really now time to shit or get off the pot.
Keep him and prove what he's worth to us.

Maybe that's why I'm so firmly on the 'keep him for another season' side of the fence?
I just desperately want the board to finally do what's best for both Kane and us - sort the fucking club out and not just spend crazy money, but spend it wisely and challenge.

I think if he wants to go he will go and I think levy will cash in as he will start thinking about life after Kane.

 

[wadewill]

If they slap 80-90m on the table we would be absolute fools to turn that down and see him go to a domestic rival for free next year.

Can’t believe it’s even being debated.

 

[cjsimba]

We have to think about life after Kane at some point. Maybe now is the time?

We genuinely might not have to for a while. If he does sign a new contract, Kane is the sort of player who could go on until his late 30’s - like Ronaldo or Totti.

If we’re challenging over the next few years we might have him for another 6 or 7 years yet.

 

[lobob8]

Then those fans haven’t seen those players play or understand the concept of a rebuild but I think we’d need to stretch the money to a 3rd signing on top of those also.

It’s about the full picture of the whole re-build and what that extra money could do for us, not just looking it it like for like in isolation.

What if in that same window as bringing in Kyogo ans Jota (both very very good players btw and anyone ‘rioting’ clearly hasn’t seen them play very often), but also bringing in sometjing
Vicario
Van Der Ven
Tapspba
Maddison
Eze

+ Kyogo & Jota.

To me that would be a phenomenal effort at a rebuild. Add to that certain current or players returning who Ange will get more out of and a more attacking set-up and we’d look like a completely different team.

Do you really think they're good enough to make up for Kane's almost guaranteed 40+ goals and assists? If they hadn't been bought by Ange would you think differently?

 

[McFlash]

I think if he wants to go he will go and I think levy will cash in as he will start thinking about life after Kane.

I think Kane would rather stay than go but it all depends on Levy and how much he wants to prove that there's a future worth having here.

 

[Mr Pink]

70 million euros and throw in Mane.

 

[Scot-Spur]

70 million euros and throw in Mane.

Musiala…..

 

[HildoSpur]

If they slap 80-90m on the table we would be absolute fools to turn that down and see him go to a domestic rival for free next year.

Can’t believe it’s even being debated.

I agree as much as it pains me, either that or try to get him to sign a new contract but with a 100 million release clause.

 

[olliec]

We genuinely might not have to for a while. If he does sign a new contract, Kane is the sort of player who could go on until his late 30’s - like Ronaldo or Totti.

If we’re challenging over the next few years we might have him for another 6 or 7 years yet.

But the biggest hurdle would be him signing a new contract and honestly time is running out. It’s make or break this summer.