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Wsussexspur

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He has been our best manager in my lifetime, but he's also had our best squad by comparison to the rest of the league. Maybe the squad was as good as it was, however, because of the strides certain players made under HHS guidance (Kaboul, Modric, Bale, Ekotto, Walker). Part of me thinks that the time was right for him to go and that the poor form and his ridiculous mouth justify this decision, and part of me is shit scared that we won't be able to upgrade so, regardless of contract issues, this decision will prove misguided.

Then I come back to my mantra: In Levy I Trust.

100% agree with what you said. In my 22 years of supporting Spurs Harry is best manager we had and have some amazing memories of his reign as our manager. Personally I don't think he deservered to go and am extreamely worried about who Levy has planned to replace him with! I normally trust Levy and bang on to my friends about him being best chairman in premier league. However this is first time I have to question that! Really anti Martinez think he will be a complete disaster if we appoint him as manager!
 

antti19

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All the best to Harry, and his staff? Great memories from their time.
In Levy I trust :)
 

Spursking

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We have to trust Levy. I like Levy as well, because he does not usually have a mainstream opinion. Hopefully we can continue to bring in exciting players to Spurs. If we get that, we will do well with any manager in charge.
 

parklane1

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I think now is the right time to try to implement a longer-term strategy. This is something Redknapp was not buying into. If Woy loses his job or walks after the Euros, then what?

No. Levy made the right decision for me.

Good post, we need long term planning not short term fixes which is what would have happened if Redknapp stayed.
 

WhiteHart4Ever

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I'll await my judgement to see who's appointed, and I guess also our transfer policy - even more importantly perhaps than who is brought in is who (doesn't) leave(s).

However, my gut feeling is that his was a bad decision, that Harry has indeed been the best we've had for some 20 years and that whoever is next will have a tough job doing as good a job as he has. And I really bloody hope it's not bloody Martinez.
 

guiltyparty

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I'll await my judgement to see who's appointed, and I guess also our transfer policy - even more importantly perhaps than who is brought in is who (doesn't) leave(s).

However, my gut feeling is that his was a bad decision, that Harry has indeed been the best we've had for some 20 years and that whoever is next will have a tough job doing as good a job as he has. And I really bloody hope it's not bloody Martinez.

I'm with this. Despite the inevitability, I'm quite stunned

If the funds are in place for the new manager, and that's why Levy was scrimping on Harry, and it's a compelling, long-term candidate, I think this could be an understandable move

But if the money isn't there, I'm not convinced we can do much better than Redknapp right now
 

SNAFU_Clarke

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personally i think this is a huge mistake. levy has allowed his ego to get in the way of what is best for the club. his record of appointing managers is hit and miss and he's due a clanger in this regard.
 

SNAFU_Clarke

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i hope these 'long term planning' merchants aren't going to be banging on about sacking moyes if we're 8th in the table at christmas.
 

tototoner

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i hope these 'long term planning' merchants aren't going to be banging on about sacking moyes if we're 8th in the table at christmas.

Agree

I think as fans we have to be resigned that next season will be a complete transition, top 8 is the most I expect us to achieve

anyone who thinks we'll now hire Mourinho and win the league needs to wake up
 

dynamoSpurs

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He did good. Now we need someone with a more technical and tactical mind to take us to that next level. I wouldn't lose any sleep over harrys departure... He lacked certain qualities needed to go the whole way and truly bring glory to spurs
 

AngerManagement

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AM, I know you're a smart fella and you know your football, but I don't think you're giving Moyes enough credit.

You compare his success to that of Big Sam and Curbs. Fair enough, same sort of set-up. But for how long did both of those sustain it for? Nowhere near as long as Moyes, and playing nowhere near as good football. And neither actually got the league finishes Moyes got. He even brought them into the top 4 remember. Did Charlton or Bolton even get Europe? Bolton maybe once in the UEFA cup?

Not to mention how good a record Moyes has in the Cups too. They always seem to be there or thereabouts.

I understand the point you're making, but I totally disagree Redknapp's done a better job than Moyes. What exactly has Redknapp done that's so great? We were already the 5th best side in the league before he took over and were regularly finishing there at the time. I don't see how now we're suddenly so much better, despite us having a much stronger side. If anything I'd be in the Harry underachieved camp. We should have done so much more and achieved some much more last season. I thought he was a huge reason why we completely bollocksed it last term. What is it you think he has done that merits more praise than Moyes who has lets face it produced miracles every singly year for over a decade non-stop?

With the budget they have, Everton should really be fighting relegation every year and yo-yo between Premiership and Championship. But look at them. I think he's the third best manager in the league by a distance, but I guess not everybody appreciates what he does.

But seriously, what is it Harry's done that is so amazing, because quite honestly, I don't see it myself. He hasn't achieved nowhere near what Moyes has for their respective clubs with their respective budgets and goals. I can't see how anybody can possibly think otherwise either.

Na, I do respect and rate Moyes. I actually think he has done a fantastic job at Everton for a sustained period of time.

He was even mooted as a potential replacement for Sir Alex, although I don't believe for a second that if Sir Alex quit tomorrow Utd would be considering Moyes so frankly I don't believe that story.

I am simply saying I don't think Moyes can be seen as a definite upgrade on Harry, I don't think I'm not giving Moyes enough credit just raising doubts and concerns (if anything perhaps you are not giving Harry the credit his work and success with us deserves)

I think Moyes has done well, but then I think people some what over rate his work at Everton (especially when you say he's worked miracles year in year out) I mean let's face it Everton are a big established club and while his budget has been some what shoe string he has had money to spend.

Everton have never ever been relegated and to be fair the likes of Big Sam and Curbs kept their respective clubs who both were far smaller and weaker in than Everton in the PL for years and were probably just as successful as Moyes relatively speaking and neither we able to transfer their skill set to the bigger clubs they went on to manager after their work at one club over a period of time over achieving afforded them a crack at a bigger club.

I think comparing Moyes' job at Everton favourably over Redknapp's work with us is harsh on Harry because the two jobs are somewhat apples and oranges with different pressures and different levels of expectations. Harry may have had more to spend and better players to work with, but then with all due respect he also took Spurs further and certainly produced far better football.

I think there is a huge risk with Moyes, he's never had to manage a club with CL expectations. He's never had to work for a manager that expects success, never been at a club where a top table finish isn't considered success and he's never had to manage a club who's fans expect all this to be achieved whilst playing sexy football.

I see huge potential for him to go the way Big Sam went at Newcastle, out of his comfort zone, greater expectations, greater pressure, greater media spotlight....a spotlight that changes from you being the boy done good fighting giants with a sling shot to the man they can't wait to see fail so they can write their stories about how sacking Harry was the stupidist thing the club ever did.

I'm not dismissing the work Moyes has done at Everton, I'm not even saying he can't or won't be a success with us.... Ironically Harry himself sets the precedented to suggest he could be a success as so many fans, myself included, wrote Harry off as a short term small time manager only capable of staving off relegation and incapable of taking us to the next level.

Harry proved me and many of us wrong and in doing so proves the potential for Moyes to be a success too, if Moyes is capable of getting the standard of player we have at our disposal to overachieve then yes we would be in for a great time with him in charge.

That being said, they point I have been making is more along the "the grass is not always greener" lines than it is the "Moyes is not good enough for us" lines.

I think there is a lot to be said for stability in football and I am not sure that Moyes with all the uncertainity and risks he comes with represent much more than a sideways step and I am not convinced it will prove to have been worth while sacking Harry to bring him in.

I will of course back him 100% if he does get the job, as I did Harry when I had similar doubts about a man who had never managed a club with our expectations and all the pressure that comes with that.

I said before though, Harry needs to be backed or sacked so I am glad this has happened rather than facing a year of uncertainty. Better to just make a fresh start now and give the new man time to mould the squad in his own image before the season starts.
 

alamo

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Sad to see Harry go personally. Have thoroughly enjoyed the ride the last few years and some of the football has been an absolute joy to watch.

Still, whoever the new manager is I will back them 100%. Can't really decide who I want us to bring in, but hopefully it will be done quickly and we can get on with filling the holes in our squad.

Would almost like us to bring back Chrissy Hughton just so I can hear gibbsy yell "NOOOoooooo......" from all the way over the Pacific.
 
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