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Harry Redknapp: Spurs shambles is not all Nuno’s fault… stars’ poor attitudes have already cost Poch and Mourinho

mawspurs

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I’M as baffled as anyone about what’s gone wrong at Tottenham - but certain about the one thing they shouldn’t do to put it right. And that is to listen to all those who think Nuno Espirito Santo should carry the can for how poor they’ve been in the last three league games.

Source: Sun
 

onthetwo

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agree with Harry that its too soon to blame Nuno when the players have been underachieving for so much longer than his tenure as coach.
 

taidgh

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It's obvious more squad clearing is needed.
Start with Dele and Winks. Then Kane. Doherty probably needs to go as well. Then you've got a few tougher decisions on Ndombele and Sanchez.

Replace them with players who want to be here and will put a shift in. I'd bet we see a much better team spirit with those first three gone.
 

sebo_sek

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Start with Dele and Winks. Then Kane. Doherty probably needs to go as well. Then you've got a few tougher decisions on Ndombele and Sanchez.

Replace them with players who want to be here and will put a shift in. I'd bet we see a much better team spirit with those first three gone.
Kane's input thus far has been... Maybe he soon realises that if he doesn't start performing then the big spenders will simply look elsewhere and he'll be forced to stay with us FOR EVER (ominous echo)
 

carmeldevil

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Start with Dele and Winks. Then Kane. Doherty probably needs to go as well. Then you've got a few tougher decisions on Ndombele and Sanchez.

Replace them with players who want to be here and will put a shift in. I'd bet we see a much better team spirit with those first three gone.

I don't think Ndombele is a tough decision. Just going to be hard to move him. But he definitely needs to go if he's not buying into Tottenham 100%.
 

Neon_Knight_

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Start with Dele and Winks. Then Kane. Doherty probably needs to go as well. Then you've got a few tougher decisions on Ndombele and Sanchez.

Replace them with players who want to be here and will put a shift in. I'd bet we see a much better team spirit with those first three gone.
Ndombele and Sanchez are tougher decisions than selling Kane? ?
 

Neon_Knight_

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Kane's input thus far has been... Maybe he soon realises that if he doesn't start performing then the big spenders will simply look elsewhere and he'll be forced to stay with us FOR EVER (ominous echo)
He scored a hat-trick 5 days ago and is our top scorer so far this season.

I'm sure plenty will comment that he's only scoring against weaker opposition, but if that was so easy why has the rest of our squad scored only 4 goals combined, while Kane has scored 6 alone?

Our team performances have generally been quite poor in the league so far. It's not surprising that Kane is struggling to impact games when our midfield is overrun.

I'm not suggesting he's in top form or anything, but I do think he's being used as a bit of a scapegoat by some.
 

sebo_sek

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He scored a hat-trick 5 days ago and is our top scorer so far this season.

I'm sure plenty will comment that he's only scoring against weaker opposition, but if that was so easy why has the rest of our squad scored only 4 goals combined, while Kane has scored 6 alone?

Our team performances have generally been quite poor in the league so far. It's not surprising that Kane is struggling to impact games when our midfield is overrun.

I'm not suggesting he's in top form or anything, but I do think he's being used as a bit of a scapegoat by some.
I'm sure if Scarlett had got the service that Kane got AFTER the tripple sub he would have scored too. And the team did score 2 without Kane, who still has a whopping ZERO in the league after 7 games. So not one of the 12 points we have is down to him - and it shows by his abject behaviour on the field.

I will be harsh on him as he did everything in his power to turn fans away. And has thus far, NLD especially, shown very little to prove that he cares even one bit about this club. He was out for himself, so you reap what you sew.

Sorry, but that's where I stand.
 

Trix

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He scored a hat-trick 5 days ago and is our top scorer so far this season.

I'm sure plenty will comment that he's only scoring against weaker opposition, but if that was so easy why has the rest of our squad scored only 4 goals combined, while Kane has scored 6 alone?

Our team performances have generally been quite poor in the league so far. It's not surprising that Kane is struggling to impact games when our midfield is overrun.

I'm not suggesting he's in top form or anything, but I do think he's being used as a bit of a scapegoat by some.
Kane will start scoring again that is inevitable imo. He's just as focused in training as he's ever been. My only concern regarding Kane now is how he behaves in coming transfer windows. Does he act up again, or does he stay focused once the speculation ramps up.
 

Neon_Knight_

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I'm sure if Scarlett had got the service that Kane got AFTER the tripple sub he would have scored too. And the team did score 2 without Kane, who still has a whopping ZERO in the league after 7 games. So not one of the 12 points we have is down to him - and it shows by his abject behaviour on the field.

I will be harsh on him as he did everything in his power to turn fans away. And has thus far, NLD especially, shown very little to prove that he cares even one bit about this club. He was out for himself, so you reap what you sew.

Sorry, but that's where I stand.
What abject behaviour is that? I haven't seen anything that couldn't be found by looking back at numerous poor team performances during any of his eight seasons in the PL.
 

sebo_sek

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What abject behaviour is that? I haven't seen anything that couldn't be found by looking back at numerous poor team performances during any of his eight seasons in the PL.
I'm not talking about his eight seasons. I'm talking about this one. The lack of effort was there to see as is the disappointment that he still plays for us. I'm not gonna try to convince you. Your opinion is your opinion.

For me he is a shadow of his former self and a hattrick against league two level opposition won't change that.
 

Locotoro

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Kane's input thus far has been... Maybe he soon realises that if he doesn't start performing then the big spenders will simply look elsewhere and he'll be forced to stay with us FOR EVER (ominous echo)
I think that ship has already sailed.
This summer the likes of Haaland, Mbappe, Lewandowski all openly stating they are considering moves. Add to that the likes of Cavani, Martial, Vlahovic and Calvert Lewin all with rumours around them moving on. There will be too many high quality strikers on the market for any one to pay top dollar for Harry Kane when cheaper, younger or better players are available.
 

sebo_sek

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I think that ship has already sailed.
This summer the likes of Haaland, Mbappe, Lewandowski all openly stating they are considering moves. Add to that the likes of Cavani, Martial, Vlahovic and Calvert Lewin all with rumours around them moving on. There will be too many high quality strikers on the market for any one to pay top dollar for Harry Kane when cheaper, younger or better players are available.
Tough luck, eh...
 

Neon_Knight_

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I'm not talking about his eight seasons. I'm talking about this one. The lack of effort was there to see as is the disappointment that he still plays for us. I'm not gonna try to convince you. Your opinion is your opinion.

For me he is a shadow of his former self and a hattrick against league two level opposition won't change that.
But this one is the same as a spell within pretty much every other season he has had with us.

He has had countless performances in the past that are very similar to how he has been this season - in terms of his positioning, movement and demeanour on the field. He has also had goal droughts before. You perceiving that things are different this time is just confirmation bias.

If he hadn't pushed for a move, but was playing and behaving exactly the same at present, everyone would be criticising the lack of service he's getting rather than criticising him.
 

theShiznit

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I said the day this squad effectively downed tools to get Poch sacked that they would regret that day, as he made them look/play well above their capabilities. Now without the desire to put the work in we see they're a severely limited group of players, and Poch was right about the painful rebuild.
And now it seems the first port of call when things go wrong is not for these players to look at themselves but to shift blame.

Like Chelsea but without the trophies.
Nuno is not and never will be my choice of manager for Spurs but I would sooner get rid of any/all dissenting voices (whoever they are) before getting a new coach.
 

sebo_sek

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But this one is the same as a spell within pretty much every other season he has had with us.

He has had countless performances in the past that are very similar to how he has been this season - in terms of his positioning, movement and demeanour on the field. He has also had goal droughts before. You perceiving that things are different this time is just confirmation bias.

If he hadn't pushed for a move, but was playing and behaving exactly the same at present, everyone would be criticising the lack of service he's getting rather than criticising him.
Agree to disagree and let's leave IT at that.
 
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