Harry Redknapp

[dimiSpur]

I dont understand why we sold Taarabt for 1m when I'd rather have had him on the bench last night than fucking Palacios

 

[Coyboy]

New SC rule. Whenever a thread is entitled 'This isn't knee jerk', you can take the opposite as true. The guy I choose to move to to sit next to during games said Harry should be fired. I will be back to my normal seat Saturday.

 

[mattdefoe]

i remember when crouch sat on the bench for a long spell last season and we played out best football, with keane and defoe early on but then we stopped using it. Then we played pav and defoe and it worked well.

Thing is under jol we would win games on the backfoot time and time again, our defence was WORSE than it is now.

We should play bassong gallas has made error after error.

 

[claw_diddy]

Last night we actually looked like we had run out of ideas.

Even Harry shrugged his shoulders and smiled.

We huffed and puffed, but essentially went round in circles with Plan A.

The manager needs to take some responsibility in all of this.

Not questioning our progress under Redknapp but he is in danger of not being able to take us any further forward unless he can figure out some alternative tactics quickly.

 

[sharky127]

To be fair we should have beaten Sunderland last night.

Hudd hit the angle and Gordon pulled of a number of saves to keep his side in it. You have days like that, Sunderland came to WHL and set their stall out for a point. They sat back and defended in numbers and unfortunately a few players were a litttle bit off the pace but we still created enough chances to win the game comfortably! On another night we'd have won 2 or 3 nil, plus we had cockface as a ref which never helps!

 

[THFC6061]

Unfortunately, our recent run of rather poor Premier League results has meant that Harry's statistical record at Spurs has now slipped behind that of Bill Nicholson's.

Prior to last night's draw, Harry had the best record of any Spurs manager since we joined the Football League in 1908.

 

[DEFchenkOE]

To be fair we should have beaten Sunderland last night.

Hudd hit the angle and Gordon pulled of a number of saves to keep his side in it. You have days like that, Sunderland came to WHL and set their stall out for a point. They sat back and defended in numbers and unfortunately a few players were a litttle bit off the pace but we still created enough chances to win the game comfortably! On another night we'd have won 2 or 3 nil, plus we had cockface as a ref which never helps!

I don't actually think Gordon had that much to do, a few saves yes but it's not like his goal was getting peppered all game.

I agree with what the OP is saying, he's not saying Harry hasn't done a great job for us which he clearly has, but the fact that he never wants to take responsibility when things are not going well.

Yesterday he was more or less like, "we played fantastic/ was scandalous not to have a pen/ fans haven't had it this good here for years etc etc" I agree with Harry in that we haven't had a squad this good for years, so why have we played better football at other times? Why with such a good squad are we relying on route 1 football? Surely we're not asking too much by wanting to see a bit of pass and move? We certainly have the midfield talent for this.

I'm concerned that he says we're playing well, does this mean he will just continue going along this route? When Defoe comes back how will the team start to play? When Pav was on yesterday and there was no Crouch we just seemed to play the same way as if Crouch was on. Was no surprise when Bale-Crouch-VdV-Goal happened.

 

[EastLondonYid]

you are passionate about rubbishing someone elses views, very expressive but consistent from past experience in discussing opposing views. i give you that.

you still need to see how many goals Defoe scored last season, the wigan game aside. i repeat he is not the answer. now when he returns and should he proof me wrong i would happily concede to you on this one.

Pav i find frustrating at times and is not my favourite same as Defoe BUT both have their uses to the team. You right Keane was my favourite but i acknowledge he no longer has a use for us. i do not have a favourite striker and would sell the lot given the opportunity.

Again i disagree....and sorry fella, pot .kettle.....
you commented on my post calling me sarcastic..get your facts right.

Lets hope defoe proves you wrong, i'm sure he will seek your approval.

Funny you avoid my question on to how he played with rooney, and cant you see that potentially he and VDV will work well together.

I may be abit passionate and sometimes OTT....but i do answer all replys ..not what siuts me.

Question: How do you think defoe performed with rooney? and can't you see he would gel with vdv......

To play the system harry wants to play, with vdv behind a lone striker, your striker needs to be pacey, have great movment, and an eye for goal, that is exactly what defoe delievered when for the first time , he was paired up with a world class partner, as in rooney.

I can't wait to see JD play with VDV.....we will see.

 

[Maske2g]

You used to be watching Sinton, Vega, Saib and Armstrong etc. so you'll f**king like it.

It's what Harry wants.

I would take Chris Armstrong over any one of our strikers now in a flash. The bloke played two periods of injury free football for tottenham. A season of 20 odd goals, and a half a season with 16 goals in 16 games. Has crouch even scored 16 goals since he's been here?

 

[Maske2g]

Lets sack him!

what a load of bollocks!!

Once JD returns soon, he and vdv will be sensational...

no one was complaining about crouch last week against the european champions.
He isn't the long term future, and i get the feeling harry knows this, but what else can he do....give harry a break....once he has JD and hopefully a new striker in jan, crouch will be a last 15 min sub.....if we need him.

If you honestly think that JD, who didn't score in 21 of his 31 starts last year will be the answer, you are absolutely deluded.

I give it 3 games of him being rubbish before everyone will be on his case, because he won't be fit, the team aren't creating chances, he'll get causght offside a few times, and do little else, and EVERYONE will moan.

 

[michaelden]

I enjoyed watching us more in Jol days,

This wing to Crouch to knockdown percentage game is fucking grim.

Agreed

Funny you say that, as i watched us hoof the ball to Crouch to knock down over and over again my mind drifted to how i enjoyed us under Jol and iwondered how he would have us playing with this current squad. we have become so one dimensional at times. Pass the ball to Bale and he whips it in for Crouch. how many times did Onouha (sp) have bale in his pocket last night. Not knocking Bale here but after the seventh attempt of trying this he should have tried a different tactic.

anyhow in the main harry has us playing some eye pleasing football at times, but i think teams have figured out our game plan. pass to Bale and he whips it into the box or Hutton/lennon/Bae plays the long ball to Crouch and VDV to score. yes this method has got us goals BUT we are one dimensional in this way and it is making it harder to win games.

Snap! I think Jol would have us playing on the deck and increasing the movement of the attackers off the ball

Lets sack him!

what a load of bollocks!!

Once JD returns soon, he and vdv will be sensational...

no one was complaining about crouch last week against the european champions.
He isn't the long term future, and i get the feeling harry knows this, but what else can he do....give harry a break....once he has JD and hopefully a new striker in jan, crouch will be a last 15 min sub.....if we need him.

On what evidence do you think a shot selfish midget will link up better with VdV?

I think that Defoe MIGHT be great off VdV but I do not think he'd be good in the build up play as he isn't great at close passing/ receiving as he is too distracted by the white posts at the end of the pitch.

There is also the fact that we will then be removing the goal threat from high crosses and relying on whipped crosses. :think: this might not be a bad thing but time will tell

 

[kernowspur]

Harry has been here for two years it is time for him to stop going back to before he arrived. Yes he has done wonders at the club, but I am getting tired of how it is always bad luck or the Ref's fault when we do not win. Goalkeepers have wonder games against us, well their job is to make saves!
We have a very good squad, although not as good as some on here believe, that needs strengthening in January as Harry has said. But too many teams are finding ways to nullify our style of play and it is Harry's job, along with the coaches, to find a way to beat these teams, at present they are not doing it.

 

[DEFchenkOE]

Kernowspur while I agree we need strengthening our squad is still better than most other teams in the epl barring maybe 3 or 4. Obviously this doesn't give us a divine right to win every game but I've seen 2 promoted teams in WBA and Blackpool play better football than us this season and for me that's not acceptable. With our current squad we should be playing better football even if we don't strengthen. Harry must take some blame fot his but he doesn't seem too bothered as he says we're playing fantastic.

 

[JJetset]

I wonder why spurs fans are well known as the most fickle in the league?

 

[dimiSpur]

On what evidence do you think a shot selfish midget will link up better with VdV?

I think that Defoe MIGHT be great off VdV but I do not think he'd be good in the build up play as he isn't great at close passing/ receiving as he is too distracted by the white posts at the end of the pitch.

There is also the fact that we will then be removing the goal threat from high crosses and relying on whipped crosses. :think: this might not be a bad thing but time will tell

Yes forwards obsessed with socring is my pet hate too.... :duh:

 

[kernowspur]

Kernowspur while I agree we need strengthening our squad is still better than most other teams in the epl barring maybe 3 or 4. Obviously this doesn't give us a divine right to win every game but I've seen 2 promoted teams in WBA and Blackpool play better football than us this season and for me that's not acceptable. With our current squad we should be playing better football even if we don't strengthen. Harry must take some blame fot his but he doesn't seem too bothered as he says we're playing fantastic.

I don't disagree, Harry seems to think playing fantastic football is an end in itself, but you have to win games aswell while playing good football.

 

[sloth]

I don't like Harry as a public persona. He's everything people have pointed out in this thread, but he's still a fucking good manager (albeit with some obvious faults), we'd be totally insane to get rid of him now or even in the next couple of years.

Every team will have its troughs, but just like the manager isn't responsible for all the good things (Harry take note!), nor is he responsible for all the bad. Randomness has such a massive part to play and so the true test is not that you manage to avoid rough patches, but that you stick together when you're suffering one. In that sense (however ham-fisted he was), Harry was right to criticise the booing yesterday.

 

[Spurs_Q8]

yes it was disappointing result for us and fans, but it's disgrace it bow your team for it's kind of form, whatever in particular competition or at home etc..

the team performed so well last season despite injuries, finished higher than expected, and this season .. and even thought we aren't doing well in league, but patience needed for some kind of reasons :

1) First year in CL and we are foing well there.
2) key players missing, like King, Dawson, Lennon, Defoe etc..
3) we've nice group of players, we must keep them happy and love them because they are good people too, not just because they are good and a tool for us. If we want them to feel for us and not leave, we must be good with them at first place and excuse them once we don't get results ..

in fact, i think this year, we are playing far better football, we need a bit of luck ..

- our performace this season vs Man City .. is far better than last season (H) once we beat them 3-0, Haart did very well and we have two penalty claims.

- our performance vs Everton, far better than when we beat them 2-1 last season, where they dominated 2nd half and Donovan missed golden chance.

- our performance vs Sunderland, far better than when we beat them 2-0 last year, for who can remember .. Gordon did very well too here and already we deserved a penalty.

- our performance at Fulham this season, far better than our performance there last season where Gomes produced some key saves kept the game 0-0.

we didn't play like last season vs Villa ( where they were too defensive under O'Neil ) & Wigan ( where we won amazing 9-1 and we got what we deserve vs this them year ) .. but considering to the fact we don't play any eroupean trophy last year and we are playing in CL now ( and touch group unlike Arsenal etc.. ) .. then we must accept the fact we need to be patient with our players ..

i'm sure if we get the points which we really deserve, we could be 4+5 more points, better place and we could challenge for title easily .. BUT with first year in CL, keeping top four place is piority with decent CL run must be priority and fair ENOUGH .. it would help us a lot financialy and better reputation to get top players for higher things next season or two ..

so Redknapp is every right about what he said, you can't boing your team so quickly for such form anyway ..

 

[Marty]

I don't disagree, Harry seems to think playing fantastic football is an end in itself, but you have to win games aswell while playing good football.

See my sig.

I love Harry, he's done a t'riffic job with us, but he has to be more open to accepting criticism when it's warranted. Alright, for 65 minutes we were good yesterday, but the last 25 were awful and he should admit that he should've tried to make some changes after the goal.

 

[EastLondonYid]

Agreed



Snap! I think Jol would have us playing on the deck and increasing the movement of the attackers off the ball



On what evidence do you think a shot selfish midget will link up better with VdV?

I think that Defoe MIGHT be great off VdV but I do not think he'd be good in the build up play as he isn't great at close passing/ receiving as he is too distracted by the white posts at the end of the pitch.

There is also the fact that we will then be removing the goal threat from high crosses and relying on whipped crosses. :think: this might not be a bad thing but time will tell

What evidence??? i thought that was clear when i pointed out his performance with rooney, its probably the only time he has played that role with a world class partner....and i think VDV is world class like rooney.
What more evidence do you want?...no one can be 100% untill they play toghether, but you asked for evidence not proof which i can't provide.

As for calling him a shot selfish midget...thats a bit strange coming from a spurs fan...