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fishhhandaricecake

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Nov 15, 2018
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Let's not forget the enic era has been part of the premier league becoming ridiculously lucrative.

They have chosen to bulk up the infrastructure as opposed to going for it on the pitch it's not like they have put their money in

On the pitch it's been frustrating. A couple of real high moments let down by their reluctance to go that extra mile when it comes to the playing side.
Yep bang on.

Nelson and Saha in January when Redknapp needed players for a title push when he had us in 3rd.

Poch needed more investment and squad depth.

Sacking managers so close to cup semi and finals and then surprised when we go on to lose those games with a new guy who’s been in charge about 2 weeks.
 

hellava_tough

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Didn't bother watching it today. I haven't missed many NLDs over the last 20 years.

Just very bored with football tbh.

And as for Spurs; it's got to the point where they've let us down so often, I'm beyond angry and just disinterested in them.
 

hellava_tough

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Also, I think the boredom has got to the point where we don't even have any new talking points...or moaning points.

It's pretty much been the same for 2 years now.

All the same problems, all the same issues. The transfer window comes and goes with all the same optimism and tempered reality when it closes again.

Levy being Levy, etc, etc.

I think the Joshua fight is about the most interesting thing to happen at the club in a while.

Very boring.
 

JCRD

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Aug 10, 2018
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Im so disconneced. Some may say we are fans we should be supporting through thick and thin but im sorry this is a two way street. They really need to give us somethign to shout about. I cant even be fucked going to games, is that bad of me? couldnt care less...
 

trevo

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Oct 23, 2007
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I have become more disconnected from the team/ENIC, than at any time in my 50+ years of actively supporting the club. Admittedly, I've been in France for the whole of the start of the season and the Kane/ transfer market/ manager traumas, but still. Previously when I travelled, or lived outside the UK for long periods I'd always be checking the scores, team news. Anything Spurs related I sought out and consumed. But since the Champions League final it's been different and I've become fearful that any light, at the end of any bleak tunnel, will inevitably run me over. I was happy to have the Holy Ghost installed as manager and even happier that Maureen left. But the missing ingredient is the repetitive pro business, anti football stance of ENIC. I will soon be back in North London. But until somethingchanges, I feel that my engagement will remain muted. And it's not a situation I like.
 

Teddy Klinsmann

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Aug 5, 2008
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Yeah totally bored by the club now. Defeats don’t hurt me anymore. Obviously players/owners don’t give a shit. Too much other more important stuff in life anyway. Spurs will always let you down, so better to enjoy the things in life that don’t hurt you every other week.
 

Typical Spurs

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It's hard at the minute. I really dislike a lot of our players. I dread watching us. I have no faith in Nuno whatsoever. I have no faith in Levy, Paratici, Hitchin or any of them lot. In fact I'm so angry at the way we've been allowed to regress. I've not enjoyed watching us play for about 3 years. I'm as disconnected as I've ever been in my life.

Yet, despite the state of the club, and as much as I was against doing it, I've got my 9 year old lad a junior membership and I'm taking him next Sunday vs Villa. If it was just me I'd be dreading it and possibly wouldn't go. But he is so excited. Excited about seeing the stadium, going in the club shop, the journey to the stadium.

It's a day we'll both always remember. So despite how utterly down I am about the club, for next Sunday at least, I'll go and have a great day out with my boy, because he's such a great lad and deserves it.
 

13VanDerBale13

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We have to mentally prepare ourselves knowing that this club & board will ALWAYS let us down.

Nothing will / has ever changed & honestly it’s just not worth it anymore.
 

EastLondonYid

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Never ever felt so pissed off about my club, and we have had worse teams than this dress by the way.

Totally emploded and fallen off rails since the Cl final.

Levy should fuck off , sick of the bald little ****
 

riggi

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Jun 24, 2008
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More gutted than anything. I first went on the Season Ticket waiting list when I was 16. It was a great stadium to go too and even if the football was crap the day out was good. I finally got my ST when we were at Wembley and now I just don’t want it anymore.

Mutton dressed as lamb.
 

homer hotspur

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I didn’t even watch second half and I’ve never done that for NLD, I feel kinda sad that I cared that little about it. I’m not even that pissed off that we lost because I expected it.

Seriously considering selling my season ticket for Sunday, just don’t think I can find the motivation to spend my time and money travelling there to see us serve up another shower of shite under a coach clearly out of his depth.
I somehow doubt you will get any takers.....
 

rossdapep

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I think my disconnection squarely comes from ENIC and Levy. Whilst we had progressed I was willing to cut them some slack at times because I always felt that they were trying to set us up to compete.

But this summer truly did it for me.

The statement about our style of football and the objectives for a new manager that wasn't backed up have certainly shown Levy up. But what really set this apart for me was the lack of talk about going for titles.

The message was along the lines of "We'd all like to win if we can but we aren't prepared to push us in that direction"

I'm not here to be a glory hunter but I do expect a club of our side to at least give us something to work towards and get excited about.

We can't even enjoy the football anymore because Levy pulled that from under our noses after putting it on the table.

If Levy came out and said something along the lines of "Right, now it's the time to push on and be succesful" and then apponted a coach to fit that, I think we'd all be on board with patience and hope. Or even if he'd apponted Ten Hag and said we are building for the next phase, again I could throw energy into that.

We got a half hearted effort with Jose but that was ultimately too late in the day.

But this summer we had words and practically none of the actions showed us ambition or even a clear direction.

Everything you see on the pitch currently has been created because of these decisions at the top.
 

SpursForever71

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nope, never felt so disconnected. we are now in the situation where our owners see our stadium as being more lucrative to them than the team. Whatever they earn from hosting events will never go in to making the team more competitive.
Enic built the stadium to host events, not to evolve the football team.
 

DCSPUR64

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Whoever Owns us, plays for us etc, I always will love Tottenham Hotspur football club. I have my Spus tattoo for goodness sake. :)
 

rossdapep

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I think another contributing factor to the disconnect is some of us spent so long watching the team slowly rise to get into a position to compete at the very top CL etc - and we had many setbacks in getting there too - only to just very rapidly fade away from those heights.

And we know what it's like being a team with very little to look forward to. We all remember the 90s and early noughties where we spent an eternity hoping to be good again.

We aren't Leicester or Crystal Palace where they hope for better but understand that for them it's not really something in their control as they don't have the prestige or history or the pull.

We thought we were back to the levels we experienced many years ago, only to have it pulled away in an instance because of the leadership and their lack of ambition/desire to kick on all the while many of us could see it coming a mile off
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Tottenham_God

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For myself, as an Australian supporter, I am very disconnected right now. Not having any geographic allegiance to London, none of my family support spurs and having never even attended a Tottenham game (sigh) makes it very easy to just shrug my shoulders. I used to wake up at all sorts of crazy hours of the morning to watch live games and was genuinely excited. I chose spurs because i didn't want to be a front runner like all of my football "soccer" friends who followed United, Liverpool, Chelsea etc.

And the reason I chose spurs was because I felt like they had heart, an identity and they were genuinely entertaining. This was the period when we had Carrick, Berbatov, Modric come into the club and we had entertaining players like Defoe, Keane and Lennon making it enjoyable to watch. Nowadays, I don't look forward to seeing any of our players play and I feel like that identity has been hijacked by some sort of fraudulent posturing as if we are one of the big boys. We aren't. We were nearly there, we just didn't get over the line. So lets stop pretending we are still on the cusp of glory.

I used to love turning up to training, in my country Australian town, wearing my blue thomson shirt with the old crest, puffing my chest out. Half the lads didn't even know who Tottenham were and I would gleefully boast about Berbatov and King as if I had some sort of actual relationship with these people. Not even Kane inspires that type of feeling in me anymore.
 

rossdapep

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For myself, as an Australian supporter, I am very disconnected right now. Not having any geographic allegiance to London, none of my family support spurs and having never even attended a Tottenham game (sigh) makes it very easy to just shrug my shoulders. I used to wake up at all sorts of crazy hours of the morning to watch live games and was genuinely excited. I chose spurs because i didn't want to be a front runner like all of my football "soccer" friends who followed United, Liverpool, Chelsea etc.

And the reason I chose spurs was because I felt like they had heart, an identity and they were genuinely entertaining. This was the period when we had Carrick, Berbatov, Modric come into the club and we had entertaining players like Defoe, Keane and Lennon making it enjoyable to watch. Nowadays, I don't look forward to seeing any of our players play and I feel like that identity has been hijacked by some sort of fraudulent posturing as if we are one of the big boys. We aren't. We were nearly there, we just didn't get over the line. So lets stop pretending we are still on the cusp of glory.

I used to love turning up to training, in my country Australian town, wearing my blue thomson shirt with the old crest, puffing my chest out. Half the lads didn't even know who Tottenham were and I would gleefully boast about Berbatov and King as if I had some sort of actual relationship with these people. Not even Kane inspires that type of feeling in me anymore.
I know where you are coming from mate as I lived in Australia for a couple of years and it really is an effort to stay up late to watch games. It takes a lot of energy. I admire you for that.

I used to go to the Spurs supporters Sydney bar (Triple Ace Bar) and watch in there but I unfortunately was living there during the AVB/Sherwood season and after a few months I stopped bothering because I'd regularly waste a Sunday in bed recovering when I could have been at the beach with my pals.

It's not worth missing out on things.

I found that there was a lot of gooners in Sydney. I worked in an office and there was at least 10 of them wandering about. It was funny though cause it was the season they signed Ozil, started very well and were top for a while. Then Liverpool hammered them and it quickly turned to shit. They were so arrogant and thought the title was heading there.

Taking my mind off Spurs did help me enjoy life more and Australia is one hell of a country to so that in.
 

Tottenham_God

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I know where you are coming from mate as I lived in Australia for a couple of years and it really is an effort to stay up late to watch games. It takes a lot of energy. I admire you for that.

I used to go to the Spurs supporters Sydney bar (Triple Ace Bar) and watch in there but I unfortunately was living there during the AVB/Sherwood season and after a few months I stopped bothering because I'd regularly waste a Sunday in bed recovering when I could have been at the beach with my pals.

It's not worth missing out on things.

I found that there was a lot of gooners in Sydney. I worked in an office and there was at least 10 of them wandering about. It was funny though cause it was the season they signed Ozil, started very well and were top for a while. Then Liverpool hammered them and it quickly turned to shit. They were so arrogant and thought the title was heading there.

Taking my mind off Spurs did help me enjoy life more and Australia is one hell of a country to so that in.
It's tough! Fortunately nowadays we have Optus Sport and they offer "mini matches" which is meant to be all the exciting parts... But unfortunately there's not many of them from our end at the moment
 

g_harry

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I think another contributing factor to the disconnect is some of us spent so long watching the team slowly rise to get into a position to compete at the very top CL etc - and we had many setbacks in getting there too - only to just very rapidly fade away from those heights.

And we know what it's like being a team with very little to look forward to. We all remember the 90s and early noughties where we spent an eternity hoping to be good again.

We aren't Leicester or Crystal Palace where they hope for better but understand that for them it's not really something in their control as they don't have the prestige or history or the pull.

We thought we were back to the levels we experienced many years ago, only to have it pulled away in an instance because of the leadership and their lack of ambition/desire to kick on all the while many of us could see it coming a mile off
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Hit nail on the head. The length of time it took this club to again be seen as a proper competitive club for titles and European titles started thanks to Jol, Redknapp then took to another level with Poch. Its like we have just thrown that all away and fallen back 20years in development.
 
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