Everlasting Seconds
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Sorry, that's occupied by the "youngest average age – bright future"-Trophy and the "if it wasn't for EL"-award.
Highest Profit ever from an English Football Club
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spursfan77
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Two things:
1. Surely they would want to rake in all that match day income
And 2. Theyll have to more importantly, find a buyer. Currently they want a billion quid and are unwilling to bend on that figure (see my posts in the Cain Hoy thread) and who's going pay that?!?!
Hoddle&Waddle
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Good business man, hasnt got a clue about football unfortunately.
TheChosenOne
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- Dec 13, 2005
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Betcha he doesn't have to pay for match tickets though.
Or away travel.
And I bet he makes personal calls on his business phone.
FITZ
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Thought levy only gave out phonecards?
Spurger King
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So for some it seems the game is no longer about glory, but about finishing 6th or thereabouts and being happy with it because we don't invest as much as other teams.
I get the impression that some fans reach the end of the season and say "yay...another year of finishing below Arsenal and Chelsea but it's OK because we should never dream of being as big as those grown up clubs."
Would people be happy if we had the 10th highest wages and finished 10th or thereabouts every season? We're not quite underachieving, but I don't see what we're 'achieving' as much to be happy about.
It's a big part of why I feel so apathetic about the club these days. Levy's doing as good a job as he realistically can - I'm not denying that - but I'm left daydreaming about the perfect scenario of a new owner coming in that runs the club well but invests enough to allow us to compete regularly. Until that (unlikely) scenario it feels as if we're being told to be happy to be making up the numbers.
Being a well run business that might, just maybe, have a good season if it punches above its weight and another couple of teams under-perform, just doesn't get me excited.
I get the impression that some fans reach the end of the season and say "yay...another year of finishing below Arsenal and Chelsea but it's OK because we should never dream of being as big as those grown up clubs."
Would people be happy if we had the 10th highest wages and finished 10th or thereabouts every season? We're not quite underachieving, but I don't see what we're 'achieving' as much to be happy about.
It's a big part of why I feel so apathetic about the club these days. Levy's doing as good a job as he realistically can - I'm not denying that - but I'm left daydreaming about the perfect scenario of a new owner coming in that runs the club well but invests enough to allow us to compete regularly. Until that (unlikely) scenario it feels as if we're being told to be happy to be making up the numbers.
Being a well run business that might, just maybe, have a good season if it punches above its weight and another couple of teams under-perform, just doesn't get me excited.
225
Living in hope, existing in disappointment
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Judged by the same standards, no one on this forum does either. Unfortunately.
As ever in football, when it's going right you're a genius, when it's not going right you're a clueless so and so.
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Not so sure.
As I'm sure we all know, Danny B said "The game is about glory. It’s about doing things in style, with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Chelsea have certainly bored points out of opponents all season. That's why they're clear out at the top.
As an aside, what's the difference between where we are now and where City and Arsenal are? 3 Wins. Or Man Utd, 2 wins and a draw. There's 4 games left to play and just 3 wins separate us from 2nd place. Not that we can get 2nd, but we're not that far behind.
Villa, Palace, Newcastle, Stoke, West Brom. They make up half of our losses in the league and are all teams we could easily have beaten. We've not played fantastically well all season, yet that's how close we are.
The best part is, we've done that without parking the bus or holding up the ball for the last 20. We've beaten on the door until the last minute of added time. Glass half full and all, but that's a pretty decent start to a 5 year plan.
eddiev14
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100% this.
Bus-Conductor
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There is a name for this type of business philosophy. It's called going down the bookies.
Francis Gibbs
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Nope it's good sound business, re invest your profits in your core business to sustain future growth ..... nothing like a punt
NEVILLEB
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Looking at the figures it doesn't seem that pure Gate Receipts are as important as everyone has been saying for the last 10 years.
Commercial Activities look just as crucial.
Man Utd - £189M
Man City - £166M
Chelsea - £114M
Liverpool - £104M
Spurs - £56M
Is this stadium really going to significantly improve our chances to catch the bigger teams? Will it bring in better commercial activities?
Commercial Activities look just as crucial.
Man Utd - £189M
Man City - £166M
Chelsea - £114M
Liverpool - £104M
Spurs - £56M
Is this stadium really going to significantly improve our chances to catch the bigger teams? Will it bring in better commercial activities?
Francis Gibbs
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If we fill it it will obviously help but the only thing that brings high value commercial opportunities is success on the field ... you ignore properly investing in it at your peril
Bus-Conductor
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I think you should go and watch Bristol Rovers. Sit in their shitty stadium, watch the shitty standard of player, playing the shitty standard of football, the shitty refereeing and breath in the pathos of it all.
We'd all love (or most of us) FFP to be cancelled and Uncle Joe to have a fucking epiphany and decide to invest all his granddaughter's offshore inheritance trust fund in making us the English Real Madrid, but in the mean time, being grown ups we just try to live on the real world. In the real world we are limited by real economic factors, the type that impose limitations on all businesses.
We understand that our chairman has a vested interest in the business doing well on the pitch and seems to try and facilitate that whilst not leaving us open to catastrophic risk. Because if he did and it failed you'd be left dreaming of the days when you were whining about being 6th best in the country. Some of us can remember being in the second division, and the many, many years of being 12th best, or 16th best.None of that stops any of us dreaming of being better than 6th best, but It does afford us a little perspective.
We dream of being 3,4 maybe 5 places better. There are about 86 teams dreaming of being us.
mpickard2087
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In real terms no way did we make an £80m profit, just on the balance sheet it looks good because of what we made on Bale. In reality we spend what we bring in. It's not as if we have hundreds of millions sitting in the bank account that just isn't being spent.
Spurger King
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- Jul 22, 2008
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I've been to see Rovers and City. I'm under no illusions that there are plenty of clubs that would want to swap places with us, but I think you're displaying some ignorance of how passion and desire work. Bristol City fans are very happy right now because they've won League One, and the Johnstone's paint trophy, but next season the ones I've spoken to want them to consolidate their place in the Championship, then push on. Trust me, whenever they've looked like they're treading water or going backwards their fans have complained about it. There was a massive drop in enthusiasm after they lost their play-off final to Hull then slipped backwards another step every season before getting relegated. They want progress. That's a completely normal attitude and expectation. If Bristol City were finishing 5th or 6th in the Prem every season, the majority of their fans would ask why they aren't pushing for 4th. It's a very simplistic view to assume that fans would accept their team plateauing simply because they've had it worse in the past, or that other teams have had it worse. By that logic, you'd have no problems with us slipping down to League Two because there are plenty of clubs who would dream to be in the league.
I've already explained that the idea of a free-spending owner (or one that can get us regularly competing for trophies) is a pipe-dream. Perhaps you just skipped over that in your rush to make childish insults (ironically about "being grown ups"). I also said that Levy is doing as well as he can. If you think reaching a ceiling on our potential is exciting (which was the whole point of my post) then I have to question your appreciation of the game. You think Arsenal fans are happy having their team qualify for the CL every season without winning that competition, or indeed the league for years? Dream on.
What a miserable, inferior little team we'd be if every Spurs supporter was content to watch us being nothing more than the 'best of the rest' every season. You can say my expectations are unrealistic. I'll just say your expectations aren't high enough.
tototoner
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in other words, know your place Tottenham
tototoner
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and we are building one just as there is a massive outcry over ticket prices
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