Hillsborough - it could have been us!!

[spursphil]

It will always be a touchy subject to opinionate on, we all have a views on liverpool supporters, we've all heard stories on how they behave, some of us may have even encountered them over the years. I know I have and it wasn't pleasant.

Bear in mind though this was almost 30 years ago, when hooliganism was at it's fiercest. it was years before CCTV, Police spotters etc. Liverpool fans were hated across europe as their reputation proceeded them, They would happily rob anything they could to fund their trip abroad. So when you are expecting 1000's of liverpool supporters to turn up, I'm sorry but you're inevitably expecting trouble of the highest degree.

There is evidence that proves that Pubs, Clubs, supermarkets and off licences in the area of Hillsborough were drunk (and robbed) dry well before KO, there is also evidence to show that fans were in these pubs right up until 2.45-2.55. Some 5 minutes before scheduled KO.

There are probably many many stories from fans that will never ever get heard, some of which may be true, some of which may be embellished to protect them or others, some of them could be complete bullshit. It's a tragedy we'll probably never get to hear the 100% truth about, but it will take an awful lot to convince me that the liverpool fans played no part in it unfolding.

I don't know if you have been to Hillsborough or if you were there in 81? Nothing personal because if you were there in 81 you would not be writing this rubbish.
Back in the 80's all clubs had their hooligans, including spurs,
It's clear to me you have never watched a documentary on Hillsborough because you wrongly state "it was years before CCTV" when in fact ALL the documentaries include CCTV footage, with many interviews with police spotters included in them.
The Taylor report published 25 years ago, lays no blame whatsoever with Liverpool fans and that drink was not a factor in the events that day. In fact 300 empty beer cans were found around the leppings lane end that day, not a lot for over 24,000 Liverpool fans I would say.
There is evidence that Spurs fans don't leave the Bricklayers until 2.45 on a match day at Spurs! It don't make them drunken louts does it? Having a few beers before during or after a social event is part of British culture, we have a beer at a wedding a christening even a funeral, in fact nearly every event we attend.

Please watch this documentary and you can be better informed with what really happened.

 

[TheChosenOne]

I have watched an hour of this documentary so far but bed is calling...

However .. This is riveting ... Not seen it before - and very sad.

 

[TheChosenOne]

We used to leave a pub in Dalston at 2.45 and belt it through the back streets, usually got there by just after kick off.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

I don't know if you have been to Hillsborough or if you were there in 81? Nothing personal because if you were there in 81 you would not be writing this rubbish.
Back in the 80's all clubs had their hooligans, including spurs,
It's clear to me you have never watched a documentary on Hillsborough because you wrongly state "it was years before CCTV" when in fact ALL the documentaries include CCTV footage, with many interviews with police spotters included in them.
The Taylor report published 25 years ago, lays no blame whatsoever with Liverpool fans and that drink was not a factor in the events that day. In fact 300 empty beer cans were found around the leppings lane end that day, not a lot for over 24,000 Liverpool fans I would say.
There is evidence that Spurs fans don't leave the Bricklayers until 2.45 on a match day at Spurs! It don't make them drunken louts does it? Having a few beers before during or after a social event is part of British culture, we have a beer at a wedding a christening even a funeral, in fact nearly every event we attend.

Please watch this documentary and you can be better informed with what really happened.

There but for the grace of God go I (and a few experienced coppers)