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Hudd has got the hump!

danielneeds

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Whilst I don't disagree with you and others, saying that he can't play in a 2 man midfield, and he is by-passed to easily, ie Burnley.
I totally agree, he is best suited to a 3 man midfield, which would be ideal.

In my opinion though, I think that Huddlestone could work with Palacios in a 2 man midfield, as I think Palacios's work rate and the fact he covers so much ground, could make up for Huddlestones lack of.
I would like to at least give it a try to rule either way if it works or not.

Yeah I'm sure it could work, but we seem to have a such a beautiful balance at the moment why would you want to put more work on Wilson's shoulders and risk it? Him and Jenas are giving the back four such great protection and giving a platform for Luka, Aaron and Robbie to playmake from.

I think 2 workers, 3 skill players, and a centre forward is the way most teams in Europe are going. If Hudd could add some Xabi Alonso-like steel to his game then maybe....
 

walworthyid

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Hudd is not good enough in numerous departments and the fact that we now have Palacios, Modric and Keane would suggest to me that he will not make it at spurs while hr is manager.

If he is to make it he will need to improve his short passing game in addition to his aggression and mobility.
 

Kendall

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Get rid. He has a poor attitude for a player of his age. You wouldn't get whinging like this at bigger clubs.

He's an immense talent, but simply hasn't got all the required attributes to be a top level cm
 

Wsussexspur

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Think he will be off in the summer. He is a good player when he is on his game but sadly that isn't very often. I find him extremely frustrating as he will be out of the side for abit then gets a run in the team and his form picks up and we see the best of him then the media all hype him up and gets excited calling him the new Hoddle etc and all of the sudden he goes of the boil and finds himself out of the team. This has happened for the last 3 or so seasons. As someone said earlier he should go to Italy he would be so good over there with the time they get on the ball. Also looks like he is starting to put weight on again.
 

chadders

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Noooooo I love the Hudd, hope he stays and echoing someone elses thoughts wouldnt mind seeing him alongside Palacios.
 

Kendall

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He is simply nowhere near as good as Jenas, if you put your bias aside. Its been proven over and over again.
 

$hoguN

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terrible attitude really to be saying this to the media... If he was deserving of a place in the side he would be in there... simple fact is Palacios and Jenas have done some great work in there and we look better for having them there... So if he wants to have a future with us he needs to improve his game or leave... If he does leave he won't be going to a club near our size tho...
 

NickHSpurs

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The classy midfielder was a fixture in the Spurs side under Juande Ramos, but his opportunities have been limited since Harry Redknapp took the reins.

Thats bullshit, it's the other way round.
 

AllSeeingEye

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Good passer and seems like a nice lad, but if he can't keep up with the workrate a little he will always be behind Jenas, Palacios and Zokora simply because he is not fast enough to shut down people and help buy time for his team mates.

I would like to see him play a few more games to see where his head is at, but he has had plenty of time to develop under a succession of managers and doesn't seem to cut the mustard anymore.

In the prem you have to lose people like Hud who moan and don't put enough effort in on the pitch. Hopefully the moaning part is just a media poop though. Can't imagine why Harry would allow players to speak out like that - unless he's using some spin to get a sale on.
 

tRiKS

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yeah still a bit bemused why people are refering to his comments as moaning? Seems sensible answers to questions about his current role at the club. He attributes no blame to anyone he just says he wants to play first team football. I hope all the ressies feel exaclty the same.
 

lishiyo

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It's not moaning, but I guess it seems a bit different from the likes of Bale's and Taarabt's comments which seem more pro-active - work hard in training, play better and fight for a spot, no mention of possible departure, etc - whereas Hudd sounds like he is open to a move if he can't start here. It's what most players think obviously since everyone wants to play first team football and nobody wants to play reserve games but it doesn't come out as well; he should've just said something about working harder in the reserve matches and in training rather than "I didn't come here to play reserve games" or whatever.
 

finnoathletic

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Think I'd quite like The Hudd to go on loan for the full season to some team like Hull, Pompey, Blackburn, Wolves (if they come up) a team where he'd play every week and see how he gets on. Then we'd probably get a better idea if he can cut it. Does anone know how longs left on his contract?
 

Adam

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In his first few games, Palacios was covering the whole midfield-Jenas was as much of a bystander as Huddlestone was against Burnley in all of those games until Chelsea where Jenas put in a good shift. Based on that, i think Hudd should at least be tried in a 4-4-2 as he is infinitely better on the ball than Jenas is, of that there can be little doubt. If Palacios can cover the whole midfield, as he did against Hull, Arsenal and Boro to a slightly lesser degree then im sure him and Hudd would be a success.

Selling him would be utterly ridiculous
 

Kendall

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In his first few games, Palacios was covering the whole midfield-Jenas was as much of a bystander as Huddlestone was against Burnley in all of those games until Chelsea where Jenas put in a good shift. Based on that, i think Hudd should at least be tried in a 4-4-2 as he is infinitely better on the ball than Jenas is, of that there can be little doubt. If Palacios can cover the whole midfield, as he did against Hull, Arsenal and Boro to a slightly lesser degree then im sure him and Hudd would be a success.

Selling him would be utterly ridiculous

This is absolute bollocks and if you look at the stats against Arsenal you will see that this biased viewpoint was quashed, along with the 'jenas only passes sidways' bollocks.

Woodgate singled Jenas out for praise against Villa, after he and Palacios had an EQUALLY sloppy first half, Jenas turned in an awesome performance second half. BOTH of them bossed the Boro midfield, BOTH of them contributed to the Hull win.

I'm really getting sick of this favouritism, they're both working extremely well. In fact, Jenas is giving away less stupid freekicks than everyone's new favourite Palacios.
 

Fervency

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Poor old Tom ,http://www.setanta.com//uk/Articles/Football/2009/03/25/Prem-Huddlestone-on-future-SSN/gnid-45828/ .I did not come here to play in the reserves. Lovely passer of the ball but would need to perfect the art of tackling.:shrug:

You don't need to be able to tackle to be a holding midfielder. Look at Carrick, his anticipation helped him intercept the ball rather than tackle, it's pretty easy too, all he needs to do it expect it and be ready when the player is about to pass. So few players do it though.

It also relies on other players putting pressure on their players. I think BAE has done it a few times recently.

He'll never be quick or a tackler, if he developed this part of his game he'd be quality. I don't see it happening though. Shame
 

danielneeds

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You don't need to be able to tackle to be a holding midfielder. Look at Carrick, his anticipation helped him intercept the ball rather than tackle, it's pretty easy too, all he needs to do it expect it and be ready when the player is about to pass. So few players do it though.

It also relies on other players putting pressure on their players. I think BAE has done it a few times recently.

He'll never be quick or a tackler, if he developed this part of his game he'd be quality. I don't see it happening though. Shame

Its not about him being quick, its the fact that he has the turning circle of an oil tanker, thus any player with decent mobility can bypass him with a simple change of direction.
 

Fervency

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Its not about him being quick, its the fact that he has the turning circle of an oil tanker, thus any player with decent mobility can bypass him with a simple change of direction.


Yeah that's why he shouldn't try to put a foot in when a player has the ball, he should just hold them up.

I'm talking about before a player has the ball, if he stood a few feet away so the player with the ball thinks he has an open pass, then if hudd is expecting the pass he can move before the player has passed and cut it out. Its a quickness of mind.

I can't find an example of Carrick but here's one of Alen Iverson, its basketball but the same thing If you pause it right, you see he reacts before the guy has even passed. You can only do that if you're anticipating it, most players just stand and watch them pass, same is true in football.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5MvTCDsvAM

And it does translate to football
 

danielneeds

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Yeah that's why he shouldn't try to put a foot in when a player has the ball, he should just hold them up.

I'm talking about before a player has the ball, if he stood a few feet away so the player with the ball thinks he has an open pass, then if hudd is expecting the pass he can move before the player has passed and cut it out. Its a quickness of mind.

I can't find an example of Carrick but here's one of Alen Iverson, its basketball but the same thing If you pause it right, you see he reacts before the guy has even passed. You can only do that if you're anticipating it, most players just stand and watch them pass, same is true in football.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5MvTCDsvAM

And it does translate to football

I know exactly what you mean, Hudd should try and model his game on Carrick, he is the perfect role model. The point I was making is that even though Carrick is not quick, he has mobility, and can jockey players. Its all very well having good positioning and awareness, but if your body can't respond quick enough you will still get by-passed
 
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