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I think we should swap Soldado for Snejder

knilly

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I think that's a ridiculous idea. People take time to settle. If he comes good in the last third of the season when it counts then everyone benefits
 

teok

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He has no where near the resale value. We should be trying every thing under the sun to get him scoring. Playing alongside Ade has potential so lets go with that.
 

jezz

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Personally i think we should hold on to him.
How many other players have come here and taken time to settle?
Next season if he looks like he is not settling then let him go.
 

Shea

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I think we should swap Soldado for someone equal (talking money) .By his price is not 30 m right now , offcourse any club in Primera would take him right now.
As you say his value currently wouldn't represent what we paid most likely

How much would you be prepared to write off as a loss from our initial outlay? more importantly how much do you think Levy would be prepared to write off

I can't see it happening any time soon

I also think its too soon to be writing Soldado off - he's new to the league and players take time to settle more often than not. He also has to start again due to the managerial change (although that will probably prove to be to his benefit as AVB's management left him very isolated and is largely responsible for his lack of confidence in my opinion)

I think as with Lamela and as with Sherwood himself we as fans need to give some benefit of doubt and reserve judgement until a reasonable amount of time has past for us to be able make a valid assessment of them.

Lamela and Soldado may not show their best form until next season - that doesn't mean we should be writing them off and cutting our losses already in my opinion
 

Spursster

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I thought we paid 30 m for an experienced old striker without any compromises and i am afraid he has no self confidence , these 100 % goal situations he missed are really questionable. Offcourse i love all Spurs players , but the situation is critical , do you remember Rebrov and Raziak ? Then see Klinsmann , he came , saved us , pure legend!
 

Spursster

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As you say his value currently wouldn't represent what we paid most likely

How much would you be prepared to write off as a loss from our initial outlay? more importantly how much do you think Levy would be prepared to write off

I can't see it happening any time soon

I also think its too soon to be writing Soldado off - he's new to the league and players take time to settle more often than not. He also has to start again due to the managerial change (although that will probably prove to be to his benefit as AVB's management left him very isolated and is largely responsible for his lack of confidence in my opinion)

I think as with Lamela and as with Sherwood himself we as fans need to give some benefit of doubt and reserve judgement until a reasonable amount of time has past for us to be able make a valid assessment of them.

Lamela and Soldado may not show their best form until next season - that doesn't mean we should be writing them off and cutting our losses already in my opinion
I think Levy spent the Bale's money , so is overall zero.
 

Mr-T

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Depends who you're thinking of swapping him for.

Bearing in mind it looks like we could be a bit thin on the ground for strikers soon.
 

absolute bobbins

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Feb 12, 2013
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No, we paid round about £25.7 million for an experienced striker who is currently settling into the league, the situation isn't critical and the best way to look at it is at the moment is Olivier Giroud. Sniffed pants last season and having settled in is having a very good season this
 

Spursster

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Jan 15, 2014
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Depends who you're thinking of swapping him for.

Bearing in mind it looks like we could be a bit thin on the ground for strikers soon.
It's strange but i found him (Soldado) better as AM than Striker . Maybe his role should be to provide/deliver passes to Adebayor , playing behind him.
 

beats1

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No, we paid round about £25.7 million for an experienced striker who is currently settling into the league, the situation isn't critical and the best way to look at it is at the moment is Olivier Giroud. Sniffed pants last season and having settled in is having a very good season this
However unlike Giroud, Soldado has done everything right except for getting his shooting boots on. His record says that he won't go on too long without them!
 

Spursster

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Jan 15, 2014
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No, we paid round about £25.7 million for an experienced striker who is currently settling into the league, the situation isn't critical and the best way to look at it is at the moment is Olivier Giroud. Sniffed pants last season and having settled in is having a very good season this
What about Ozil ? The same situation mate ?
 

Mr-T

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It's strange but i found him (Soldado) better as AM than Striker . Maybe his role should be to provide/deliver passes to Adebayor , playing behind him.
He's done quite a bit of this already with Ade and looked good at times. I'm still not convinced we'd be able to swap him for anyone who'd be more effective, not this window anyway.
 

Spursster

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He's done quite a bit of this already with Ade and looked good at times. I'm still not convinced we'd be able to swap him for anyone who'd be more effective, not this window anyway.
Maybe you are right mate , so far so good !
 

Shea

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I thought we paid 30 m for an experienced old striker without any compromises and i am afraid he has no self confidence , these 100 % goal situations he missed are really questionable. Offcourse i love all Spurs players , but the situation is critical , do you remember Rebrov and Raziak ? Then see Klinsmann , he came , saved us , pure legend!
*did we not pay £26m rather than 30?*

Not every striker hits the ground running though - it doesn't mean they will never going on to be a success

Just like early success does not guarantee continuous success (see Jelavic, Cisse and currently Benteke)

Saurez, Drogba, RVP and Giroud all started slowly and went on to be successful

Circumstances can dictate - AVB in my opinion managed Soldado poorly and his formation and tactics isolated him and made him get off to a slow start, He also deprived him of Europa cup mins which could have helped him settle by scoring the number of goals Defoe racked up (not to mention speeded up the development of understandings with his team mates)

Klinsmann is a good example actually - he came in and tore the league a new one but he was also aided by the fact we were a highly creative attacking force and he scored goals on both his debut and home debut and was never short of chances due to the attacking talent and speed of our attacks (plus we were weak at the back so teams weren't afraid to attack us and leave more space at the back for us to exploit)

Fast forward to his second stint at the club and he was actually rather disappointing by in large - playing in a team that struggled for goals was low on confidence and lack creativity. It was only really the Wimbledon game where he showed what he could do that time and like you say he saved us and further cemented his legacy as a club legend in that match but he was by no means as free scoring as he'd been during his first spell.

Soldado may well benefit from playing in Tim's Tottenham which currently scores in excess of 2 goals per game and gets a lot more bodies in the box with far quicker attacks than AVB's set up which clearly did not suit Soldado at all. Hopefully he will show what he can do very soon and it will prove money well spent.

Either way its too soon to write him off as the next Rasiak or Rebrov and as fans we should be encouraging and supporting him - this type of attitude is reflective of the half time booing we hear at the Lane every week now days
 

Shea

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Actually who exactly bought Soldado , anyone know ? Baldini ? Levy ? AVB ?
well we seem to have been linked to him since before Baldini was at the club so I suspect it was something from Levy's moneyball stats and he'd been on our radar for sometime

I tend to think AVB maybe didn't select him due to his tactics being so isolating to Soldado

Baldini probably had influence in making the deal happen but I doubt it was his suggestion solely anyway as I recall him being on our radar for a good while before Baldini came in
 
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