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tRiKS

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It's so easy to sign Rossi. I did it yesterday. I pressed the big X button in the middle of my controller, waited while the FIFA 11 screen loaded. Went to my Manager Mode in Career Mode, submitted a bid after selling half my squad, of 30 million. Offered him the wages he wanted, plus a bit more, and bingo, he was signed by the time my calendar ticked over to the next fixture. Took about 3 minutes.

It is that easy after all.

FACEPALM.

I hate the blame being specifically pointed at us not bringing someone in. Hello? I mean, could it be that along the stages of: a) agreeing a fee with a club, b) agreeing a fee with the agent and c) agreeing wages with the player that something didn't go according to the FIFA 11 plan?

First of all, you've got to find a club willing to sell. If the club isn't willing to sell - at any price - then we've got no chance. If the player doesn't want to go in the first place, then it doesn't matter if a fee can be agreed or not.

I hate the blame game at the best of times; but it just shows people are anti-Levy or anti-Redknapp when they blame them for not "getting players in", as if it were as simple as buying a loaf of bread at Sainsbury's.

Gah!

nah Stoof. chasing Rossi in such a way was as detrimantal in that case. Alsmost any player would have injected smoething to the forward line. If it was so hard to get a 30m player to sign we should have instead chased someone far more realistic despite them not seeming the glamerous one we dream of.

somewhere over last summer Rednapp lost it a bit, before the summer window he'd have done something. He'd have seen the value of a fresh face regardless of how "ugly" that face looks like.
Gudjohnson!? there was certainly an Eidur of the 2010/11 season availble out there somewhere. Keane went out on loan so we had the space adn money to have got someone fresh even on loan? WE didn't even try. Thats not something we should excuse without critique.
 

DiscoD1882

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I'm not arguing with someone that mentions computer games in replies to me nor anyone that feels they have to use Messi as any sort of leverage in a debate.
But saying Gary Neville should come out of retirement and we should buy him in reply to a valid post is so thoughtful and well thought out.
 

DiscoD1882

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nah Stoof. chasing Rossi in such a way was as detrimantal in that case. Alsmost any player would have injected smoething to the forward line. If it was so hard to get a 30m player to sign we should have instead chased someone far more realistic despite them not seeming the glamerous one we dream of.

somewhere over last summer Rednapp lost it a bit, before the summer window he'd have done something. He'd have seen the value of a fresh face regardless of how "ugly" that face looks like.
Gudjohnson!? there was certainly an Eidur of the 2010/11 season availble out there somewhere. Keane went out on loan so we had the space adn money to have got someone fresh even on loan? WE didn't even try. Thats not something we should excuse without critique.
Sorry. i am sure Stoof mentioned computer games. No argument from you needed?
 

Coyboy

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I have been trying to find the thread where you suggested we fire Ramos when Berbatov and Keane chose to leave. Still can't find it funnily enough.

Just shut the fuck up, you are disgraceful enough to have some other bloke as your sig, you have hated Redknapp since the get go and you routinely shit on him. Just leave it and do one, k?
 

Stoof

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nah Stoof. chasing Rossi in such a way was as detrimantal in that case. Alsmost any player would have injected smoething to the forward line. If it was so hard to get a 30m player to sign we should have instead chased someone far more realistic despite them not seeming the glamerous one we dream of.

somewhere over last summer Rednapp lost it a bit, before the summer window he'd have done something. He'd have seen the value of a fresh face regardless of how "ugly" that face looks like.
Gudjohnson!? there was certainly an Eidur of the 2010/11 season availble out there somewhere. Keane went out on loan so we had the space adn money to have got someone fresh even on loan? WE didn't even try. Thats not something we should excuse without critique.

It wasn't a case of anyone will do, it was a case of bettering what we had. We have good strikers; strikers that got us to the Champions League - and scored heavily in it during the first half of the season.

The way you make the post is suggesting that "anyone will do". That's not the case - we don't sign players for the sake of signing them, which is what you're advocating.
 

tRiKS

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But saying Gary Neville should come out of retirement and we should buy him in reply to a valid post is so thoughtful and well thought out.

Wanting us to sign G.Neville would be a poor post yes.

But what i did was sarcasticlly saying it in response to the tone you set by listing a player medals as a reason to sign them, that was valid.
 

wcfnw

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So because our best player wants to leave let's sack the manager who made him into a world beater? Said manager also managed to get us a respectable league position after Ramos' shambolic start and is also the same manager who guided us to 4th( without Luka for half of that season) and a respectable 5th the following year.

Yeah sounds like a great plan.

Think before posting such shite again!

Thank you
 

spurious1

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Fabregas has wanted to go to Barca for years now, but he's still at Arse. Ronaldo wanted to go to Real for 2 years before Red Nose let him go. Whatever you might think of those players, they still gave it their all during those years they were denied their "dream move". I don't see any reason that Luca wouldn't behave the same, especially considering he's much less of an egomanic than those two. I doubt he would throw a strop he we refused to sell him.

The question is whether we have the bottle that Arse and Man U have, to hold on to him, at least for 1 or 2 more years.

I'm sure if he goes Levy will get the best possible price, heaven knows that we can certainly count on him for. But I'd be very afraid that it would be the start of a mini-exodus, especially if it comes so early in the window.
 

tRiKS

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It wasn't a case of anyone will do, it was a case of bettering what we had. We have good strikers; strikers that got us to the Champions League - and scored heavily in it during the first half of the season.

The way you make the post is suggesting that "anyone will do". That's not the case - we don't sign players for the sake of signing them, which is what you're advocating.

no. signing someone that would potentially play better than the players we currenlty had. Seems a sublte but important difference. looking to replace, defoe, crouch and Pav when they are playing as well as they should is a differnt kettle of fish to the situation we found ourselves in in January.

getting them or not isn't as much of an issue to me as not thinking about trying. A bad call to only go for the most unlikely targets when what we had in the form they were in could have been improved apon from any places.

just 2 more wins, just 4 more goals over half a season could have been the difference.
 

Seth

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Agree with Dan

No clue in the transfer market, tactically one dimensional, made to look far better than he is by Commoli's signings and Ramos' gross incompetence. Get rid....
 

Dan Ashcroft

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Who has sai he wants a year out from football?

Who said he wanted to keep managing in London. I think an arrangement is already in place for whenever Redknapp goes to England, prison or the job centre - be it a year or sooner.
 

Stoof

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no. signing someone that would potentially play better than the players we currenlty had. Seems a sublte but important difference. looking to replace, defoe, crouch and Pav when they are playing as well as they should is a differnt kettle of fish to the situation we found ourselves in in January.

getting them or not isn't as much of an issue to me as not thinking about trying. A bad call to only go for the most unlikely targets when what we had in the form they were in could have been improved apon from any places.

just 2 more wins, just 4 more goals over half a season could have been the difference.

Is what every team will say. No point in what-ifs, none whatsoever.

But as ever, you're not in the possession of full facts - and if you choose to believe that we weren't trying; well I guess you weren't correctly reading even the limited noises we managed to scrape together.

All the ITK pointed to us trying to get a striker. So, there was no lack of effort. And that's what most seem to be punishing; incorrectly.
 

Dangerous_Clive

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DiscoD1882

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Wanting us to sign G.Neville would be a poor post yes.

But what i did was sarcasticlly saying it in response to the tone you set by listing a player medals as a reason to sign them, that was valid.
So listing a players previous experience\medals is not a valid reason to sign someone? hmm interesting. Just out of interest did you think that signing Gallas was a good idea? i mean he has a wealth of medals and experience around the same age as Neville?
 
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