Is it safe to post on here yet?

[cliff jones]

I've been a member of this forum for probably around 7 years and it's worse than I can ever remember.

I know it's been pointed out many times but the sense of entitlement our fans have now is chronic. Every loss is greeted with calls for the managers head, levys head, players to be sold, blah blah blah. And it's the same posters who seem to keep quiet through the good periods but then pop back up when we hit a rough patch. I really don't understand why they bother watching the team if they hate the chaiman, manager and players so much.

nope, calls for the manager to learn from his mistakes. He should be in the technical area immediately barking out what changes the opposition have made and how we need to adjust to them. Scandalous he, nor any of his right hand men, responded. Dier was not the only one at fault. Moreover, although Mason made the extra man tell for the goal, what about trying something other than the same front four who have only delivered against QPR to date? Especially when Soldado played so well at City as did Harry against the Bubbles?

 

[alamo]

I've been thinking about the age thing. I started supporting Spurs in 1990, so apart from the FA Cup win when I was 11 it has been pretty much dire.

Of course, I didn't really know any better, so it's been a case of wanting us to gradually improve. Under Harry we finally looked like stepping up to the next level, so slipping back into having an average squad with little to be optimistic about is extremely hard to take.

Trying to work out if that's the worst age-range for supporting Spurs. Prior to 1990 Spurs fans at least had our 80s teams to enjoy. More recent fans would have enjoyed the CL football and star players, so wouldn't necessarily know the horrible suffering of knowing each season is going to be pure disappointment.

All in all, it feels like living in a bedsit...winning the lottery...moving into a nice mansion...then spunking the money on dross and having to move back in with your parents. Better than the bedsit, but still pretty darn hard to take.

This pretty much sums it up for me.

I was 16 when we won the FA cup and I hadn't really been into football that much prior to that but watching Gazza majestically drag us to the final absolutely captivated me and I've been a devout fan ever since.

And yep, since then there hasn't been a huge amount to cheer about, but there have been some real highs:

- League cup win
- League cup final
- Ginola, Berba, Modric, Rafa, King, Bale
- Taxi for Maicon
- Beating AC
- etc....

And it is the current (hopefully temporary) regression back to mediocrity and the lack of inspirational figures that many are finding a bitter pill to swallow.

I'm certainly no gloom-merchant and have faith in MoPo but am sad that for a couple of years now I no longer particularly look forward to or enjoy watching us play.

 

[Jody]

I blame Chripy. I mean seriously, you can't keep fucking with the mascot like that and expect the team to do well.

That's fine, but if indeed Alamo did Fuck chirpy, he'd have to take half the blame too.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

I'm ok. Just the stadium business disappoints me. We need to get out of Tottenham. Build a stadium with a real future that can make us great again.

Wouldn't have to go to MK or such whilst we build it either

 

[parklane1]

I'm just hoping we get a good win tonight so the idiots are kept at bay for a few days. This place is becoming more and more intolerable after we lose.

There is a lot of them about.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Quite appropriate having a cock as a mascot at the moment though. I voted meh because we have been here so many times probably about 35 of the 50 odd years I have wasted my life on this club.
Health warning everyone think it will get worse before it gets better and could be another 3 or 4 years before we are in CL again, might even be longer

Liverpool worse or Leeds worse? Or Pompey worse?[/QUOTE]
Wimbledon-worse is what I heard.

 

[Coyboy]

Liverpool worse or Leeds worse? Or Pompey worse?

Wimbledon-worse is what I heard. [/QUOTE]

Ah at least we get a new club out of it. Can start again.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

I'm just hoping we get a good win tonight so the idiots are kept at bay for a few days. This place is becoming more and more intolerable after we lose.

It's not only about a loss though. What people are feeling now is not remorse after losing to a horrible side at home. It is so much more than that.

We fired a good manager, hired someone I liked, but who wasn't a good fit for the club, fired him, hired a controversial figure, fired him and took a new gamble which so far is not paying off. 2,5 years after the last manager who took us to CL, we are no better off. At all.

Then, we had big names in the squad, sold them, tried to replace them but not as fans define "replacement". The new players were all replacement as per the definition of the chairman or somebody near to him. "Players who might just one day generate a huge-ish profit". In the meantime, they just don't generate anything else. Then we have the mistakes of not signing 1 or 2 decisive players at 1 or 2 decisive moments, and the fact that we haven't had any amazing goal scorer performing one full season since Berbatov.

And then the concern about the new manager is starting to spread, but there is no safe place to air such concerns, and most are feeling a bit restricted because it doesn't really feel "right" to entertain the idea that maybe, just maybe, we hired the wrong man. Again. And if he is the right man, then every single player is the wrong one and must be replaced, which is literally impossible.

Being a Spurs-fan is never about one loss, nor about one victory either. It's about so much more. And presently, the total of that "more", looks rather hazy.

That's what the fuzz is about.

 

[yido_number1]

I can handle being mid table or mid upper table as long as the signs are there that we can play some exciting stuff and have a plan. At the moments its ground hog day of the last 3 years but without the solidity at the back or dominance in midfield. Time to move on some of the players and get in people that are motivated enough to put a shift in.

 

[dagraham]

I've been thinking about the age thing. I started supporting Spurs in 1990, so apart from the FA Cup win when I was 11 it has been pretty much dire.

Of course, I didn't really know any better, so it's been a case of wanting us to gradually improve. Under Harry we finally looked like stepping up to the next level, so slipping back into having an average squad with little to be optimistic about is extremely hard to take.

Trying to work out if that's the worst age-range for supporting Spurs. Prior to 1990 Spurs fans at least had our 80s teams to enjoy. More recent fans would have enjoyed the CL football and star players, so wouldn't necessarily know the horrible suffering of knowing each season is going to be pure disappointment.

All in all, it feels like living in a bedsit...winning the lottery...moving into a nice mansion...then spunking the money on dross and having to move back in with your parents. Better than the bedsit, but still pretty darn hard to take.

I'm a little bit before your time Spurs wise, but feel similar to you.

I voted same old, same old but I actually agree with the last two options. It's just that I've seen so many false dawns I can't be bothered to get worked up about it anymore.

I have a very vague memory of watching the 1982 cup final with my Dad, but the first Spurs team I was really emotionally invested in was the 1987 team.

As an 11 year old, the crushing dissapointment of the 87 cup final left me well prepared for life as a Spurs fan

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Then, we had big names in the squad, sold them, tried to replace them but not as fans define "replacement". The new players were all replacement as per the definition of the chairman or somebody near to him. "Players who might just one day generate a huge-ish profit". In the meantime, they just don't generate anything else. Then we have the mistakes of not signing 1 or 2 decisive players at 1 or 2 decisive moments, and the fact that we haven't had any amazing goal scorer performing one full season since Berbatov.
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I won't reply to the rest of your post because its all whiny nonsense, but, this part I take issue with.

Why do you think it is so easy to replace the "big names in the squad" By 'big names' I assume you mean players like Berbatov, Modric and Bale? The point is the combination of qualities these players possess are rare to find, that is why the clubs who bought them from us paid an absolute premium. These players are pretty much irreplaceable.

All we can do on our budget is buy players with potential to fill the gap left by these players. As it is with potential, sometimes players reach their full potential, sometimes they don't.

When we bought these 3 players, they all had potential, they were gambles that luckily paid off.

Buying players that are guaranteed to be decisive and amazing goalscorers cost money that is way out of our budget. Do you really not understand this? We can only sign players who have the potential to one day become 'decisive' or a recognised world class goalscorer. The players who have already reached that level go to the elite clubs - hence Berbatov, Modric and Bale leaving us - do see the connection here?

It is frustrating but you have to understand our position in the food chain. It is not as easy as simply buying 'amazing goalscorers' and 'decisive players' unless you are Man City, PSG, Chelsea or any other club at the pinnacle of the food chain. The rest of us can only gamble on potential.

Cry all you want but please don't be so ignorant as not to even try and understand the reality of our situation.

 

[Norwegian Spurs fan]

It is as safe as betting on a Spurs win

 

[WestBelfast Spurs]

they are all wankers, but we are here to the bitter end aren't we, you can fall out of love with the club as quickly as you fell in love with it, players better start giving a fuck though getting pissed of with the attitude from half/most of the 1st team.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

I won't reply to the rest of your post because its all whiny nonsense.
n.

But it was also a wee bit funny?