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Is it time for Daniel Levy to step down?

Is it time for a new chairman

  • I Like Daniel Levy and he should stay chairman

    Votes: 135 47.5%
  • Yes we need a new chairman with new ideas

    Votes: 111 39.1%
  • Badger

    Votes: 38 13.4%

  • Total voters
    284
  • Poll closed .

StartingPrice

Chief Sardonicus Hyperlip
Feb 13, 2004
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10,280
Definitely time for Levy to step down. It would be the noble thing to do. The guy at Blackburn did a really good job. Maybe he could buy us? Or someone who'd rename us Tottingham Leopards. That would be really cool.

Make it Tottenham Tapirs and we can deal :)
 

Sum Monsterism

Looking for an anecdote
Jun 12, 2012
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There's a balance to be found for sure, but perhaps those who constantly fawn over him and defend him even when it's clear there's warranted criticism are as much over the top as those calling for his noggin on a plate. Maybe a bit of criticism heading his way for a change could be a good thing. I guess we'll find out.

I don't know if I'm seen as a fawner or not - but I can see the positives AND why other people get annoyed with the chairman for sure...


Isn't the only real way that DL would go is if JL/Enic sold up? I'm not a businessman, I have no idea if that's right!Selling the club is surely going to be easier / more profitable when we've the greeks out for £5m, and we can't continue to miss out of the CL revenue in the meantime - so DL has to keep shooting the fish barrell until he hits a loaf of bread who can turn our players into wine. Or something.


He's not deliberately picking and then firing the wrong men guys! hahahahah.
 

SteveH

BSoDL candidate for SW London
Jul 21, 2003
8,642
9,313
Let's have a go at Levy and make ourselves feel better.

You utter tight fisted bastard! Better?

OK.

Now we have done that - lets move because it is a waste of time and energy.


PS don't be too hard on Tim
 

Ribble

Well-Known Member
Apr 13, 2011
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How about a step back, rather than a step down, now we have a DoF at the club? Wasn't there ITK about him wanting to do that anyway?
 

Darth Vega

Well-Known Member
Jul 28, 2013
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Let's see who we bring in as manager but one thing's for sure, a lot of fans seem to be questioning him now more than ever. The constant firing and hiring is getting a bit extreme and when we now pay so much money for tickets the 'I pay x amount therefore I demand x amount of success' argument comes into play as well. Nothing we can do about it though. Don't think he's looking to sell and unless a filthy rich Abramovich-esque man comes in then nothing will change.
 

JerryGarcia

Dark star crashes...
May 18, 2006
8,694
16,028
I've always been "Pro Levy" or a Levyite/Levylover :love: and for sure we've improved during his time here. I'm not calling for his head now but if we keep chopping and changing then there could well come a time when the only change left to make will be a change of ownership. I have no problem with anyone who thinks that time is now but I still believe that this squad just needs the right manager so lets wait and see what happens next.

It's not like we have much say in the running of the club anyway, Enic might not want to sell untill we've cemented a top 4 spot every season and have built the new stadium. If that's the case then we'd better just pray that one of the new managers hits the ground running and doesn't look back.
 

TrueYid

Active Member
Jul 29, 2003
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I left London 10 years ago. A day after Daniel unveiled plans for our shiny new Naming Rights Stadium. TEN FUCKING YEARS.
 

eddiev14

SC Supporter
Jan 18, 2005
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It's also worth mentioning that in the last 8 seasons we've only finished outside of the top five twice. Find me a chairman who can do better than that with a stadium of 36,000 capacity...
 

chinaman

Well-Known Member
Jul 19, 2003
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He'll really have to dig into his or Enic's pocket and offer a King's ransom to get de Boer or Hiddinck.
 

nav007_2000

Well-Known Member
Sep 28, 2006
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Look out tr the daily mail article tomorrow where AVB says that £56m purchases from the summer he didn't want. That includes Eriksen, Chadli, Vlad

Levy in my opinion needs to be pushed into a more business type role and the footballing side taken over by someone who knows what they are doing
 

theShiznit

Well-Known Member
Jul 26, 2004
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He should go back to doing what he does best.

Trying to steal the moon...

DanielLevyflyingtoMadrid_zpsf05650c3.jpg
 

SteveH

BSoDL candidate for SW London
Jul 21, 2003
8,642
9,313
Let's see who we bring in as manager but one thing's for sure, a lot of fans seem to be questioning him now more than ever. The constant firing and hiring is getting a bit extreme and when we now pay so much money for tickets the 'I pay x amount therefore I demand x amount of success' argument comes into play as well. Nothing we can do about it though. Don't think he's looking to sell and unless a filthy rich Abramovich-esque man comes in then nothing will change.

He probably would like nothing more than to just build the new stadium and let the so called football "experts" get on with all things team etc.

But unfortunately they are in the main bloody useless. AVB, Harry and Baldini and all the rest of the gang could not hack it long term.

A thankless task!

But...... we move on.
 

idontgetit

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Aug 21, 2011
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Daniel Levy has been our chairman for nearly 13 years now and in that time we have had 10 managers (including caretaker managers - Graham who he sacked, Pleat, Hoddle, Pleat, Santini, Jol, Allen, Ramos, Redknapp, AVB and now sherwood). I know that he is a tough negotiator and looks after the interests of the clubs finances, but his job is to ultimately make spurs successful on the pitch (which leads to higher revenues and better profile).

If your job was to pick a manager in a business and you chose the wrong person that many times somebody would take you aside and pass the job on to another person.

I understand that we don't have money to through around but to constantly wait until the 11th hour of every transfer window to do our business may save a few million, but if we bought them before pre-season would could have time to integrate them into the team/squad and improve our chances playing to a system the coach/manager wants.

I'm not calling for his head - I'm simply asking the question.

You are an idiot. We've gone from midtable mediocrity to fighting for Champions League spots every season and would be challenging for the title if two clubs hadn't been taken over by a bunch of oil tycoons ready to throw whatever money in the world is needed at the prem to fuck us over. We're brilliantly run and were just very unlucky with AVB. Yes some very distasteful appointments and sackings but on the balance of things we've been better than the majority
 

Sum Monsterism

Looking for an anecdote
Jun 12, 2012
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You are an idiot. We've gone from midtable mediocrity to fighting for Champions League spots every season and would be challenging for the title if two clubs hadn't been taken over by a bunch of oil tycoons ready to throw whatever money in the world is needed at the prem to fuck us over. We're brilliantly run and were just very unlucky with AVB. Yes some very distasteful appointments and sackings but on the balance of things we've been better than the majority

I don't fink you needed to open with the insult dude - he's only playing devil's advocate!
 

Yid1987

Active Member
May 28, 2012
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Anyone who's failed in his job as many times as Levy usually gets sacked. The amount of managers he's appointed and sacked is a joke especially when he's the one providing the resources - deciding what players to buy and sell.

If he can't see that his method doesn't work then he should go.

Managers are appointed to run the team and can only be fully judged if they are the ones deciding which players to buy!
 

idontgetit

Well-Known Member
Aug 21, 2011
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Everyone was getting on their knee's to suck Levy's cock during the summer. If you want to lay the blame at his feet either quote a post from the pre-season saying how you doubt levy or admit that you're judgement is worse than his
 

Rout-Ledge

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Jul 29, 2005
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Look out tr the daily mail article tomorrow where AVB says that £56m purchases from the summer he didn't want. That includes Eriksen, Chadli, Vlad

But AVB wanted Baldini, and presumably Baldini played a part in bringing those players in? I'm no fan of the DOF system we implement, but surely AVB was aware that he wasn't going to get carte blanche on transfers?
 

StartingPrice

Chief Sardonicus Hyperlip
Feb 13, 2004
32,568
10,280
There's a balance to be found for sure, but perhaps those who constantly fawn over him and defend him no matter what, even when it's clear there's warranted criticism are as much over the top as those calling for his noggin on a plaet. Maybe a bit of criticism heading his way for a change could be a good thing. I guess we'll find out.

This is true.
The problem is that anyone who defends him on any discrete issue at any time, or anyone who defends his overall record, as opposed to any particular single issue of the moment, very quickly gets labelled as a Levy fan-boy, or someone who fawns over him.

To take my own example, I agree with you, funnily enough. He employed AVB, he employed Baldini (not that the latter has been sacked), he signed off on all of the summer signings (not that we have made bad signings, IMHO) - so, of course, the buck should stop with him and he deserves criticism for it. I make exactly the same point when he sacked Ramos/Comolli, when most everyone else was spitting venom purely at Comolli (presumably because they decided before he as employed that they didn't like him...nor his Arse*al connections). And yet whenever I defend Levy's overall record, or a separate issue, I am immediately accused of being a Levy fan-boy for whom Levy can do no wrong.

For the record, I blamed Levy heavily for Jol-Gate and for hiring Comolli and Ramos and therefore, ultimately, being responsible, and likewise he bears ultimate responsibility for the latest debacle. I also doubt he would be my preferred dinner-guest. So, hardly a sycophant who will hear no criticism of glorious leader.

At the same time, though I truly doubt that there is anyone who really will accept no criticism at all of Levy, there does seem to be a certain cabal who literally obsess about everything he does as though he is destroying the club (and there are any number of thread titles to support this), and grind that axe constantly over every little issue - they don't discuss the current issue, they grind the Levy is destroying the club axe. My methodology is simple, I take the aggregate of all his decisions, good and bad, weight them up, and reach a decision as to whether his stewardship has been positive or negative. For me, the evidence is very clear: without getting us in debt, we have a far superior squad to when he took the club on*, our average finishing league position is significantly higher, as is our average points total, and the infrastructure of the club has improved, and will improve more when the new stadium is completed. Therefore, is someone wants to make the argument over a discrete issue, in this case that Levy is due some criticism over the recent AVB centred debacle, I will either agree or disagree (in this case I agree, in others I may disagree). But on the occasions that I disagree, I don't think that warrants the charge that, based on other previous discrete issues I have disagreed, I am some kind of Levy fan-boy. And if the argument is the biggie that Levy is destroying the club, I think I can maintain a history of having heavily criticised Levy on several discrete issues without actually refusing to accept criticism of him - just, on aggregate the club has improved, IMO.

* For the record, I think in many areas of life individuals, groups and organisations can go 2 steps forward 1 back, sometimes, and maybe this is one of those times for the club. I still think we have an exceptional squad when fit and used properly.
 

JerryGarcia

Dark star crashes...
May 18, 2006
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Would you trust Levy to choose his successor

I don't think he'd trust his legacy to anyone without a massive overdraft so whoever is next in line, I think they'll at least have the funds to keep us there or there abouts.
 
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