Is Pochettino's machine seizing up?

Discussion in 'Columns' started by Krafty, Oct 23, 2015.

  • by Krafty, Oct 23, 2015 at 2:58 PM
  • Krafty

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    We've had one very good result (City 4-1), and a lot of games which have been between pretty good and a bit poor. We are not receiving the odd thrashing, but neither are we handing them out. The team/squad is coming together, but in a way that is more solidifying than blossoming.

    Pochettino has been in charge for nearly 18 months, the squad is undergone a number of changes in that time, and while there are still areas to address the core of the team appears to be there. Two pre-seasons and the time in between should provide enough opportunity for the team to nail down the primary way the manager likes to set up his men, and I believe our greatest challenge at this moment should be adapting a different way of playing, and rotating the side without a distinct drop in quality.

    However, it still feels like we are missing something. It still feels like this 4-2-3-1 set up is a work in progress, as if Pochettino himself has yet to fully get his head around how he wants it to operate. There seems to be a lack of cohesion across the pitch, and very few partnerships. Save Toby and Jan, I do not see any pairs of players who have an understanding. Last season there was a couple of months where we saw Kane drift out to the left, with Eriksen going beyond him, and it resulted in a couple of goals (Kane's first against Chelsea in the 5-2 win; Eriksen's winner away at Swansea) but there is little sign of that at the moment.

    Full backs and wingers are not operating together, either offensively or defensively. The CMs and AM are not rotating or working off each other. The wing attackers/inside forwards do not work off the AM. The list goes on. Everything seems very static, and the gears of the team are locked in together and nothing can move. Perhaps Mauricio is hoping that one big effort will set the wheels free and we will be off, an unstoppable object that powers on, but we've had that injection of a player having a golden period - Kane for a lot of last season, Chadli at the beginning of last season, Eriksen midway through, while Lamela was our golden child for a spell this season.

    The team still feels like less than the some of its parts, and too susceptible to individual failings, be it defensive lapses or Kane not having his scoring boots. Players running down dead ends and into opponents is a clear sign that there is no standard attacking plan that creative players can work off. Instead they are made to make something happen as if by magic, no longer acting on instinct but having to think about something in the moment, which leads to our slow and turgid play.

    The manager's disinterest in a plan B means we cannot add momentum by giving the players a fresh thought process, and there are the beginnings of players being frustrated that they just can't play fluently on the pitch. Okay, these might not be the most 'intelligent' players but if Pochettino wants a team full of players who can solve individual situations then we will be at the mercy of well organised defences and off days.

    We are still a work in progress, of course we are, but we see the same issues reoccurring. The last time we were defensively strong, had lots of possession but ultimately very little goal threat was at the start of Andre Villas-Boas' reign, and rather than build that attacking fluidity we saw the defence fall apart and AVB was out. Pochettino has worked the transfer market better, and whatever happens it feels like we have a better foundation for any manager to work from, but Mauricio seems to be digging a hole and his only way out is to continue using the shovel.

    In so many ways the Argentine seems a very good manager - the players like him, training seems to be good, he knows how to setup the running of the club in terms of transfers, scouting and his general ethos about how football should be played is congruent with how Tottenham Hotspur as club like to play. I hope that all Mauricio needs is time - a bit of time to work on our attacking play, a bit more time to get the players completely up to speed, a bit more time to make the final adjustments to the side. However, the longer we go coming up against the same issues, making the same mistakes, and finding the same frustrations, the more I worry that we have had yet another false dawn and another set of opportunities will be missed.

    We are purring along nicely enough, but know we need to move up the gears and realise our full potential. I would really like that to happen with the current coach and players.
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Discussion in 'Columns' started by Krafty, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. TheHoddleWaddle
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  2. Jamturk
    We're moving back into the pack, the days of "building a team" are over. There is so much money swilling around in the game that clubs can build competitive teams within a couple of transfer windows. Any of our "young players" who come good will be sold before any fruition takes place.. Its all about the here and now in modern football.

    Its business as usual.
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  3. Mullers
    I think the OP's concerns are legitimate, it is a work in progress and Poch does need time. I always thought this was going to be another transitional season, however Poch has said differently he has said he wants to fight for top 4 this season, when you say things like that it raises the expectations of the supporters.


    To me it's obvious that he's under a great deal of pressure from the board to get top four. I find that ridiculous especially when they miss out on getting a striker for the past two windows. The constant hard on for top 4 when we are the sixth richest club is stunting our progress. I'm sure if there wasn't this pressure Poch would be more inclined to play more youth in premier league games instead of limited appearances in the cup games.

    The youth are the foundation of the club but I kind of fear for their future because of the quick success mentality that's around. I much prefer to give some youth experience even if it means finishing midtable of course that means no Europa but we only just decided to take it more seriously anyway. It would also mean we will get less money but we will make more money if we have some youth who make it through.
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  4. Gilzeanking
    Well he's obviously having some effect at Spurs .
    2 very unSpurs stats...

    1. We've run further than any other Prem club

    2. We have more yellow cards than any other Prem club .

    Motivating the team to greater efforts 10/10
  5. nailsy
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  6. Mullers
    To be fair the second stat isn't something to be proud about.
  7. Block D Spurs
    IMO... We need Son back in the team and a new CF.... Andros & Fazio to go in January. We also need more from AMF in quick forward passes, and.. total concentration 90 mins + Better co-ordination of AMF ST Wings.
  8. Gilzeanking
    I agree , The commentator who mentioned it though (Owen ?)
    seemed very impressed .

    However , my point stands as all this running and fouling takes a lot of effort...
  9. UbeAstard
    A plan B is needed in games where the score line is going away from the desired. EG we are playing Bournemouth who have decided to sit back and pack their half (I know they don't), 20 minutes left and you think we should just carry on the same possession stuff, going out wide then coming back inside and hope they tire?
  10. UbeAstard
    I dont see this pressure from the board at all. Where is it made 'obvious' to you?
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  11. millsey
    Lawrie Sanchez?
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  12. sak11
    Agreed. If much rather that at this stage we are drawing why Liverpool or beating man city than getting thumped by then 3-0, 5-0 as has been the case the last couple of seasons.
    Now that the defense is becoming more consistent he can start to develop the attacking play and style
  13. slartibartfast
    Oh God we've turned into Arsenal fans. The roller coaster of 'we're gonna get top 4' to 'Pochs shit sack him' depending on each game by game result has begun.
    We have one of, if not the youngest squads in the PL.
    Almost every game we are the youngest.
    We only have 1 out and out striker in the squad.
    We have a Net spend of next to fk all.
    I don't care who your manager is you aren't going to be pulling up any trees while thats the situation you're in.
    I believe the phrase is 'trying to polish a turd.' By that I mean a futile effort not we're shit.
    I think a reality check is in order.
    Pochs doing ok with what he has.
    We ARE improving and thats all we can ask for really.
    As has been said, any of these youngsters really look the part and some fucker will just take them.
    Building for the future is impossible.
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  14. zinzanzee
    One more time.......we are a work in progress. Our defence finally looks settled, it is the foundation on which everything must be built. We have a good spine, that as a whole are still young. Yes we are missing that x factor player that all great teams have. Optimistically if Kane gets his scoring going again, Son gets fit to play again and Lamela and Erikson play to their potential on a consistient basis watch out. COYS.
  15. HotspurFC1950

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  17. HotspurFC1950

    It's just Mullers bro.
  18. SteveH
    You made that up!

    With no fit strikers we are in a pickle. Berahino is not the answer IMHO. We need need Son back and another edition.
  19. Mullers
  20. Mullers
    Nope, I said obvious to me not obvious to you.
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