Is Roy Hodgson a footballing dinosaur?

[WalkerboyUK]

It's a shame that Giggs never showed the same passion and commitment Wales as Gareth has.

He hardly played any friendlies for them.

Suspect Fergie just as much to blame for that!

 

[Khilari]

To be fair, he'd have to be a miracle worker to get much more out of the extremely mediocre players available at present.

 

[nailsy]

Rush and Giggs is pushing it, surely. Even if they did play a couple of games together, it wasn't Rush or Giggs anywhere near their best.

Your probably right, my memory isn't that good that I can remember their side back then. Who are the star players for Wales now? Obviously Bale and Ramsey, but I can't think of many others?

 

[LSUY]

I think thats certainly a part of it. A lot of the teams we play use quite negative tactics against us which make the games rather boring to watch.

That's true but it isn't helped that Roy adopts similarly negative tactics. San Marino at home so we play four at the back in a wingless system. Why?

 

[goughie1966]

That's true but it isn't helped that Roy adopts similarly negative tactics. San Marino at home so we play four at the back in a wingless system. Why?

Because he's a dinosaur and doesn't know any other way to play. Which proves the result of the poll perfectly.

 

[ThorntonSpur]

its the FA that are the dinosaurs. He was at the time the perfect choice for what the FA always wants. We have seen it throughout history and how they go for the their man so to speak. IMHO when they appointed Hoddle they had finally got the right man to take England forward in approach style and attitude only for him to be sacked for his religious beliefs ( I think)

Hodgson will do what they want, qualify for the euros, lose in the last 16 or 8 if lucky and look forward to Russia where he will qualify and last 16 AGAIN.

That is where England are at no matter what collection of players we have, until we have an organisation that will adapt and is run by in intelligent football men then England will plod along.

The Sterling issue is irrelevant, what is more relevant is who plays in the u21 competition in Czech republic next year. the likes of sterling Barclay stones etc should play as its valuable experience. But they will not.

 

[Ionman34]

Crocodiles are Dinosaurs.

Crocodiles do not understand the offside trap.

Roy Hodgeson does understand the offside trap.

Therefore, Roy Hodgson is not a Dinosaur.

I now expect everyone to vote no now that this has been scientifically proven.

 

[dontcallme]

Crocodiles are Dinosaurs.

Crocodiles do not understand the offside trap.

Roy Hodgeson does understand the offside trap.

Therefore, Roy Hodgson is not a Dinosaur.

I now expect everyone to vote no now that this has been scientifically proven.

He's never been caught offside, the debate continues

 

[Ionman34]

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He's never been caught offside, the debate continues

Be serious, the fat bastard has obviously eaten every linesman that ever raised a flag against him.

Plus he's a centre half!

 

[SteveH]

The ELP has killed international football. England games are like a support band at a concert, second rate.

 

[michaelden]

well Raymond Verheijen certainly thinks so

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/oct/14/wales-raymond-verheijen-roy-hodgson-dinosaur

Verheijen, who has also worked with Barcelona, Chelsea, Manchester City and Holland, claimed on Twitter that the 67-year-old had “once again made himself look extremely stupid. He is the perfect example of a typical uneducated English coach.

“Embarrassing to see dinosaur Hodgson questioning the fitness regime of the forward-thinking manager Brendan Rodgers. Roy Hodgson’s incompetence must be frustrating for educated managers like Brendan Rodgers who travelled the world.”

Verheijen, went into precise details as to why Sterling should be treated differently. “Firstly, 19-year old players do not have a fully matured body yet so for them the game demands are higher & will develop much more fatigue,” wrote the Dutchman, who still acts as consultant for several national football associations and clubs.

“Young players who develop more fatigue during the game need longer time to get rid of this fatigue otherwise they accumulate fatigue in body.

“Secondly, Sterling is not only a young but also an explosive player. They have many fast muscle fibres compared to less explosive players.

“Fast muscle fibres recover slower compared to slow muscle fibres because less blood & oxygen is running through these fast muscle fibres.

“If explosive players do not get extra recovery time & are treated in the same way as other players, they accumulate fatigue in their body.

“Accumulation of fatigue due to insufficient recovery makes the nervous system slower. The signal from brain to muscles travel slower

“If the signal from the brain arrives later in the muscles this means the brain has less control over body during explosive football actions.

“So there’s much evidence that insufficient recovery, accumulation of fatigue & slower nervous system are dramatically increasing injury risk.”

a lot of that Dutchman's talk sounded like new age crystal healing mumbo jumbo. That's not to say I don't agree with him, its just all a bit fast twitchy for me

 

[michaelden]

The lack of respect for Hodgson is pitiful yet unsurprising. Dear old Bobby Robson suffered it too yet in hindsight he was rightly appreciated. Hodgson is as educated an Englishman in football as you are likely to get. But he's not very charismatic, old and he has a speech impediment. Therefore, people think he's an easy target. That's just bollocks.

Does he? tbf I don't watch England or Hodgson and only hear about it via the web or a paper. Is it serious or like that Maclaren idiot,and just sounds Dutch for no reason?

 

[tiger666]

Yep

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Don't know if dinosaur is the right word, but it was clear tonight that his book of tactics is pretty thin, and he's not beyond letting his team dissolve into random non-formations as matches go on. Sometimes it pays off, against smart teams it doesn't.

I think maybe the modern game has left him behind.

 

[tototoner]

Yeah , a old thread bump that doesn't make me look like a complete twat

 

[Hitch]

It's easy to say now admittedly, but I was much happier with the idea of us playing Portugal before Iceland changed things with that last second goal. Just think Hodgson is more of a small time manager who's better suited to setting up tactically against more supeior opponents. Under him we're best suited to counter attacking. Irony is I'd have fancied us to do well against France.

 

[UpTownSpur]

The ability to organise, motivate and fill players full of confidence so they can play to their full potential - these are things a manger is paid for. And Hodgson doesn't seem to be able to do any of these. He should have been sacked after the World Cup.

 

[idontgetit]

He took Dier off today which shows that despite all the hours spent scouting Spurs this season he completely missed the point about what makes us tick

 

[Danners9]

The range of attempted tactics and formations used to really no effect shows that he didn't have a proper plan coming into it. Seemed like he was lurching from desperation to desperation.

Shifting players around from their normal positions was another mistake.

Odd, really, as he's so experienced and watches these guys every week.

 

[UncleBuck]

Twenty years ago he was managing the Swiss national team against England at Wembley.
I say no more.