Is Roy Hodgson a footballing dinosaur?

[dudu]

Its not even that he is or is not a dinosaur

The man couldn't motivate anything. Been saying it since day one he is not an international manager

 

[sparx100]

He took Dier off today which shows that despite all the hours spent scouting Spurs this season he completely missed the point about what makes us tick

I called it as a substitution yesterday. I think Dier was just as bad as everyone else but he just sat too deep imo against a team we didn't need to. He needed to push up and make the mIdfield tighter and get more pressure on the opposition midfield.

 

[sparx100]

The range of attempted tactics and formations used to really no effect shows that he didn't have a proper plan coming into it. Seemed like he was lurching from desperation to desperation.

Shifting players around from their normal positions was another mistake.

Odd, really, as he's so experienced and watches these guys every week.

Agreed should not be shifting players around, I think the problem we have is that he couldn't find a formation where he could fit all the players he wanted in the team. Needed to make probably a very hard call in not playing his captain and couldn't.

 

[penfold_99]

Needed to make probably a very hard call in not playing his captain and couldn't.

couldn't agree with you more! Rooney just suffocated any speed with had in the team and then when he went forward he crowded out Kane and kane had to more to the wing to get space and just disjointed the whole team.

Woy was a idiot to say Rooney was guaranteed to start, he have form for choking at big tournaments.

 

[sparx100]

couldn't agree with you more! Rooney just suffocated any speed with had in the team and then when he went forward he crowded out Kane and kane had to more to the wing to get space and just disjointed the whole team.

Woy was a idiot to say Rooney was guaranteed to start, he have form for choking at big tournaments.

Rooney flattered to decieve a little with a good amount of passes to switch play, however a lot of said passes either didn't find their target or came to nothing bease our play generally was too slow and ponderous.

Rooney I think has a role in the squad but to play him central midfield where many a game is won and lost and to see him pulling out of challenges on countless occasions was not good.

 

[Mullers]

Its not even that he is or is not a dinosaur

The man couldn't motivate anything. Been saying it since day one he is not an international manager

If you are picked to be play for your country in the second most important international tournament, you should already be motivated.

 

[sparx100]

If you are picked to be play for your country in the second most important international tournament, you should already be motivated.

Agree to a point. I would imagine at international level you would have pride to play for your team which would get you some of the way, however good leaders can inspire teams and Hodgson i suspect is not an inspirational leader.

Think of your work life. Certainly from my experience I am more willong to put hard graft in for someone who inspires.

 

[Mullers]

Agree to a point. I would imagine at international level you would have pride to play for your team which would get you some of the way, however good leaders can inspire teams and Hodgson i suspect is not an inspirational leader.

Think of your work life. Certainly from my experience I am more willong to put hard graft in for someone who inspires.

Well you say that but he inspired Fulham enough to get them to the Europa cup final . It's difficult to inspire a squad which contain a bunch of spoilt, self entitled brats.

 

[sebo_sek]

The most important issue is that England were not a TEAM. You could feel the brotherhood within Iceland, and a bunch of individuals playing them.
And then there are the strange decisions - playing Sterling who did nothing all tournament, not playing Kane and Vardy together, playing Rooney, having Kane take freekicks and corners, using a Totttenham V and not realising that it needs an Eriksen to flourish.
England were their own downfall, but then again I have been saying for days that I see a Poland - Italy final, with Poland winning, obviously, so I hope Iceland now beat France, so Italy have an easier task of getting there, once they push Germany aside.

 

[idontgetit]

I called it as a substitution yesterday. I think Dier was just as bad as everyone else but he just sat too deep imo against a team we didn't need to. He needed to push up and make the mIdfield tighter and get more pressure on the opposition midfield.

And in doing so lost the attacking width from our two fullbacks

 

[sparx100]

And in doing so lost the attacking width from our two fullbacks

Neither Walker or Rose had great games yesterday and it wasnt down to Dier going off. Take your point completely that Dier does give them the free reign to go forward but we werent needing his role yesterday so imo was the right substitution.

The problem was our central midfield was non existent. Dier was a 3rd centre back, Rooney has not played central midfield role and did not make the space to receive the ball and just looked for long switch passes across the pitch and Alli was not bring played in a natural position.

The problem with Roy was he decided on shoe-horning players into his first 11 and not the players most suited to the formation.

 

[sparx100]

Well you say that but he inspired Fulham enough to get them to the Europa cup final . It's difficult to inspire a squad which contain a bunch of spoilt, self entitled brats.

I think that good managers bring good philosophies and bring that to their teams. They know how to drill them, how to inspire them and shape them to maximise their talent. Can't argue about Fulham at all but he had a chance to work with the players day in and day out to get his philosophy across.

The players let themselves down but I can bet you that they would play better for a manager who plays the players who deserved to play based on form and position rather than on reputation and putting round pegs into square holes.

 

[nedley]

Horrific manager.

 

[mightyspur]

Standard England manager approach. Pick who he assumes are the best players, rather than the best team. I thought Roy was changing that after the world cup and he started picking younger players, but that all went out the window. Players looked lost as to what they were supposed to be doing. Movement was non-existent. A very very strange performance

 

[King of Otters]

The bloke is a fucking joke. A walking ball-bag, utterly out of his depth.

And to think he's been allowed to lead us to abject failure at three successive major tournaments! The entire FA top brass, including that scrounging toff **** William, should resign for allowing this to happen.

 

[Mullers]

I think that good managers bring good philosophies and bring that to their teams. They know how to drill them, how to inspire them and shape them to maximise their talent. Can't argue about Fulham at all but he had a chance to work with the players day in and day out to get his philosophy across.

The players let themselves down but I can bet you that they would play better for a manager who plays the players who deserved to play based on form and position rather than on reputation and putting round pegs into square holes.

I think you touched upon the main problem, the amount of time to work with the players. He has certainly made mistakes and ultimately must be take the blame for Englands failure but I don't feel that he is a bad manager.

 

[tiger666]

I think you touched upon the main problem, the amount of time to work with the players. He has certainly made mistakes and ultimately must be take the blame for Englands failure but I don't feel that he is a bad manager.

I assume he has the same amount of time with his players as other international managers. Look at how well Italy works as a team, their manager understands tactics.

 

[dudu]

If you are picked to be play for your country in the second most important international tournament, you should already be motivated.

That's not the point and I think you know it's not.

 

[sparx100]

I think you touched upon the main problem, the amount of time to work with the players. He has certainly made mistakes and ultimately must be take the blame for Englands failure but I don't feel that he is a bad manager.

Manager is probably the wrong term for an international manager. Coach might be more apt as that is what they should do in the time they have with the international team. I don't think he is a bad manager albeit his Liverpool tenure was atrocious but perhaps as a coach he needed better staff than ray lewington and gary neville to help get his ideas across.

 

[WalkerboyUK]

couldn't agree with you more! Rooney just suffocated any speed with had in the team and then when he went forward he crowded out Kane and kane had to more to the wing to get space and just disjointed the whole team.

Woy was a idiot to say Rooney was guaranteed to start, he have form for choking at big tournaments.

Commentator said that Rooney was yelling at the England players to move the ball quicker.
However, he specifically was the one completely slowing the tempo of the game and making basic passing mistakes!