Is this why Greaves and Perryman aren't in the hall of fame?

[Mr-T]

Everyone should agree that our hall of fame aint really worth a streak of piss unless it includes Jimmy Greaves, our record goalscorer, and Steve Perryman, record for appearances.

The whispers were that Greavesy didn't want to do it but his motives were unclear - here is a possible explaination of why no Jimmy and Stevie...

http://www.spurs.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=7500167

 

[AdelaideSpur]

Football is about money first, money second and money third.
Here in Australia the biggest sport is AFL, the league has set up a fund to help old players to do courses and gain employment as they used to be very poorly paid. Does the same thing happen with football? or are they jst cast to the wind?

 

[Jamturk]

Disgusting innit, Now some people on here can see where some of our money comes from, happy now.

I loved football once
when it was a game

 

[garyhopkins]

If Greavsie and Perryman aren't in the Hall of Fame simply because Spurs won't allocate profits from the event to charity or former players in hard times then its another damning indictment of the Levy era. I like Levy and the way he has made us economically stable but you would think that he could see further than the bottom line when it comes to the Hall of Fame. Keith Burkinshaw's "There used to be a football club there" becomes more relevant by the year. It is very sad that these two are not in the Hall of Fame; but if this reasoning is true then I applaud them for standing up to 'our' company....

 

[johnmc]

It is very hard to take when you find out the club are behaving so shabilly. :-|

 

[bomberH]

Not everyone is still working with the club. Waddle isn't and he's being inducted next week. On one hand, they should see it as an honour, on the other hand, they're right to have a pop. It's sort of like a testimonial and the profit should be handled the same way. But i'd bet we're not the only club that goes down this route. That's footie nowadays for ya.

 

[thfcsteff]

...of course, what about the Tottenham Trust?
They've done a lot for some of our former players who perhaps aren't as fortunate and need some help...
I wonder if any of the Hall of Fame money goes to the Trust...I'll enquire...

 

[bill]

Is anyone going to go to any of the remaining nights?

 

[arnoldlayne]

Football is about money first, money second and money third.
Here in Australia the biggest sport is AFL, the league has set up a fund to help old players to do courses and gain employment as they used to be very poorly paid. Does the same thing happen with football? or are they jst cast to the wind?

The thing is, Premier league clubs have very little money to spare and can only play their players a pittance. :bs:

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I know that Greaves and Perryman - and no two players deserve the honour more than these two - might not have benefitted from the massive salaries of today but as prominant footballers of their era they were earning very healthy wages compared to joe public, whilst also enjoying fame and adulation.

Spurs as club and company do contribute heavily to charitable projects in the local community and in places like Africa.

I love those two players but find it a bit disapointing that they feel the need to slag the club off fro just trying to earn a buck, whilst at the same time honouring the past servants (most of whom were very well remunerated, and worshipped thanks to their involvement in the football business & spurs in particular). I'm also pretty sure Steve Perryman would have had a testimonial. Maybe Greaves was just a tad miffed that all he was getting was a decanter, genuine adulation of those paying handsomely to attend and pay tribute and the club's attempt to preserve their memory as oposed to a big fat slice of the proceeds.

Yes it's a litle earner, but are they going to be worse off for it ? A nice dinner, a warm glow of adulation and somewhere to keep your whisky. It's a hard life eh.

Fucking shame really.

 

[Houdini]

Hall of fame or Legend...........you decide!

 

[doubledecker]

I know that Greaves and Perryman - and no two players deserve the honour more than these two - might not have benefitted from the massive salaries of today but as prominant footballers of their era they were earning very healthy wages compared to joe public, whilst also enjoying fame and adulation.

Spurs as club and company do contribute heavily to charitable projects in the local community and in places like Africa.

I love those two players but find it a bit disapointing that they feel the need to slag the club off fro just trying to earn a buck, whilst at the same time honouring the past servants (most of whom were very well remunerated, and worshipped thanks to their involvement in the football business & spurs in particular). I'm also pretty sure Steve Perryman would have had a testimonial. Maybe Greaves was just a tad miffed that all he was getting was a decanter, genuine adulation of those paying handsomely to attend and pay tribute and the club's attempt to preserve their memory as oposed to a big fat slice of the proceeds.

Yes it's a litle earner, but are they going to be worse off for it ? A nice dinner, a warm glow of adulation and somewhere to keep your whisky. It's a hard life eh.

Fucking shame really.

Shame, but

I seem to remember Jimmy had a testimonial after he had left us for Spam against AC Milan and a sold out crowd. I am sure the club could have done more for him especially during his alcoholic years. But to be honest I think the best thing the club could do with the profits from these events would be to donate them to charity. Then it would be interesting to see if Jimmy and Steve would show up .

 

[Bill_Oddie]

Quite surprised by this but it sounds like it's a genuine enough principle, it just happens to make the club a bit of cash. Possibly not even that much when you realise the staffing, marketing, catering and so forth behind it. And that decanter isn't going to just be in tupperware or something. It's probably worth a mint. And an actual worthy/appropriate/sentimental gift, seeing what it represents.

It's only sad because they were so talented, gave so much and are now relatively not so well off. Although when you're paid Christ knows how much for newspaper columns and can command 2-3,000 quid a night or more to get drunk and tell stories, you're not poor.

All that said, I hope the club change their policy to make a significant donation out of any proceeds to the charity of the player's choice. And that this is sufficient for Greavesy and Stevie P to accept the invitation to the HoF.

 

[roosh]

something needs to be done though to ensure that they are inducted.

 

[Houdini]

I agree they should be in there, no doubt at all, but i disagree with the club making it a money making exercise, and making money out of ex employees (who do not share in the profits) is a thorn that will, understandably, stick in the paw of many fans and supporters likewise!
If Greavsie and Perryman are going to help generate revenue for the club, then they should be paid for doing so, would Levy or any of the organisers do all of this for a decanter or a bunch of flowers and a card?......i don't think this is down to a case of being purely mercenary, as far as Greaves and Perryman are concerned, it is principles, fair play and respect that should be addressed here!

 

[stevenqoz]

One of the offshoots of the Sugar / Venables dispute was that Venables name was taken off the Board of Fame in the Spurs foyer...this board showed all the Spurs players who had received international recognition and Venables, of course, represented England at all levels.

 

[SpurSince57]

Disgusting innit, Now some people on here can see where some of our money comes from, happy now.

I loved football once
when it was a game

You think things were so much better in the 60s? Dream on. It stopped being 'just a game' for the club the day we turned professional. 'Just a game' is what we play (or used to play) on a Sunday morning.

In fact Spurs do a hell of a lot more for charities and the local community under ENIC than they ever did before. Sugar's attitude to the comminity was basically that it could do one.

 

[stevenqoz]

Just another point on how things are sometimes not quite what they seem.....apparently Matt Busby had control of Man Utd merchandising and the profits it generated throughout the sixties and seventies....hard to believe now considering what a great income generator it became....for quite a while Man Utd obviously were not 'professional' enough to recognise such a money spinnerEek

 

[14/04/91]

I'm 99% certain that the profits from Hall of Fame dinners DO go to the Tottenham Trust; this was publicised when the induction was first announced.

 

[johnmc]

Not a very high priority in the grand scheme of things, but surely an open compromise could or should be reached. A little bit of bridge building, on both sides would not go amiss. As has been said Spurs do their bit to charities. It is not nice hearing negatives.